Cwldude From United Kingdom, joined May 2006, 691 posts, RR: 1 Reply 2, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 5106 times:
He really needs to get real!
Im be ashamed to call FR my countrie's national carrier, I love the way they fail to mention any long haul routes that EI offer.
That's another reason why I hate Ryanair, they can't just start new routes and get on with it like everyone else, they have to ridicule another airline or someone else to go along with it!
Thomson Airways - The UKs premier charter airline // now flown : BY -AA -AJ -AE -AT; OO -AX -AU -RA -BG; BRIG; OBYD
Im be ashamed to call FR my countrie's national carrier, I love the way they fail to mention any long haul routes that EI offer.
That's another reason why I hate Ryanair, they can't just start new routes and get on with it like everyone else, they have to ridicule another airline or someone else to go along with it!
I so fully agree with you. As far as I'm conecrned and many Irish people I'd say, as long as EI are around, and with their 75 years of history I hope they will be around for very long, Aer Lingus is and will always be our national airline. FR a national airline... what a JOKE. Mol reallly is incredible with some of the rubbish he comes out with.
EI321 From Iraq, joined Jul 2009, 0 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 5059 times:
Quoting Toulouse (Reply 1): Fully agree with you. Can you imagine what boarding area A is going to be like now?
It wont be so bad for the winter as they will just take the slack from the flights which operate in summer only like AC, but these new routes are year round, so if Pier D is not ready by next summer the airport will be hell for passengers.
Quoting Cwldude (Reply 2): Im be ashamed to call FR my countrie's national carrier,
They are of course not the national carrier, only FR themselves are claiming this. Its a laughable notion
Clogman From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 5, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 5046 times:
I gotta say that I'm surprised that they chosed Billund. I think its cool. But I hoped that they would have chosen KRP instead. But they are probably to damn expensive as usual.
Diesel1 From UK - Wales, joined Mar 2001, 1624 posts, RR: 12 Reply 6, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 4908 times:
If I was Irish I think I could be very proud of what Ryanair has achieved. A hugely successful business operation, one the leaders in its market sector in Europe.
Whilst FR does not have the same level of 'Irishness' that Aer Lingus have - though with EI's move to being a LCC it becomes difficult for them to continue to provide that difference - all the facts and figures behind the spin that MO'L provides are true.
Would you really prefer there to be no FR and for the level of choice and additional destinations to travellers it provides not to be available?
Bobski From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2006, 83 posts, RR: 1 Reply 7, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 4888 times:
God I hate Ryanair. Is it really necessary to act like you're a 3 year old child going "my airline's bigger than Aer Lingus, nya nya na nya nya". It really is pathetic.
As an aside, on average my trips between Dublin and Birmingham with Aer Lingus are CHEAPER than Ryanair. Ryanair's service is rubbish as well. If I have a late flight and a legitimate complaint (ie the flight being nearly 2 hours late, and boarding the plane being a nightmare with passengers barging and shoving whilst the Ryanair people look on not giving a damn) then I expect it to be dealt with, or at least to get an apology for the poor service (I'm not that fussed about compensation). I do NOT expect a politely worded "p*ss off, your flight was delayed by less than 2 hours so by law we don't have to care" from Ryanair!
Aer Lingus wins hands down every time for me. I now only fly with them to the UK.
Cwldude From United Kingdom, joined May 2006, 691 posts, RR: 1 Reply 9, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 4847 times:
Quoting Diesel1 (Reply 6): Would you really prefer there to be no FR and for the level of choice and additional destinations to travellers it provides not to be available?
It wouldn't make no difference to me, I would never, ever, ever, fly Ryanair!
If I had 2 options of getting from A to B, one being direct with Ryanair, the other being by going via 3 other airports... I'd go with the 3 other airports.
They really are, just... shit!
Thomson Airways - The UKs premier charter airline // now flown : BY -AA -AJ -AE -AT; OO -AX -AU -RA -BG; BRIG; OBYD
Quoting Diesel1 (Reply 10): Why not try answering the question I posed.
Quoting Cwldude (Reply 9): It wouldn't make no difference to me
You asked my opinion, you got it, just because you don't like it, doesn't really bother me?
Yes, right, they have their success, well done to them for getting this far, but, as said, they are a real sour, childish airline, and they haven't won their success fairly.
