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Finnair Expansion In Germany  
User currently offlineBeaucaire From Syria, joined Sep 2003, 5252 posts, RR: 25
Posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 3739 times:

Finnair published a press-relaese several weeks go ,advising their intention to add HAJ,BRE and NUE to their list of destinations in Germany.
Has anyone details about the type of aircraft that would be used and as of when the new connections would be flown?


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User currently offlineKilljoy From Finland, joined Dec 1999, 646 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 3512 times:

I can't recall seeing such a press release, but most new routes have been opened with the E170.

User currently offlineBeaucaire From Syria, joined Sep 2003, 5252 posts, RR: 25
Reply 2, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 3481 times:

http://www.stern.de/wirtschaft/unter...hr-Finnair-Not-Tugend-/565540.html


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User currently offlineFunFlying From Finland, joined Jul 2001, 189 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 3457 times:

Finnair has announced new flights to Lisbon and Ljubljana in the past two weeks and today Bucharest became the newest destination for next summer. New Embraers keep coming, and I suppose we will see more new destinations in the near future...


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User currently offlineTriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4696 posts, RR: 42
Reply 4, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 3438 times:

Most likely ERJ4 or ERJ7.


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User currently offlineHT From Germany, joined May 2005, 6525 posts, RR: 23
Reply 5, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 3384 times:

Quoting Beaucaire (Thread starter):
Finnair published a press-relaese several weeks go ,advising their intention to add HAJ,BRE and NUE to their list of destinations in Germany.

HAJ and NUE I can see, but I doubt that BRE will generate enough traffic, especially with HAM and HAJ being rather close by.
-HT



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User currently offlineJohnnybgoode From Germany, joined Jan 2001, 2187 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 3207 times:

perhaps those are flights catering for leisure pax, mainly operating on the week-end when a/c utilization is low? perhaps also in co-operation with a tour operator???

sorry, can't think of other reasons for AY to serve this cities...



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User currently offlineHT From Germany, joined May 2005, 6525 posts, RR: 23
Reply 7, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 3182 times:

Quoting Johnnybgoode (Reply 6):
perhaps those are flights catering for leisure pax, mainly operating on the week-end when a/c utilization is low? perhaps also in co-operation with a tour operator???

sorry, can't think of other reasons for AY to serve this cities...

IMO, just feeding AY's hub probably especially for their intensive ops to SE-asia.
It was mentioned in another thread recently, that Thailand is a very popular destination among Finnish people during winter ...
-HT



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User currently offlineJohnnybgoode From Germany, joined Jan 2001, 2187 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 3174 times:

Quoting HT (Reply 7):
IMO, just feeding AY's hub probably especially for their intensive ops to SE-asia.

this feed will certainly help the hub flights, no doubt about it, but HAJ, NUE and BRE are not major markets. my guess is, and that's just my 2 cents, the share of connecting passengers will be low... but let's wait and see, who knows, they haven't even published those flights yet...

Quoting HT (Reply 7):
It was mentioned in another thread recently, that Thailand is a very popular destination among Finnish people during winter ...

yes, and they live in Finland, not that many live in HAJ, NUE, and BRE  Wink just pulling a prank here, please forgive me!

btw, what does HT in your name stand for? i always think of Phuket, but I miss the K inbetween the two letters!

cheers
daniel



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User currently offlineBeaucaire From Syria, joined Sep 2003, 5252 posts, RR: 25
Reply 9, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 3171 times:

HAJ and NUE have large export oriented industries with relatively large number of Asian travel.Main target will be transit passengers .
Don't know so much about BRE..



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User currently offlineHT From Germany, joined May 2005, 6525 posts, RR: 23
Reply 10, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 3145 times:

Quoting Beaucaire (Reply 9):
HAJ and NUE have large export oriented industries with relatively large number of Asian travel.Main target will be transit passengers .

In case the feeder flights out of HAJ and NUE are being operated by something bigger than a RJ, "Freight" might also be a factor to be taken into account.

Quoting Johnnybgoode (Reply 8):
my guess is, and that's just my 2 cents, the share of connecting passengers will be low...

I concurr with Beuacaire here that O&D between HAJ/NUE/BRE and HEL currently is that low, that it very probably will not justify nonstop flights.
For example HLX's service HAJ to ARN (which should be an at least equally important destination) appear to be not too heavily booked (my interpretation of the fact that fares usually are low to midrange for this route)  twocents 

Quoting Johnnybgoode (Reply 8):
btw, what does HT in your name stand for?

Initials (lame, isn't it, but the username I initially wanted to use was blocked due to my own stupidity ...)-HT



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User currently offlineAndaman From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 3018 times:

Quoting HT (Reply 7):
IMO, just feeding AY's hub probably especially for their intensive ops to SE-asia.

Exactly, feeding HEL is the main purpose. The Embraers are handling more and more of this traffic, they get their 8th E170 and by the autumn 2007 they will have 16 new Embraer family planes, ten are 76-seat Embraer 170s and six are larger 190s.


User currently offlineConnector4you From Canada, joined May 2001, 933 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2942 times:

Quoting FunFlying (Reply 3):
today Bucharest became the newest destination for next summer

Maybe I'm wrong but I remember that Bucharest was served in the past (until late '70 ??) by Finnair. So I think this is in fact a resumption of service rather than a new destination. Can anyone with more info back me up on this?

Other than Cimber's little CRJ out of Copenhagen, no other direct non-stop scheduled flights between Romania and Scandinavia as we speak. Good choice I would think!


User currently offlineDavidT From Switzerland, joined Oct 2005, 477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 2879 times:

Quoting TriStar500 (Reply 4):
Most likely ERJ4 or ERJ7.

Finnair only have E170s (and, soon a couple of 190s I think).


User currently offlineSteph001 From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 315 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2835 times:

Quoting Connector4you (Reply 12):
Other than Cimber's little CRJ out of Copenhagen, no other direct non-stop scheduled flights between Romania and Scandinavia as we speak. Good choice I would think!

A very good choice indeed Smile. Snce Tarom axed the PEK service, the only choice of flying to Asia is via western Europe, which is very constly (although EK is advertising a similar service now). I guess the new Finnair services are basically intended for the people traveling to Asia. It's quite inconvenient to fly first to some hub in western Europe and then to Asia when you come from central and eastern Europe.


User currently offlineFinnWings From Finland, joined Oct 2003, 640 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2747 times:

Quoting DavidT (Reply 13):
Finnair only have E170s (and, soon a couple of 190s I think).

You are correct that Finnair doesn't have any ER4s. However, Finncomm Airlines flies some flights to Germany and Oslo which are already code-shared flights with Finnair and they have a very close cooperation. They also have a lot of domestic flights providing at the same time feeder traffic for Finnair. The fleet of Finncomm is growing, at the moment they have 2 ERJ-145s, 2 ATR42-500s and firm order for further 7 ATR72-500s and 2 ATR42-500s.

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