Planesarecool From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 4110 posts, RR: 12 Posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 27737 times:
Quote: A major terrorist plot to blow up planes in mid-flight has been disrupted by police, Scotland Yard says.
It is thought the plan was to detonate explosive devices smuggled on board aircraft in hand luggage.
During the night, police arrested a number of people in London after a counter-terrorist operation they said had lasted several months.
Police believe the attacks would have been particularly targeted at flights from the UK to the US.
The Department for Transport said security at all UK airports has been increased.
Passengers on all flights will not be allowed to take any hand luggage on to any flights in the UK.
Only the barest essentials - including passports and wallets - will be allowed to be carried on board in transparent plastic bags.
777fan From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 2442 posts, RR: 3 Reply 1, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 27724 times:
Always eerie to hear but honestly not surprising. It's probably only a matter of time before someone attempts (and possibly succeeds) in earnest. Makes you wonder how many plots there are that don't get reported.
Alphonze From Hong Kong, joined Feb 2005, 50 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 27632 times:
Insanity. Utter, utter insanity. The day they tell me I must check my laptop and my book is the day I turn around from the check-in desk and go back home. With every passing day I am increasingly grateful that I have left the UK behind. Hurrah for Hong Kong, where one can still get metal cutlery airside (if one asks nicely).
777fan From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 2442 posts, RR: 3 Reply 4, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 27600 times:
Stupid move (IMO) to have everything checked in. Just cuz you don't have to flip a switch doesn't mean something can't detonate. Way to tip off the terrorists, guys! IIRC, Pan Am 103's explosives were triggered by a barometric device that went off at a certain altitude.
What's next, no clothes? FWIW, I still blame the terrorists...
Thomasphoto60 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3786 posts, RR: 24 Reply 5, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 27600 times:
Quoting BlueFlyer (Reply 2):
BBC journalist Joe Lynam encountered the increased security measures at Gatwick airport.
"I was handed a piece of paper saying that pretty much nothing could be taken on board the plane," he said.
"Everything had to be checked in and that includes mobile phones, ipods, wallets - even spectacle cases had to be checked in."
Let's hope this measure is short lived as I was planning to stop in London and visit some friends on my way back home to Houston in Oct. I'll be damned if I am going to surrender $10K worth of photo equipment to ground personel only to be tossed into the LD3 container along with a ton of other bags. If that is the case I'll make arrangements and head back to H-Town via LAX or SFO.
BlueFlyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 3487 posts, RR: 1 Reply 6, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 27544 times:
Quoting 777fan (Reply 4): Stupid move (IMO) to have everything checked in. Just cuz you don't have to flip a switch doesn't mean something can't detonate.
We should wait for further details before making this kind of judgement. Perhaps the device in question is mechanical/chemical rather than eletric or electronic to avoid detection, and flipping some sort of switch (in the vaguest sense of the expression) is the only way of activating it... in which case distance alone is enough to render it harmless.
Or perhaps it is indeed overreaction... And I truly hope it is, as no doubt everyone else does.
Rdwootty From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2005, 900 posts, RR: 2 Reply 9, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 27427 times:
That will be interesting when the Ryanair/Easyjet passengers checkin after being told they can take 15kgs carry on and if you want to check stuff in it will cost!! Also Flybe. I expect many arguments when they want you to pay for a bag that is a carryon!!!
Ward86IND From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 294 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 27427 times:
Quoting Alphonze (Reply 4): Insanity. Utter, utter insanity. The day they tell me I must check my laptop and my book is the day I turn around from the check-in desk and go back home. With every passing day I am increasingly grateful that I have left the UK behind. Hurrah for Hong Kong, where one can still get metal cutlery airside (if one asks nicely).
Oh, so you would rather be blown to pieces at 35,000 feet? Come on...I'm a diabetic so I would have a REAL problem if something like this were to happen when I fly, but I wouldn't bitch because it would be in the best interest of everyone's safety. Besides I'm sure it's only temporary. Congrats to the police on the bust.
"British Airways, acting on instruction from the UK Government, wishes to advise passengers that no items of hand baggage can be carried on board any aircraft departing any UK airport.
The UK Government has advised that this instruction will apply to all airlines operating from UK airports.
Passengers may only take through the airport security search point, the following items:
Travel documents essential for the journey (eg passports, tickets and visas)
Pocket sized wallets and pocked sized purses plus contents (for example money, credit cards and identity cards). Handbags are not permitted.
Prescribed medicines essential for the duration of the flight, except in liquid form unless verified as authentic.
Spectacles and sunglasses, without cases.
Contact lenses, without bottles of solution
For those traveling with an infant: baby food, milk and sanitary items essential for the flight.
Keys (but no electrical key fobs).
Every other item must be carried in customerï¿½s hold luggage.
For clarity, passengers are advised that no electrical or battery powered items including laptops, mobile phones, ipods, remote controls etc can be carried in the cabin and must be checked in as hold baggage.
Customers are advised to check-in as normal but to expect delays at all UK airports.
British Airways regrets any inconvenience caused.
Any customers not complying with this Government instruction will not be accepted for travel by British Airways."
ACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7625 posts, RR: 38 Reply 12, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 27397 times:
Quoting Planesarecool (Thread starter): Passengers on all flights will not be allowed to take any hand luggage on to any flights in the UK.
Is that even possible? With the amount of carry-on items, and type of baggage, that people carry with them these days, I would find it very chaotic for the pax and airports to carry this out. I'm quite sure that many pax will raise a stink when they find out that they have to leave their laptops and such in the hold. Plus the chances of the items going missing or being mixed up is mind boggling.
It would also raise the question on how reliable airport security is. An explosive device should not be able to get through securtiy as is. Of course, there is no 100% guarantee on that, but there is also no 100% guarantee on the device not making it on board through the checked baggage security.
It places heavy emphasis on the ban of any product in liquid form (including perfume, alcohol, etc... from duty free). Exception is made for baby milk, but only if someone accompanying the baby samples the product in front of security staff.
All passengers will be hand-searched. All passengers on US-bound flights will go through secondary screening.
Quoting 9VSPO (Reply 7): That would make an interesting flight!
Unboxed tampons carried in a transparant plastic bag in full view of everyone interesting enough?
Clipperhawaii From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2033 posts, RR: 12 Reply 16, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 27239 times:
There is no question that banning carry on luggage would be a major inconvenience. Higher scrutiny of any carry on should now occur perhaps with multiple checks. Start your check in 2 to 4 hours prior to departure now folks.
I wonder what specific profile those who were arrested will fall under? I think most of us already know the answer.
If you want to go after a specific object such as carry on's, that's fine. Perhaps we should go after those specific types of individuals who would carry specific items who would possibly do harm.
If you carry a laptop. You match the profile. You fit the description of one form the Middle East. You match the profile.
Sorry, but that's the reality of today's world.
Enjoy your trip. At least you will have your hands free.
BlueFlyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 3487 posts, RR: 1 Reply 21, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 27073 times:
UK Home Secretary made an interesting statement on TV to the effect that British MPs knew about today's events for about a month (no telling how much details they were given) and had been told that it would be made public right about now, so it would indicate that a certain element of planning went into this elevated security level, rather than a last-minute rush to avoid a terrorist attack.
On the other hand, the security level being raised to "Critical" (imminent attack likely) would indicate that despite all this planning, there's no guarantee all would-be terrorists have been rounded-up (or identified).
Customers not wishing to travel today (10Aug) can rebook to travel within the next 14 days in the same cabin. If you would like to discuss re-booking your flights, please contact your local British Airways office or travel agent, whichever issued your original travel documents.