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User currently offlineUKCO From United Kingdom, joined May 2006, 75 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 5775 times:

TSA are saying flights to the UK from the US are allowing electronic items, but just got back LAX-LHR, BA, and they didn't allow anything on board apart from what's in the plastic bag, and they are strict on that.

Fortunately my laptop is OK, but TSA should let passengers know so they can pre-pack.

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User currently offlineDTWAGENT From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1283 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 5760 times:

USAirways is saying not Laptops on USA to Europe flights. Who knows. I can't get a straight answer from anyone at US or the TSA

Good Luck

Chuck


User currently offlinePHLJJS From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 417 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 5734 times:

I believe it's up to the individual airline concerning flights to the UK. TSA has not issued any orders concering carry-ons except te liquid/gel ban. I do believe reading in the paper yesterday that BA and US were indeed banning carry-ons and electronic devices in the cabin and were waiving over weight/ excess baggage charges.

User currently offlineMANYQB From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2006, 48 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 5734 times:

On BBC Breakfast this morning they were reporting that BA had decided that all of their flights would implement the UK restriction so that they had a uniform approach. So, it isn't perhaps the TSA that is wrong per se, more that BA are keeping a higher level of security/restriction in place for the time being.

Hope that helps and safe flying.
Paul



One good turn takes the cover...
User currently offlineUKCO From United Kingdom, joined May 2006, 75 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 5721 times:

Quoting PHLJJS (Reply 2):
I believe it's up to the individual airline concerning flights to the UK. TSA has not issued any orders concering carry-ons except te liquid/gel ban. I do believe reading in the paper yesterday that BA and US were indeed banning carry-ons and electronic devices in the cabin and were waiving over weight/ excess baggage charges.

BA didn't give any straight answer yesterday to that question. They said it's up to local TSA. I'm not sure these guys are communicating. It's very frustrating how they are handling all of this. There are no clear guidelines besides no liquids/gels.


User currently offlinePHLJJS From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 417 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 5603 times:

I copied this from another thread. I think you are right as far as the lack of communication, but from what I have read in the news over the last couple of days, I'm led to believe it's stil up to the individual airline. If anyone else has differant information, please let us know. Herte is the latest info for US Airways:

There is a press release on US Airways' website that answers your questions:

US Airways Information Regarding Baggage and Ticket Policies for Customers Affected by United Kingdom Security Changes

TEMPE, Ariz., Aug. 10 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- US Airways (NYSE: LCC) has temporarily amended its ticket and baggage policies for customers affected by the United Kingdom security changes. The excess baggage fees will be waived for customers who are departing to or traveling from the United Kingdom (UK).

US Airways offers the following revised policies, which apply to all customers flying Aug. 10 through Sept. 1, 2006 with tickets purchased on or before Aug. 9 for travel between the following United Kingdom airports, Manchester, Glasgow, London Gatwick and U.S. airports on any US Airways or US Airways code share flight.

1. Passengers currently enroute who would like to make one change to
their return trip, rules and restrictions regarding standard change
fees, advance purchases, day or time applications, blackouts and
minimum or maximum stay requirements have been waived. Origin and
destination cities must remain the same. Reservations must be changed
prior to midnight of the ticketed travel date.

2. For passengers who have not yet begun their travel, one change to
their travel plans may be made without change fees or advance purchase
requirements for the same itinerary. Reservations must be changed
prior to midnight of the ticketed travel date.

3. Passengers may change their destination OR cancel their reservation,
however, all change fees and fare rules will apply if the reservation
has not been changed prior to midnight of the ticketed travel date.

4. Passengers traveling on a Dividend Miles award who request to cancel
their travel plans will receive a refund of the miles to the
applicable account with no reinstatement fee, OR allow for a change of
destination in correct redemption inventory.

For assistance with changing your travel plans contact reservations at 1-800-428-4322 within the United States or Canada. If you are calling from outside the United States or Canada, please go to http://www.usairways.com/awa/content/contact/reservations.aspx for international reservations contact information.

Additionally, US Airways is advising all passengers to arrive at the airport two hours before departure time for domestic flights and three hours before departure time for international flights.

For travel to/from the UK

Effective immediately all cabin baggage must be processed as checked baggage and carried in the hold of all passenger aircraft departing from or connecting through airports in the UK. This policy also applies to any aircraft departing the United States traveling to the UK.

The following measures apply to all passengers starting their journey at a UK airport and to those transferring between flights at a UK airport and from anywhere connecting in the US to the UK.

