Cory6188 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2686 posts, RR: 6 Reply 3, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 4261 times:
Quoting Gkirk (Reply 2): AFAIK, loads recently have been around the 78% mark
What about the yields? As many people have noted here on a.net in the past, while load factors are some indication of performance (a route with a 20% LF obviously isn't making any money), the yield is really the key to evaluating a route's success.
ScottishLaddie From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2004, 2383 posts, RR: 9 Reply 4, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4229 times:
79% load factor for it's first month in June. Not sure on the biz-eco split, but the route is carrying a lot of cargo.
Panamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4584 posts, RR: 26 Reply 6, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4066 times:
Quoting Gkirk (Reply 5): Front has been completely full on a few ocassions,
Front being full could simply mean a lot of non-revs, which is likely in this case as EDI is a new destination/route for DL...
DAL767400ER From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 5721 posts, RR: 50 Reply 7, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 4009 times:
Well, if the route is carrying lots of cargo, that should help the financials of the flights if yields for pax are rather low. Still, at least the 79% LF is higher than many people would have probably expected.
BY738 From US Minor Outlying Islands, joined Sep 2000, 1983 posts, RR: 1 Reply 8, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3992 times:
79% at the height of summer ? Wonder what it will be in deepest winter (and yes I know the frequency is having to be reduced during the winter )
Gkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24621 posts, RR: 58 Reply 9, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3939 times:
Quoting BY738 (Reply 8): 79% at the height of summer ? Wonder what it will be in deepest winter (and yes I know the frequency is having to be reduced during the winter )
More than it would have been at GLA? Give it time, it's just a new route after all.
When you hear the noise of the Tartan Army Boys, we'll be coming down the road!
Damian From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 231 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3803 times:
I think it's 86% for July. 11,475 passengers. Not bad at all. It carried more passengers than many established Scotland-USA routes, including GLA-PHL and GLA-ORD. Pretty good going. Loads will, I'm sure be down for winter, but hopefully they will be sufficiently strong to keep the route afloat on a year-round basis. Well done, DL!
BY738 From US Minor Outlying Islands, joined Sep 2000, 1983 posts, RR: 1 Reply 14, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3706 times:
ScottishLaddie From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2004, 2383 posts, RR: 9 Reply 16, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 3503 times:
ATL-EDI only carried 42 less passengers over the whole month of July than ATL-MAN did, a route which has been around for a good few years. Read into that what you will but hopefully the EDI route can establish itself as well as the MAN route has, looking good though.
MCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8553 posts, RR: 14 Reply 17, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 3485 times:
If its mostly Florida tourist then great. I'm happy that this flight is proving to be a money maker.
Exusair From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 684 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2904 times:
As far as yields go, I´m sure the yields for the aircraft dedicated to the route is pulling in more money than a Florida shuttle that was operated with the 767-300´s before they were converted to int´l configuration.
Damian From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 231 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2815 times:
Quoting BY738 (Reply 14): I suppose with minimal competition to the US from EDI you would hope so
I'm not sure I agree the competition is "minimal". Just because CO and DL are the only airlines flying directly to the USA from EDI that doesn't mean they represent the sum total of passengers travelling between the Scottish capital and the United States. BA/AA, AF, KL, LH, EI, BD/UA etc. all compete with these airlines from EDI, albeit on an indirect basis. Surface journeys to MAN to access US flights are also not unheard of. Additionally, GLA is near enough to EDI that transatlantic flights there are just as much competition to EDI.
Under the circumstances, DL seems to have done pretty well at EDI.
EWRCabincrew From United States of America, joined May 2006, 5522 posts, RR: 57 Reply 22, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2572 times:
Question for the Scots here...is GLA more leisure and EDI more business/finance or the other way around. Or do both cities have the same amount of that type of travel?
Gkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24621 posts, RR: 58 Reply 23, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2530 times:
Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 22): Question for the Scots here...is GLA more leisure and EDI more business/finance or the other way around.
EDI is a high yielding destination, although it does have a mix of Business and Leisure pax. GLA is for the most part, a low yielding outbiound leisure airport.
When you hear the noise of the Tartan Army Boys, we'll be coming down the road!
Nighthawk From UK - Scotland, joined Sep 2001, 4989 posts, RR: 38 Reply 24, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2506 times:
Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 22): Question for the Scots here...is GLA more leisure and EDI more business/finance or the other way around. Or do both cities have the same amount of that type of travel?
Edinburgh is the second most important business destination in the UK, after london. There are a lot of large companies based in Edinburgh, specifically Standard Life, Royal Bank Of Scotland, HBOS etc.
If you look at the traffic at each airport, you will see that most of Edinburghs traffic is scheduled european flights, with very little in the way of charter services. Glasgow on the other hand is the opposite, very few euro destinations, and a huge charter market.
Most of Edinburghs flights are year round, there are only a few summer-only services. A lot of Glasgows flights are summer only, the airport is pretty queit during the winter, so much so that BAA has offered airlines reduced fees during the winter to attract services.
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Give it time, it's just a new route after all.
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