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Overseas Delivery For Short Haul Aircraft: How?  
User currently offlineAdric10 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 17 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 5248 times:

Hi all...

sorry if this has been posted before -- I checked the archives and didn't see anything, so here goes...

I'm curious how short-haul aircraft (717, turboprops, etc) get delivered to overseas destinations that otherwise seem to be out of their range? Like... How did HA get their 717s to the islands, since there's nowhere to stop between the west coast and Hawaii? Or is this within their range when the planes are empty? The same goes for turboprop aircraft... somehow they get across oceans, but how?

cheers!

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User currently offlineBMIFlyer From UK - England, joined Feb 2004, 8810 posts, RR: 58
Reply 1, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 5241 times:

Quoting Adric10 (Thread starter):
How did HA get their 717s to the islands

Extra fuel tanks  Wink


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User currently offlineAirCanada014 From Canada, joined Oct 2005, 1513 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 5233 times:

yeah it has been discussed many times before.

User currently offlineAdric10 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 17 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 5233 times:

AHHHHH.... all of the mysteries of the world now seem clearer  Big grin

User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13169 posts, RR: 15
Reply 4, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 5180 times:

Extra fuel tanks, and where practical, 'island hopping'. Deliveries between the USA and Europe of small a/c may require fuel stops in Gander (Newfoundland, Canada), Iceland, and UK/Ireland, or even the Azores/Canary Islands. For the Pacific, that may include via Hawaii, and various small Pacific islands, if to the south Pacific. Eastern Asia may include Anchorage, South Korea. Special temporary certification may be required as to the extra fuel tanks, pilots qualifications, through inspection of a/c before and during the flight.
There have been several other threads on these subjects, including the delivery of general aircraft, with links as to when things go wrong which are facinating story.


User currently offlineB742 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 3768 posts, RR: 19
Reply 5, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 5173 times:

Most of the time aircraft just take loads of stops en-route to their delivery destination!

For example, recently a A320 was deleivered to Asiana, the route was as follows:

Hamburg Finkenwerder - Ankara - Karachi - Bangkok - Seoul

Rob!  wave 


User currently offlineJrosa From Brazil, joined Jun 2005, 367 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 5006 times:

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 4):
There have been several other threads on these subjects, including the delivery of general aircraft, with links as to when things go wrong which are facinating story.

Does someone have the links?


User currently offlineVV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 7681 posts, RR: 17
Reply 7, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 4867 times:

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 4):
'island hopping'

For example the EMB145s purchased by what was then British Regional Airways and is now BA Connect were routed SJK-REC-FEN-LPA-OPO-BRS-IOM (San Jose de Campos, Recife-Guararapes, Fenando de Noronha (all Brazil), Las Palmas (Spanish Gran Canaria), Oporto, Bristol, Isle of Man).

This was a three day trip with, for example, G-EMBX leaving SJK on 22 March 02 and arriving at BRS on 24 March. But this relatively long elapsed time was almost certainly down to there being just one flight crew on the ferry flight rather than the length of the journey. Interestingly, however, the trans-Atlantic island hopping takes a minor place to the positioning of the aircraft in Brazil in preparation for the over-water flight.


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