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User currently offlineAseem From India, joined Feb 2005, 2046 posts, RR: 10
Posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 3985 times:

although this news article was mentioned in Indian Aviation Thread 26, considering the nature of the news and its far reaching implication, I feel it needs a seperate thread.

Quote:
Foreign destinations not far
MUMBAI, AUG 3 : The dream of new Indian carriers to fly to foreign destinations may soon be fulfilled. The current stipulation of completing five years of domestic operations before a carrier can be allowed to operate on international routes may be relaxed, according to ministry of civil aviation sources. The ministry is planning to relax the clause by reducing the timeframe to three years.

The existing clause states that only domestic carriers with a fleet of a minimum 20 aircraft and operating in the domestic sector for five years will be allowed to fly on foreign routes. The policy was originally formed as a measure to check the capability of domestic carriers before they fly internally. However, industry analysts feel the measure is taken to safeguard the interest of state-run carriers Air-India and Indian Airlines. An A-I executive confirmed, “If all private carriers are allowed to fly overseas then it will hit our revenue.”

However, new entrants are experimenting novel ways to fly to foreign destinations even as the stipulation remains unchanged. Vijay Mallya-promoted Kingfisher Airlines has floated a subsidiary named Kingfisher Airline Inc in the US to operate flights from US to India. This company is owned 75% by Mallya. Kingfisher Airlines recently placed an order for the ultra long-haul A340-500, capable of flying non-stop from India to the US. This recent order begins the countdown to the imminent commencement of international operations by Kingfisher Airlines.

Financial Express

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VT-ASJ


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User currently offlineVTNYC From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 277 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 3943 times:

Quoting Aseem (Thread starter):
The ministry is planning to relax the clause by reducing the timeframe to three years.

..... it still remains that some one can start an airline outside India today and start earning money tomorrow off Indians while Indian government ties an Indian corporation hands behind it's back. Wonder if the Indian Government can require foreign airlines flying to India to have a at least 3 years experience and a fleet of 20 aircraft.

VT-NYC



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User currently offlineAseem From India, joined Feb 2005, 2046 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 3916 times:

Quoting VTNYC (Reply 1):

what is even more difficult is renegotiation of bilateral agreement with whom whe had been on table not long ago. IMHO!! countries like Singapore and UAE shouldn't have any problem accomodating our private carriers, as their own are free to fly pretty much anywhere in India. Same applies to Thailand.
Should be really good news for those aiming to fly to US, as DHS cannot book every carrier for the reasons they did to 9W.
rgds
VT-ASJ



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User currently offlineSquawk0303 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 39 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 3638 times:

Or Indian carriers can follow Vijay Mallya's strategy, foreign registered airplanes flying on behalf of Indian parent airlines.

User currently offlineCentrair From Japan, joined Jan 2005, 3598 posts, RR: 20
Reply 4, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 3599 times:

Quoting Aseem (Thread starter):
Vijay Mallya-promoted Kingfisher Airlines has floated a subsidiary named Kingfisher Airline Inc in the US to operate flights from US to India.

...will CO allow it.



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User currently offlineAviator27 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 3504 times:

Aseem why do you insist on promoting nonsense about VM US subsidiary? Even if you got your quote from the news media. Please put that one right up there next to the "Kingfisher bids for Maxjet" article. There is no substance to them. It it completely against US law for him to run an airline there. I am well aware his children are US citizens. However, they are teenagers. He was trying to use that as leverage against Indian DGCA. However, to the people who really matter, they all know this US subsidiary is a sham. So please stop repeating it.

User currently offlineAseem From India, joined Feb 2005, 2046 posts, RR: 10
Reply 6, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 3486 times:

Quoting Aviator27 (Reply 5):
Aseem why do you insist on promoting nonsense about VM US subsidiary? Even if you got your quote from the news media. Please put that one right up there next to the "Kingfisher bids for Maxjet" article. There is no substance to them. It it completely against US law for him to run an airline there. I am well aware his children are US citizens. However, they are teenagers. He was trying to use that as leverage against Indian DGCA. However, to the people who really matter, they all know this US subsidiary is a sham. So please stop repeating it.

If you read the first post carefully, you'll realize that it is not about VM's Kingfisher but all the new start up airlines. I wonder how you reached that conclusion, maybe you had a brawl with somebody right before you read the post.
Please note that the thread is about new Indian carriers starting international ops out of India, and not the other way round as VM had proposed/advertized.
rgds
VT-ASJ

[Edited 2006-08-07 13:42:10]


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