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Window Arrangement on KLM 744

LawrenceMck From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2005, 311 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1487 times:

Sorry if this is the wrong forum guys, but I was wondering if you could help me out.
How come on the 744 below, there is a large gap between door's 1 & 2 with no windows?

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AirKas1 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2003, 3332 posts, RR: 62
Reply 1, posted (3 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1475 times:

Galley?

The message you were about to post is too short and probably not of any higher value to the topic at hand. You should think long and hard before posting a message in this forum and make it detailed and a valuable addition to the topic discussed.

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WestWing From United States, joined Feb 2005, 1502 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (3 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 1462 times:

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Andrej From United Kingdom (England), joined Jun 2001, 710 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (3 years 3 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 1311 times:

Lawrence,

AirKas1 is right. KLM decided to put galley there. Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe that even thier B747-200's had their galley located in similar location.

Also I believe that this is still part of Business Class. Right? confused

Cheers,
Andrej

MauriceB From Aruba, joined Aug 2004, 2142 posts, RR: 38
Reply 4, posted (3 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 1289 times:

The galley is there, but only on the right side, on the other site there isn't a galley but just window's and seats ... and no it isn't a part of the business class, since thats on the upperdeck.

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Mdutch From Netherlands, joined Nov 2003, 131 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (3 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1230 times:

The galley is used in part for Business Class and in part for Economy Class. Yes, the upperdeck is C Class but also the front of the a/c which has 18 seats.

HB-IWC From Greece, joined Sep 2000, 3907 posts, RR: 78
Reply 6, posted (3 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1124 times:

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Quoting MauriceB (Reply 4):
The galley is there, but only on the right side, on the other site there isn't a galley but just window's and seats ... and no it isn't a part of the business class, since thats on the upperdeck.

To the left of the galley is the first economy section, which starts at row 09 and is used to preseat KLM's elite frequent flyers. The section is configured in a 3-2 layout and features some of the quietest Y-seats in the plane. Until a couple of years ago that section was used for World Business Class as well, but KLM has since reduced its C-class offerings to include only one main deck section apart from the upperdeck.

Vunz From Netherlands, joined Jun 2001, 360 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (3 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1042 times:

Quoting WestWing (Reply 2):
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Hotje From Netherlands, joined Jul 2004, 112 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (3 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 985 times:

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Here's a pic. It's an excellent rest area for the cabin crew, but I regard this galley as way to big. It's situated in the area of the aircraft where you'd usually put the high revenue seats. ie business class or premium economy seats (which KLM do not have).

The little cabin on the other side between door 1 and 2 is an excellent place to travel though.

EHHO From Germany, joined Dec 2005, 815 posts, RR: 10
Reply 9, posted (3 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 933 times:

Quoting MauriceB (Reply 4):
The galley is there, but only on the right side

Quoting Hotje (Reply 8):
but I regard this galley as way to big

It is indeed a strange place for a galley, even though the upside is that great Y cabin in the front. I believe the only other company that has/had such 747s is TG.

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HB-IWC From Greece, joined Sep 2000, 3907 posts, RR: 78
Reply 10, posted (3 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 873 times:

Quoting EHHO (Reply 9):
It is indeed a strange place for a galley, even though the upside is that great Y cabin in the front. I believe the only other company that has/had such 747s is TG.

While this galley lay out is not the most common, there are more airlines than just KLM and TG which opted for this configuration. Garuda's 3 B744s are configured like this as were Sabena's B743s.

B742 From Spain, joined Mar 2005, 3708 posts, RR: 24
Reply 11, posted (3 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 782 times:

Can someone tell me where the other options for a galley other than KLM/TG's side version?

I know that MH has a galley in 2/3rd's of the way down the aircraft (744), is the mainly used config with airlines?

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LawrenceMck From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2005, 311 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (3 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 736 times:

Hey thanks for all your feedback guys! Very helpful.

Lawrence Smile

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SK A340 From Sweden, joined Mar 2000, 838 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (3 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 659 times:

Why would you put a galley in that position and "get rid of" a lot of window seats?

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BOAC911 From United States, joined Sep 2004, 340 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (3 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 513 times:

FYI, Pan Am's 747SP had a similar configuration.

AC320tech From Canada, joined Jul 2006, 197 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (3 years 3 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 403 times:

Quoting Andrej (Reply 3):
believe that even thier B747-200's had their galley located in similar location.

The -300's and -200SUD's had the same config as this one.

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