BOAC911 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 454 posts, RR: 0 Posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 6317 times:
A BAC 1-11 operated by Braniff International Airways crashed in Nebraska on a flight from Kansas City to Omaha 40 years ago today (August 6, 1966). I was less than a year old at the time, and would be interested to read about any recollections of this accident. Thanks.
140'x60sec=8400 feet in one minute
60mph is a mile a minute which is 5280ft per minute
I would guess 8400 ft per minute is around 100mph give or take 10mph.
100mph is quite an interesting gust of wind, on the ground or in the air.
Anyone else on this?
If two people agree on EVERYTHING, then one isn't necessary.
CF-CPI From Canada, joined Nov 2000, 1236 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 5533 times:
The pilots decided to fly through what appeared to be a clear area in the approaching squall line. It has been speculated that a 'horizontal tornado' existed in that 'clear' area. Several other funnel clouds formed at that altitude on the same evening.
I had never heard of a horizontal tornado -perhaps someone with meteorology experience could elucidate?
I was told that the intact fuselage pancaked into the ground causing one side to split open, with the resulting ejection of contents (pax) in more or less one direction. I don't suppose anyone could have survived that for long, though with some other crashes (BA/BEA Trident Zagreb and Trident Staines) there was evidence of people surviving the initial impact.
Planespotting From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3546 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 5448 times:
Quoting CF-CPI (Reply 7): I had never heard of a horizontal tornado -perhaps someone with meteorology experience could elucidate?
Well, I've never heard of a horizontal tornado occuring naturally in nature, but if you think about it, wake turbulence is like a horizontal tornado. It is a column of spinning air starting out at a point whose circumference gets wider as it gets taller (or longer, in this case).
I would imagine most horizontal tornados (including wake turbulence) are invisible, because as they do not touch the ground, there is no spinning cloud of dust and debris.
However, a naturally occuring horizontal spiraling column of wind and wake turbulence could never actually be called a tornado, as neither actually touches the ground.
Contrails From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 1835 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 5422 times:
There are "horizontal tornados" associated with mountain ranges that are called "rotors". They are rather common in the Colorado Rockies, and for a while it was under consideration as a possible cause of the UA 737 flight at COS a few years ago. I saw a documentary on one of the cable channels about the research into rotors that was being done in the Rockies.
I don't know if rotors that are found in storms (which I heard of growing up in Oklahoma) are the same as rotors found in mountain ranges.
Charlienorth From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 1140 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 5358 times:
I knew an Ex-Braniff pilot who was aN MSP based BAC111 First Officer at the time and on the same trip,just different days,said his phone started ringing off the hook that night,people checking to see if he was on it.