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American Eagle Dedicated Infant Seats...Why?  
User currently offlineCha747 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 788 posts, RR: 6
Posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 5125 times:

Not so much of a complaint, but why is this the way that it is? Here is the policy that I and the reservations AAgent overlooked when it came to booking flights for my infant son...straight from the AA website:

Seating Restrictions
Traveling With An Infant On American Eagle Flights
If you will be traveling with an infant on an American Eagle aircraft as shown below, you must be seated in one of the following seats which are designated life vest-equipped rows:

SAAB 340B - seats 10C, 11C or 12C
ERJ 135 - seats 11C, 12C or 13C
ERJ 140 - seats 13C, 14C or 15C
ERJ 145 - seats 15C, 16C or 17C
Bombardier CRJ-700 - seats 15D, 16D or 17D


We got to the airport and got reassigned from row 7 to row 16 A, B, and C. on an E-145. When I picked-up my son and brought him to my side of the cabin (single seaing in A, BC on the other side of the aisle), I was politely requested to return him to the other side of the aisle as there is only 1 oxygen mask on that side of the aisle.

So why are these special seats in the back of the plane? How come AA mainline do not care and do not have infant vests? Why can't the infant vests be "portable?" Any other airlines have these restrictions?


You land a million planes safely, then you have one little mid-air and you never hear the end of it - Pushing Tin
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User currently offlineS5FA170 From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 534 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 5121 times:

The ERJ-145 does not feature slides on any of the doors. Were your aircraft to land in water, the only way to keep your baby floating is to put him in an infant life jacket.

On larger aircraft with slides (at least on mine, anyway) it is our policy during a water evacuation to place infants on top of the slide, which is used as a raft during a water evacuation.

Also, the point about the oxygen mask is a very valid one! Their is very little time to play with during a decompression within which to secure your own mask, let alone someone else's, especially if it is across the aisle from you!

-Tony



Prepare doors for departure and cross-check.
User currently offlineExRUAgentatDAL From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 41 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 5121 times:

Another issue I am familliar with from the 145 and 135 is that some airlines only have an extra oxygen mask for lap infants on certain rows....guess it saves a few bucks.

Chris



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User currently offlineS5FA170 From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 534 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 5113 times:

Quoting ExRUAgentatDAL (Reply 2):
Another issue I am familliar with from the 145 and 135 is that some airlines only have an extra oxygen mask for lap infants on certain rows....guess it saves a few bucks.

On smaller aircraft like the -145, their is only one oxygen mask on the single seat side of the cabin because of space requirements. Their is more room on the right-hand side of the aircraft to place an extra mask than on the left. Its not because it saves a few bucks!

-Tony



Prepare doors for departure and cross-check.
User currently offlineExRUAgentatDAL From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 41 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 5086 times:

On CO RJ's even on the single side on the infant rows there are 2 masks. They just add one extra mask on each side, allowing for one lapchild on each side.

Chris



"The views expressed are mine alone and do not reflect the views of AirTran Airways"
User currently offlineMawelsh From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 73 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 5070 times:

Cha747

I've read through this and your other topic on the subject. One note that I didn't see mentioned...

On Delta at least, because my son was using a carseat, I had to be reassigned on four of four legs because I had chosen seats immediately after an exit row. (I knew I couldn't be IN an exit row, so I thought that would be the next safest.) I didn't learn of the rule until we were taxiing on the first leg. That trip was on MD-88's and 757's.

On Tuesday we're doing CMH to GRK on CO...I'm still using a car seat but staying away from the exit rows...


User currently offlineS5FA170 From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 534 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 5060 times:

Quoting ExRUAgentatDAL (Reply 4):
On CO RJ's even on the single side on the infant rows there are 2 masks

I was just kidding about what I said, then. LOL

-Tony



Prepare doors for departure and cross-check.
User currently offlineCha747 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 788 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 5027 times:

Mawlesh - yes, I found that out the moment that we checked in - our csr went through the entire list of rules and regs.


You land a million planes safely, then you have one little mid-air and you never hear the end of it - Pushing Tin
User currently offlineWe're Nuts From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5722 posts, RR: 19
Reply 8, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 4945 times:

Quoting Mawelsh (Reply 5):
On Delta at least, because my son was using a carseat, I had to be reassigned on four of four legs because I had chosen seats immediately after an exit row. (I knew I couldn't be IN an exit row, so I thought that would be the next safest.) I didn't learn of the rule until we were taxiing on the first leg. That trip was on MD-88's and 757's.

Because in an evacuation those doors can get thrown anywhere. Outside the plane, inside the plane - it could be chaotic. We don't want it to land on your son.



Dear moderators: No.
User currently offlineMarkHKG From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 960 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 4906 times:

Incidentally, for those interested on how to EVACUATE your infant during an emergency...consider reading the following FAA CAMI report

"Caring for Precious Cargo, Part I:
Emergency Aircraft Evacuations With
Infants Onto Inflatable Escape Slides"

(I like the title.  Smile )

http://www.hf.faa.gov/docs/508/docs/cami/0118.pdf

Part II is how to evacuate through an overwing exit hatch (Type III)


"Caring for Precious Cargo, Part II: Behavioral Techniques for Emergency Aircraft Evacuations With Infants Through the Type III Overwing Exit"


http://www.faa.gov/library/reports/m...amtechreports/2000s/media/0502.pdf



Release your seat-belts and get out! Leave everything!
User currently offlineTristarsteve From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 4063 posts, RR: 33
Reply 10, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 4868 times:

All our aircraft B737 B757 B767 A320 have special seats for infants.
It is because only certain PSUs have an extra oxygen mask. And it is different on each plane. On some it the right hand seats, on some it is the left hand seats and on some it is alternate rows. Until this year the check in computor let you make a mistake, but then when the gate agent closed the flight it told you that you were wrong and had to move the infants. To stop this happening the lead agent usually pre seats all booked infants in the correct rows, and blocks off one row for any non-booked infant that shows up.


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