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The First Qantas 707 Coming Home  
User currently offlineDuke From Canada, joined Sep 1999, 1155 posts, RR: 2
Posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 6903 times:

Just in on www.airlinerlist.com - a brief note that Boeing 707 s/n 17696/29, ex-VH-EBA and HZ-123 (now VH-XBA), Qantas' first 707 (and also the first built707-100 short body), now stored at Southend, England, is to be flown to the Longreach museum in Australia late this year. This is good news for preservation. This plane, the same as John Travolta's jet N707JT (that one is the LAST built 707-100 short body), is very old and the first of a kind.

Now, could someone confirm this news? Is there any way of determining on which day the plane would be flying back? Could Prague be on the flightpath?

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User currently offlineBBJII From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 850 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 6867 times:

QF Engineers ahve been at SEN for sometime now.

Not sure when they leaving though.

But I do know that they will need to fly to anothe UK airport for fuel, as they can't take alot and get airbourne from SEN.

Let's hope it operate's:
SEN-LHR Ferry
LHR-SYD full passenger service.... rotfl  might be nicer the a 744.

I'd say they're gonna need a few fuel stops.


 wave 



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User currently offlineSimes From Australia, joined May 2005, 39 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 6855 times:

Sweet, will they park it alongside VH EBQ???

User currently offlineDuke From Canada, joined Sep 1999, 1155 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 6850 times:

I would imagine it will be alongside VH-EBQ. I think they're planning to or considering putting up a rain shield or something above the 707 at least.

User currently offlineDAYflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3807 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 6825 times:

Good news indeed. I wish there were other great, old aircraft like this that went to preservation here in the USA.


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User currently offlineLitz From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1773 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 6629 times:
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Quoting DAYflyer (Reply 4):
I wish there were other great, old aircraft like this that went to preservation here in the USA.

It's not quite the same vintage, but Delta donated the Spirit of Delta (a 767-200) to the Delta Heritage Museum ...

AFAIK, that would be the only 767, of any type, preserved in a museum.

The rest (those that have retired) have either become freighters, or beer cans.

- litz

[Edited 2006-08-04 17:35:50]

User currently offlineCV990 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 6537 times:

Hi!

For me the most interesting fact about this is that one of the most rarest versions of the 707 ( the rarest for me is of course the 200 model ordered by Braniff...), the 138 already have two airplanes preserved!!!!
Regards


User currently offlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6428 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 6484 times:

Speaking of 707 preservation (and rare 707 variants  Smile )...are there any Conway-powered variants preserved somewhere in the world?

Pardon my ignorance in this matter,

Brent



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User currently offlineCV990 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 6408 times:

Hi!

Until recently there were 2 Boeing 707-400 preserved:

G-APFJ - 707-436 at Cosford


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D-ABOD - 707-430 at Hamburg


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I read that G-APFJ was going to be scrapped and only the cockpit section would remain! If that goes on only the german 707 will be fully preserved!
Regards


User currently offlineDuke From Canada, joined Sep 1999, 1155 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 6189 times:

Very unfortunately, the Cosford 707-436 has been scrapped already (as has their Trident, the only really intact Trident 1C in existence, horrible).

Beside the Hamburg one, there is actually another 707-400 preserved at a German airport. It is an ex-El Al machine that was painted to look, I think, like Lufthansa's D-ABOC.

So the two German ones are the only intact, preserved 707-400s now. There is a derelict ex-British Airtours one somewhere in Africa, rotting in the open.


User currently offlineFanofjets From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 2000 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks ago) and read 5993 times:

Here are some pictures of the 707-436, derelict at Entebbe, Uganda, since 1981:

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User currently offlineStarGoldLHR From Heard and McDonald Islands, joined Feb 2004, 1529 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 5871 times:

Any ideas when this will fly from Southend ?


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User currently offlineMIAMIx707 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 5638 times:

A 707 with a Caravelle behind in a recent pic? That is not possible! and in Alitalia titles no less.

That Hamburg 707 looks beautiful. Wow.

Quoting DAYflyer (Reply 4):
Good news indeed. I wish there were other great, old aircraft like this that went to preservation here in the USA.

Here in the US the money instead would go to put more patrol around airpots to kick spotters out lol. Why preserve these things if they are illegal to watch? I'm surprised the Dash 80 escaped the boneyard!

Quoting Duke (Reply 9):
Very unfortunately, the Cosford 707-436 has been scrapped already (as has their Trident, the only really intact Trident 1C in existence, horrible).

And what the heck are they using the scrap metal for? With all the ugly military crap that is preserved today, why would't they want to preserve such historic machines?

If it was here in the US it would be understandable. They'd probably use the scrap metal to build NO PARKING! signs all around the airport, expecially in spots where one can relax and watch aircraft land.


User currently offlineNeptunescar From Maldives, joined Dec 2003, 104 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 5487 times:

Ive seen the 707 and Caravelle at Entebbe.... a guard said that Idi Amin's staff at some embassy tried to start an airline in Uganda with these aircraft.... can this be confirmed by anyone??


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User currently offlineTSV From Australia, joined Nov 1999, 1641 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 5355 times:

Quoting Duke (Reply 3):
rain

In Longreach? I'm sure most people in Longreach would nominate that one for "Joke of Year".



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User currently offlineMilesrich From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2009 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 5194 times:

What happened to the 707-436 that was in the museum in downtown Philadelphia?

