1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 5774 posts, RR: 2 Posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2635 times:
What is the frequency of different aircraft types in Delta's fleet per concourse at ATL? I know that Concourse E is mostly 767-300ERs, and at Concourse T, there are many domestic widebodies. Concourse A also gets some widebodies as well. Concourse B I believe is mostly MD-88s. Concourse C is only for Delta Connection, and Concourse D is mostly Delta Connection with an occasional MD-88. Does anyone know the frequency of individual aircraft types per each concourse?
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OttoPylit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 1, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2628 times:
Well, with over 600 gate changes on a standard day in ATL, there is no real frequency of aircraft per concourse. Some gates are restricted to narrowbodies, some are restricted for widebodies. Its basically whatever is needed to make any changes affecting the customer the least complicated. I know B North is mostly narrowbodies, and A Concourse usually has a good amount of widebodies. E Concourse actually pulls in more 738's and 757's than you think. A good chunk of flights to Central/South America are on those, and anytime a gate just isn't available anywhere else, you can always throw it over to E, but that is a last case scenario.
Venezuela747 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1407 posts, RR: 5 Reply 2, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2597 times:
I landed in ATL on a DL737 last Spring Break coming from COS and the captain said right after landing we'll be taxing in gate A30-somethin, we were headin all the way to A and all of the sudden the captain is like "There has been a change we are now going to Concourse E" so they changed the gate at the last second, I beleive that plane continued on to Mexico. It turned out pretty nice cause I found my buddy with whom I was supposed to meet up on the train on the way back to baggage claim.
But as described above it's pretty much like that. Some International flights also depart from the T-gates. Mostly domestic big boys on A and B and smaller jets on C. And Int'l on E.
DeltaGator From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 16 Reply 3, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2488 times:
Go with Otto's explanation as he would know what fits where down there. A few additions...
1) 767-400s only fit into certain T, A, and E gates.
2) B19 and B21 (any others?) were deserted for a while but they are now stuffing in some Shuttle America and ASA Barbie jets.
3) 777s fit only at E gates (or at least I've never seen them elsewhere.)
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DAL767400ER From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 5721 posts, RR: 50 Reply 4, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2451 times:
Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 3): 2) B19 and B21 (any others?) were deserted for a while but they are now stuffing in some Shuttle America and ASA Barbie jets.
Also B18 and B20 are being used, though IIRC those could still handle MD-88s.
Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 3): 777s fit only at E gates (or at least I've never seen them elsewhere.)
They theorethically could, given those gates could handle 747s back in the days, but it would limit the plane size of nearby gates, and of course, it's only used for international flights these days, so there's really no use for it.
From what I have gathered, the use of gates at ATL is mostly as follows:
Concourse T, gates 1-8:
Delta mainline, primarily for high-frequency routes like DCA, LGA, BOS, FLL, using everything from MD-88s to 764s, with international departures added nowadays as well, using planes that arrive off domestic segments, primarily for the 764s and 738s IIRC.
Concourse A: All Delta, MD-88s, 738s, 757s, 763s and up until this year also 762s, mostly domestic, though there can be occasional int'l departures on 738s and 757s from here.
Concourse B: All Delta, same as above, though I believe 767s were limited to B-1 and B-2, though with the reduction of domestic 767 flying, I'd guess B might (soon) be narrowbody-only. Plus you have Chautauqua and Shuttle America operating from B18-21 on a regular basis, with B-16 as backup, for their ERJs and E70s. Might be more once all E70s are brought over from SLC.
Concourse C, gates 21-36(including subgates): Many, many CRJs operated by ASA and Comair.
Concourse D, gates 2?-38: Where ASA's ATRs have brought to (?), plus CRJs as well.
Concourse E: Whatever you have arriving off international trips, primarily 777s and 767s, but also 757s, 738s, and also the CRJs.
Venezuela747 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1407 posts, RR: 5 Reply 5, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2344 times:
Some of the problems with just limiting the international departure is this new program instated by the US Government. I am not sure who has to do this, but non-us citizens on visas have to go to this little kiosk that are scattered all over the terminal and scan their passport/visa or whatever and get a stamp or a receipt for them to show when they return to the US, it is called the US-visit program.
Well the thing is most people are not aware of it and the airline does not make sure their passenger have it before they board. Someone I knew flew outside the US and did not go to one of the kiosk, when he returned to the US a few months later he was held up at Immigration for about 4 hours until they finally let him go.
So the thing is I have only seen this machines at E and I am guessing they have somea the T-gates. It would not be a good idea for a international flight to depart from say B or A and have like 30 passengers go over to E and return.
Deltadude From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 126 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2299 times:
Quoting Venezuela747 (Reply 5): So the thing is I have only seen this machines at E and I am guessing they have somea the T-gates. It would not be a good idea for a international flight to depart from say B or A and have like 30 passengers go over to E and return.
I know I've seen them in D. I'm pretty sure there is a least one in every Concourse. Air Canada operates out of D. Last time I checked, that was international.
DAL767400ER From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 5721 posts, RR: 50 Reply 7, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 2229 times:
No doubt that concourse E is scattered with them, because that's where most international flights and pax leave off, but they at least have 2 of them over in Concourse T, after DL officially announced that Int'l departures would depart from there. Not sure whether the other concourses have them, but each one normally should have at least 2-3 of those kiosks.
WorldTraveler From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 8, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2217 times:
DL prefers to have its international departures in one area regardless of where the INS machines are. DL has responsibilities regarding checking passenger documentation etc that goes with int'l departures and DL would rather have that done by a dedicated group of people.
Gate changes at ATL are much easier to deal with because of the single underground concourse and security checkpoint.
DAL767400ER From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 5721 posts, RR: 50 Reply 10, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2198 times:
Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 9): But that's the problem. International departures are spread out now on T and E.
Indeed, and that's mainly because during the early evening, E is simply full, mostly DL of course, but also AF, KL, LH, BA, and JM. Of course, when (or rather if ) the new International Terminal and its 10-gate Concourse F open, international departures can be better concentrated again.