I know most of you think that I don't like FR because they left CWL, but I actually never liked them in the first place, simply for the reasons:
- MOl is the biggest dick head ever to grace this planet
- They ridicule airports and airlines if they're a threat, insted of taking competition seriously, and dealing with it fairly
- My idea of a good airline is one that won't leave you stranded in an airport if they cancel your flight, one that offers a decent service, one who's crew do care for your needs, one that is fair to, and appreciates it's passengers.
As for the 30M passengers, they pay pittence for their flight, and you'll find that probably at least 20M of them will be dis-satisfied with what they got.
I'd rather pay that little bit extra, and be guaranteed a safe, enjoyable journey!
Thomson Airways - The UKs premier charter airline // now flown : BY -AA -AJ -AE -AT; OO -AX -AU -RA -BG; BRIG; OBYD
Cornish From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 8187 posts, RR: 56 Reply 13, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 4737 times:
Quoting Cwldude (Reply 12): know most of you think that I don't like FR because they left CWL, but I actually never liked them in the first place,
But no doubt had they launched 12 new routes out of CWL you'd have been cheering them from the rooftops
Quoting Cwldude (Reply 9): If I had 2 options of getting from A to B, one being direct with Ryanair, the other being by going via 3 other airports... I'd go with the 3 other airports.
Even if one of them was BRS ??
Just when I thought I could see light at the end of the tunnel, it was some B*****d with a torch bringing me more work
Diesel1 From UK - Wales, joined Mar 2001, 1624 posts, RR: 12 Reply 14, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 4695 times:
Quoting Cwldude (Reply 12): You asked my opinion, you got it, just because you don't like it, doesn't really bother me?
I think you're confused. I haven't said I disagree with your opinion. I'm trying to have a reasoned discussion around the points you raise...
Quoting Cwldude (Reply 12): Yes, right, they have their success, well done to them for getting this far, but... they haven't won their success fairly.
In what ways do you mean that "they haven't won their success fairly"?
Quoting Cwldude (Reply 12): MOl is the biggest dick head ever to grace this planet
Don't be silly.
Quoting Cwldude (Reply 12): They ridicule airports and airlines if they're a threat, insted of taking competition seriously, and dealing with it fairly
This is an interesting point...
Quoting Cwldude (Reply 12): My idea of a good airline is one that won't leave you stranded in an airport if they cancel your flight, one that offers a decent service, one who's crew do care for your needs, one that is fair to, and appreciates it's passengers
FR offer exactly what they describe as their service. As consumers it is our choice whether we use them or not.
Quoting Cwldude (Reply 12): As for the 30M passengers, they pay pittence for their flight, and you'll find that probably at least 20M of them will be dis-satisfied with what they got.
Again, don't be silly.
Quoting Cwldude (Reply 12): I'd rather pay that little bit extra, and be guaranteed a safe, enjoyable journey!
That's quite an allegation to make that FR are not safe... care to back it up with some facts that prove your assertion?
StarGoldLHR From Heard and McDonald Islands, joined Feb 2004, 1529 posts, RR: 1 Reply 16, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 4656 times:
Quoting Cwldude (Reply 9): If I had 2 options of getting from A to B, one being direct with Ryanair, the other being by going via 3 other airports... I'd go with the 3 other airports.
That makes you:
1. Airline Snob
2. A.netter
So far in 2008 45 flights and Gold already. JFK, IAD, LGA, SIN, HKG, NRT, AKL, PPT, LAX still to book ! Home Airport LCY
StarGoldLHR From Heard and McDonald Islands, joined Feb 2004, 1529 posts, RR: 1 Reply 18, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 4643 times:
Quoting Cwldude (Reply 12): As for the 30M passengers, they pay pittence for their flight, and you'll find that probably at least 20M of them will be dis-satisfied with what they got.
Ryanair is the Carlsberg of the air...
Cheap, Cheerful and reaches the parts other airlines cannot reach.
Ryanair is successful by linking nowhere to nowhere... or some nowhere hub to nowhere
this is the parts no other airline can reach
So far in 2008 45 flights and Gold already. JFK, IAD, LGA, SIN, HKG, NRT, AKL, PPT, LAX still to book ! Home Airport LCY
YOW From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 19, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 4631 times:
While FR might lay claim to being Ireland's 'National Carrier' EI can claim they're the country's 'International Flag Carrier', something I'd be a lot more proud of than just a national airline.
