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Braniff Crash In Nebraska 40 Years Ago.  
User currently offlineBOAC911 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 452 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 5935 times:

A BAC 1-11 operated by Braniff International Airways crashed in Nebraska on a flight from Kansas City to Omaha 40 years ago today (August 6, 1966). I was less than a year old at the time, and would be interested to read about any recollections of this accident. Thanks.

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User currently offlineTripleP From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 5887 times:

Google to the rescue...

http://www.pilotfriend.com/disasters/crash/braniff250.htm


User currently offlineMagyarorszag From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 5829 times:

Hey BOAC,

Look dwn there.

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Cheers.


User currently offlineCharlienorth From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 1119 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (8 years 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 5783 times:

The First Officer's family is dedicating a memorial this weekend at the crash site http://www.thebranifffamily.org/events.asp scroll down a little.

User currently offlineCharlienorth From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 1119 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (8 years 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 5615 times:

More about it here http://news.pajamasmedia.com/2006/08...04/10037598_Falls_City_to_ma.shtml

User currently offlineStirling From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 3943 posts, RR: 21
Reply 5, posted (8 years 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 5524 times:

From the first link:

Quote:
It was determined that 250 would have to encounter a gust of at least 140ft/sec. at an upward angle to cause the tailplane to fail.

And how fast is that in miles per hour (MPH)?
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User currently offlineIsitsafenow From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4984 posts, RR: 23
Reply 6, posted (8 years 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 5445 times:

Quoting Stirling (Reply 5):

140'x60sec=8400 feet in one minute
60mph is a mile a minute which is 5280ft per minute
I would guess 8400 ft per minute is around 100mph give or take 10mph.
100mph is quite an interesting gust of wind, on the ground or in the air.

Anyone else on this?
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User currently offlineCF-CPI From Canada, joined Nov 2000, 1053 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 5151 times:

The pilots decided to fly through what appeared to be a clear area in the approaching squall line. It has been speculated that a 'horizontal tornado' existed in that 'clear' area. Several other funnel clouds formed at that altitude on the same evening.

I had never heard of a horizontal tornado -perhaps someone with meteorology experience could elucidate?

I was told that the intact fuselage pancaked into the ground causing one side to split open, with the resulting ejection of contents (pax) in more or less one direction. I don't suppose anyone could have survived that for long, though with some other crashes (BA/BEA Trident Zagreb and Trident Staines) there was evidence of people surviving the initial impact.


User currently offlineDavid L From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 9524 posts, RR: 42
Reply 8, posted (8 years 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 5129 times:

Quoting Isitsafenow (Reply 6):
I would guess 8400 ft per minute is around 100mph give or take 10mph.

95.45 mph.


User currently offlinePlanespotting From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3526 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (8 years 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 5066 times:

Quoting CF-CPI (Reply 7):
I had never heard of a horizontal tornado -perhaps someone with meteorology experience could elucidate?

Well, I've never heard of a horizontal tornado occuring naturally in nature, but if you think about it, wake turbulence is like a horizontal tornado. It is a column of spinning air starting out at a point whose circumference gets wider as it gets taller (or longer, in this case).

I would imagine most horizontal tornados (including wake turbulence) are invisible, because as they do not touch the ground, there is no spinning cloud of dust and debris.

However, a naturally occuring horizontal spiraling column of wind and wake turbulence could never actually be called a tornado, as neither actually touches the ground.



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User currently offlineContrails From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 1833 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 5040 times:

There are "horizontal tornados" associated with mountain ranges that are called "rotors". They are rather common in the Colorado Rockies, and for a while it was under consideration as a possible cause of the UA 737 flight at COS a few years ago. I saw a documentary on one of the cable channels about the research into rotors that was being done in the Rockies.

I don't know if rotors that are found in storms (which I heard of growing up in Oklahoma) are the same as rotors found in mountain ranges.



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User currently offlineCharlienorth From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 1119 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (8 years 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 4976 times:

I knew an Ex-Braniff pilot who was aN MSP based BAC111 First Officer at the time and on the same trip,just different days,said his phone started ringing off the hook that night,people checking to see if he was on it.

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