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Boston-Maine Adds Flights To TTN, ELM, BWI, & EWB  
User currently offlineKarlB737 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3264 posts, RR: 9
Posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 5014 times:

Courtesy: Elmira Star-Gazette

Pan Am Clipper Coming To Airport
Flights to Boston, D.C.-area and NYC to be offered twice daily.

http://www.star-gazette.com/apps/pbc...ID=/20060801/NEWS01/608010324/1001

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Courtesy: WETM-TV

New Airline Lands In Chemung County

http://www.wetmtv.com/news/local/sto...CF38EC-8B2B-423D-A338-1814118C07AD

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User currently offlineScottB From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 7346 posts, RR: 30
Reply 1, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 4996 times:

From the airline's website, it appears that the flights actually go to Bedford (BED) instead of New Bedford (EWB). I certainly cannot see much of any demand for two daily BED-ELM flights, though.

User currently offlineBatonOps From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 765 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4951 times:

Interesting... I bet the service doesn't last six months. I really doubt that ELM will see nonstop service to Florida.

I wonder why they picked ELM and not ITH or BGM? ITH could really use another airline.


User currently offlineNkops From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2839 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4903 times:

"Santulli says starting in the fall, Pam Am Clipper hopes to be able to offer flights to both Tampa and Orlando, but those flights have not been finalized yet."


Substitute ACY for ELM and you have the same exact promises they made 8 months before they pulled out... sorry ELM, but don't get too excited



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User currently offlineBatonOps From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 765 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4881 times:

Quoting Nkops (Reply 3):
Substitute ACY for ELM and you have the same exact promises they made 8 months before they pulled out... sorry ELM, but don't get too excited

I agree. How many other cities have had promise of Florida service and Pan Am has just disappeared.

Maybe the Jetstream service will work...who knows.


User currently offlineStirling From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 3943 posts, RR: 19
Reply 5, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 4834 times:

From the link:

Quote:
Starting next month, you'll be able to fly to more big cities from the Elmira-Corning Regional Airport. Pan Am Clipper is setting up shop there.

Big Cities?

It has been 2 years since I've been to Trenton and New Bedford.....how big have they gotten?

So I am to assume the Northeast flights will be Jetstreams and the planned Florida flights to be via 727?
14/32 is 6600' long....should be enough....but something tells me it is cutting it very close.
I know Allegheny brought the BAC 1-11 and DC-9-30 into ITH, but they never went any farther than UCA, ELM, DCA, LGA, and PIT, so a 727 with enough fuel to make it to Florida seems iffy with 6600'.



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User currently offlineBillReid From Netherlands, joined Jun 2006, 1144 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 4826 times:

this has been the modus operendii for Pan Am for about 8 years. Announce, drain and bail.

The airline generally serves railroad cities because David Fink the President is former rail employee and he only flies to railroad cities.



Some people don't get it. Business is about making MONEY!
User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 4825 times:

Quoting BatonOps (Reply 2):
I bet the service doesn't last six months.

Surprisingly, they've lasted in ATL longer than I thought they would. They currently offer several times a week service to SFB (Have been doing this service since February) and UTA (Tunica, MS). I'm honestly surprised that DL hasn't started competing service to UTA using a DL Connection carrier.


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 34345 posts, RR: 70
Reply 8, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 4652 times:

Quoting Srbmod (Reply 7):
Surprisingly, they've lasted in ATL longer than I thought they would. They currently offer several times a week service to SFB (Have been doing this service since February) and UTA (Tunica, MS). I'm honestly surprised that DL hasn't started competing service to UTA using a DL Connection carrier.

The Atlanta service is well subsdizied to Tunica, so that isn't that surprising. The Orlando flight is because they need to position the plane into Tunica, so they might as well sell seats.



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User currently offlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4948 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 4649 times:

Whats the chance they will pull these flights like they did with their proposed IAD and PIT service before they even start? If they want to expand, shouldn't they return to those plans. BED-IAD makes more sense than BED-ELM


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User currently offlineINTENSS From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 317 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 4507 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 8):
The Orlando flight is because they need to position the plane into Tunica, so they might as well sell seats.

Except for the fact that the Sanford-Atlanta flights preceded the Tunica flights by a couple of months. The flight is also run in conjunction with Vacation Express into their "hub" in Sanford.


Rich

[Edited 2006-08-02 18:01:10]

User currently offlineBigOrange From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 2408 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 4450 times:

Travelers will be able to get into New York City by a train from Trenton, Santulli said, noting that is faster than landing in Newark. "It's very quick and very efficient," he said. "I've met people that use it. They say it's great."

What BS!!

The train from Trenton is going to take a lot longer than it does from Newark. They have to get from the airport to downtown Trenton first, and I don't know of any bus service from TTN, unless they go into Ewing or West Trenton first.

And to advertise TTN service as NYC seems to be as much of a stretch as Ryanair advertising Hahn as Frankfurt!


User currently offlineBatonOps From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 765 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4405 times:

Quoting Stirling (Reply 5):
So I am to assume the Northeast flights will be Jetstreams and the planned Florida flights to be via 727?
14/32 is 6600' long....should be enough....but something tells me it is cutting it very close.

14/32 is the runway at ITH and is 6600'. ELM has 6/24 at 7000' and 10/28 at 5402'.

I believe ITH could support the Jetstream service but not 727 to Florida.


User currently offlineAccess-Air From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1942 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 4267 times:

Quoting BatonOps (Reply 12):
I believe ITH could support the Jetstream service but not 727 to Florida.

Listen,

If United Airlines could fly the lower powered 727-200s into Moline, Illinois on a daily basis for years with only a 6500 foot runway with a field elevatiom of near 700 above sea level...I am quite sure that Ithaca NY unless weight restrictions on runway loading prohibit it.....a 727-200 with more powerful engines could be utilized.

Access-Aiir



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User currently offlineBatonOps From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 765 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 4183 times:

A 727 at ITH would be a nice sight. I miss the days of F28's, DC-9's, and BAC 1-11's.

[Edited 2006-08-04 00:11:57]

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