I'm not out to bash FR, I'm flying with them in November.
DAYflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3807 posts, RR: 4 Reply 22, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 4623 times:
Oh no chance of that mate - anyhow my day job means i can afford to have some light fun on here.
I don't particularly like Ryanair either - they wouldn't be my choice to fly, and with LHR being my local airport they're not a convenient option either.
Having said that, putting my industry hat back on, I have to admire them tremendously for what they have done. Many people may not like they're style, but it could be argued that without that approach they would never have become the success they are. For many, many people they have made flying affordable and convenient. As a Cornishman, I know damn well that NQY airport was doing very little until Ryanair came along and showed what could be done. Without that there would likely be no Baby services, flyBe, and with more to come. and other airports can say the same.
But if I had a local airport without a great deal of service and Ryanair came along and announced 12 new routes across Europe, frankly I'd be delighted.
But it is obvious from your posts that there is a lot of sour grapes. Get the chip off your shoulder and lose the attitude, remove the rose tinted specs and then I'm sure you will have plenty of useful comments to offer this forum. You're clearly no fool, but you're doing yourself no favours with the petty comments.
Just when I thought I could see light at the end of the tunnel, it was some B*****d with a torch bringing me more work
25 Shamrock350: I am not a great fan of FR, I have had four flights with them and three of the flights were not what I would expect from an airline in terms of servic
27 Shamrock350: Aer Lingus have 61 routes from Dublin, that is if I counted right. Both airlines are quite equal in size at DUB.[Edited 2006-08-09 19:16:40]
28 Cwldude: Maybe I am, but at least as a result I get good services, satisfactory levels of... well... everything, decent comfort, I haven't got to run for a go
29 Cwldude: Sorry I seem to have missed this post earlier... just a few comments... As I've said on numerous occasions, they win passengers, through picking out t
30 Cornish: Erm sorry but you are in no position to tell me what happened at NQY. I'm actually in a position to know what the reality there is. FR have only ever
31 Greenjet: Don't worry the tent on top of the short term car park will be the answer to all of the DAA's problems So that's why they get so much repeat business
32 Planesarecool: Wrong. WOW came along after BACX dropped it's Gatwick base and thus dropped it's Gatwick-Plymouth/Bristol-Newquay services. It took an ex-Brymon/BACX
33 Almeriabound: Have just checked flights in February from Almeria to Dublin... they start at €0.01, so can't complain really. Great news for Almeria - although gue
34 CXA330300: Ryanair is a passing fad. Their rapid expansion and worsening "service" -what of it existed anyway-will begin to eat them alive, and if an accident ha
35 BCAL: If you want good services, satisfactory levels of everything, then it is your choice to fly the full-service legacy carriers. Many other people simpl
36 Pe@rson: Frankly, most of you are spewing so much manure you’re clearly just ignorant fools to such a degree that you’re ludicrous. Why don’t you actuall
37 Toulouse: Pe@rson, while you don't seem to respect people who dislike FR (and I am one of them) I respect and agree with a lot of what you said in the post. Ju
38 Pe@rson: That undermines everything you have said. Take it as you wish. But if you or anyone submits nonsense based on sheer bias, hatred and the ill-informed
39 Toulouse: You interestingly failed to quote the whole part of what I said. I'll repeat the quote for you to show that I do realise the naievity of it, but it's
40 Pe@rson: Almost all of which is: A) Based on myths - like its media profile - and not all-important truths; B) Based on unfounded bias; C) Based, in a lot of
41 Kaitak: I've flown FR on several occasions and while they wouldn't be my first choice (I was disappointed to see EZY pull out of SNN), I find it difficult to
42 FlyKev: Ive only flown FR once, however I paid just £30 for a flight, where the train cost me £144. Had I booked one day before, it would have been £15 rtn
43 Toulouse: Kev I agree with all you say. That is why I choose not to fly FR, as I like more when flying, and believe me, on the routes I fly anyway, I can get m
44 Kazzie: Cwldude , Today FR got most of there flights out despite many other airlines cancelling.. Today wave baggage excess for all passengers Today FR Held A