User currently offlineDuke From Canada, joined Sep 1999, 1155 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 5077 times:

The Philadelphia 707-436 has been scrapped. Here is someones comment from another forum, also in a discussion about the Qantas jet:

PaperTiger27th January 2006, 18:53
There used to be another ex BOAC/British Airtours -436 at a technical college in Philadelphia - does that still exist?That was 'PFN and it was scrapped in 1988 due to "lack of space".


User currently offlineBennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7747 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 5062 times:

According to Jet Airliner Production List it was G-APFP in 10/1988, G-APFN was scrapped at Kingman in 7/1979.

User currently offlineMIAMIx707 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 4913 times:

What really made me mad was when they scrapped the rare 720 (ex Belize Airways) @ Baker Aviation School right across Miami Intl. Airport  Smile

User currently offlineLitz From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1773 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 4877 times:
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Quoting MIAMIx707 (Reply 12):
I'm surprised the Dash 80 escaped the boneyard!

Boeing has a history of preserving its historic aircraft. MD and Lockheed much less so.

As for airliners, I'm not sure there's an actual airliner in a museum in this country other than Ship 102 @ Delta, and the various Concordes spread here and there.

Boeing's planes are all prototypes of some sort or another, and I'm not sure any have ever actually been "in-service" passenger aircraft.

(even Ship 102 has its own historic connections; in addition to being the employee-bought 767 for the airline, it was also part of the 767 flight testing; it first entered service - and is still listed on the FAA website - with an experimental certificate)

- litz


User currently offlineDuke From Canada, joined Sep 1999, 1155 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4731 times:

Yeah, the Baker school's 720 being scrapped is a big pity. Except maybe for some derelict or training aircraft in Korea, or something similar, it was about the last intact representative of the original JT3C-powered, no-monopole antenna United Airlines batch of 720s (United was the first 720 customer). A real pity.

User currently onlineA340Spotter From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1981 posts, RR: 23
Reply 21, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4715 times:

Litz,

At the Museum of Flight, there's an American 727-200 amongst the prototypes and the Concorde so at least one was in service in their collection.

JSD



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User currently offlineLindy Field From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 3129 posts, RR: 14
Reply 22, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 4695 times:
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I have compiled an album of preserved civil airliners from around the world. I would welcome any suggestions for additions to the album or information about aircraft that have since been repainted or scrapped.

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User currently offlineBennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7747 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 4670 times:

How about the following;

Other Concordes, (Yovielton, East Fortune, Duxford, Filton etc)

Aircraft at the Science Museum in Wroughton, (Trident, Comet etc)

Other aircraft at Manchester, (Trident, DC10)

The Belfast at Southend

G-AVMO and G-APFJ at Cosford were scrapped this year. Now only nose sections at East Fortune

A great selection of pictures.


User currently offlineLindy Field From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 3129 posts, RR: 14
Reply 24, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 4554 times:
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Hello Bennett123,

Thanks for the suggestions. I've added a few images to the album but not all of the ones you suggested if they were essentially duplicates of the types already in the album (i.e. the Concordes), just noses or sections of aircraft (the DC-10 at MAN), possibly going to re-enter service (the Belfast), or if the photos on a.net didn't really show the aircraft in full (the aircraft at Wroughton). When the MAN Trident and the Brooklands Concorde are fully repainted, I'll add them, along with the Qantas 707 that this thread is supposed to be about.

Regards,

Edward


25 StarGoldLHR : How about pictures from Monino.. the biggest and best air musuem in Russia... not one image.
26 707lvr : Okay if I reminisce a little bit? The first 707 I ever saw was at dawn on Nov 1, 1959 at HNL and it was Qantas sitting in exactly that position (a.net
27 StarGoldLHR : Anyone have any ideas when this move is immienent ? This would be a great last chance to see a 707 fly in the UK
28 Revelation : As for preserved 707s, what about the specially built 707 (VC-137B) that served as Air Force One, presently at the Museum of Science in Seattle? And i
29 Airfoilsguy : There is one in Dayton Ohio along with a bunch of other pervious Air Force Ones
30 Duke : In fact, there are three Air Force One 707 (VC-137)s of the USAF preserved. One is Eisenhower's 707-153B at the Museum of Flight (Science???) in Seatt
31 Post contains links Revelation : The Museum of Flight, Seattle, does have a Kennedy-era 707 Air Force One (VC-137B): click here for details. It is on loan from the USAF Museum, Dayto
32 Duke : I checked my records this morning, the second of the three 707-153 Air Force Ones is also preserved, at the Pima Air Museum. That means 4 out of 5 707
33 Duke : This morning I sat down and extracted the earliest 707s produced from my production list. Let's see their fates, by serial number (look at the number
34 Post contains links Duke : An update from www.airlinerlist.com - the latest news is that VH-XBA should fly to Seattle in October. It should be re-painted and further serviced, a
35 57AZ : Technically, all of the USAF VC-137s remain Property of the USAF regardless of their present location unless the service deaccessions the aircraft. To
36 MD11Engineer : There is one more parked in TXL, Berlin (IIRC it used to be 4X-ATB). It was originally owned by El Al, then Arkia. Later it was bought up by Boeing f
37 Post contains links and images Duke : Hmm, wonder in what condition the Berlin plane is. It's a pity if it will not survive intact. Here is a fresh picture of -XBA apparently in the proces
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