Nothing may be carried in passengers' pockets. Passengers may only take the following items through the airport security checkpoint, in a single (ideally transparent) plastic carrier bag:

* Pocket size wallets and pocket size purses plus contents (money, credit cards, identity cards, etc. but not handbags)
* Travel documents essential for the journey (passports and travel tickets)
* Prescription medicines and medical items sufficient and essential for the flight (a diabetic kit for example), except in liquid form unless verified as authentic.
* Eyeglasses and sunglasses, without cases
* Contact lens holders, without bottles of solution
* Female sanitary items sufficient and essential for the flight, if unboxed
* Tissues (unboxed) and/or handkerchiefs
* Keys (but no electrical key fobs)

For all flights:

NO LIQUIDS OR GELS OF ANY KIND WILL BE PERMITTED IN CARRY-ON BAGGAGE. ITEMS MUST BE IN CHECKED BAGGAGE. This includes all beverages, shampoo, suntan lotion, creams, tooth paste, hair gel, and other items of similar consistency.

Exception: Baby formula, breast milk, or juice if a baby or small child is traveling; prescription medicine with a name that matches the passenger's ticket; and insulin and essential other non-prescription medicines

* Beverages purchased in the sterile area must be consumed before boarding because they will not be permitted onboard the aircraft.

US Airways will continue to monitor the situation and adjust ticketing policies as needed. This press release and additional information on US Airways can be found at www.usairways.com.


User currently offlinePHLJJS From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 417 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 5594 times:

Here is the latest information from the TSA website. Banning carry-ons from the cabin is not a TSA mandate but a UK mandate. PLease pay close attention to the last two paragraphs.


TSA has changed security screening procedures at all U.S. airports, banning liquids and gels at security checkpoints and aboard flights. This means that you will not be permitted to bring any liquids or gels past the screening checkpoint or on board, with a few exceptions.

While we can not provide a comprehensive list of liquids that will and will not be permitted on board, the primary exceptions to this rule are:

*
Baby formula or breast milk when traveling with an infant
*
Prescription medication, provided the prescription matches the passenger's name
*
Certain essential non-prescription medication, such as insulin

While baby formula, breast milk, and certain medications will be permitted past the screening checkpoint and on board, please be aware that these items will be subject to physical inspection. You will not be required to taste these liquids in the presence of a security officer.

We suggest, to the fullest extent possible, that you pack all liquids and gels – including shampoo, toothpaste, perfume, hair gel, suntan lotion and all other items with similar consistency in your checked baggage to minimize any delays at the screening checkpoint.
Toothpaste, shown here, and all liquids and gels - including shampoo, perfume, hair gel, suntan lotion and all other items with similar consistency

Some solid or powdered cosmetics items are permitted past the checkpoint; however, this is left to the discretion of the security officer. To minimize delays and hassle, we recommend that you pack all cosmetics in your checked baggage.

Beverages purchased in the boarding area (beyond the screening checkpoint) will not be allowed on board, and must be consumed before boarding.

Laptop computers, cellular phones, iPods, and other portable electronic devices are still allowed on board an aircraft. These items must still be screened at the security checkpoint.

In the event a security officer identifies a prohibited item in your baggage, you will be required to either check that item with your checked baggage, or dispose of it at the checkpoint.

These polices apply to ALL domestic and international flights originating in the United States, including flights to the United Kingdom. For flights to the United Kingdom, TSA security officers will perform an additional physical inspection of all carry on baggage at the departure gate. For all other flights random gate inspections will be conducted.

Please note that for flights originating in the United Kingdom, local policies regarding carry on baggage will apply. These policies tend to be more stringent than United States policy. You may wish to check with you air carrier for additional details on United Kingdom requirements.


User currently offlineTACAA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 5563 times:

Does these rules apply for flights from Latina America to the U.S.A. and vice versa ?

I'm going to Grand Cayman and must go to MIA first [both ways]? I'm particular preoccupied about my laptop and digital camera.

Thanks.


User currently offlinePHLJJS From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 417 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 5523 times:

Quoting TACAA320 (Reply 7):
Does these rules apply for flights from Latina America to the U.S.A. and vice versa ?

I'm going to Grand Cayman and must go to MIA first [both ways]? I'm particular preoccupied about my laptop and digital camera.

No, you can are allowed to have a carry-on bag with you when travelling domestically with-in the US and on all international flights except those that are from the UK. US Airways and BA are also imposing carry-on restrictions on flight to the UK. The only thing you have to do on your flight to/from Grand Cayman is make sure ant liquids, gels, creams, pastes, lotions, make-up is packed in your checked bag and not your carry-on.


User currently offlineTACAA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 5332 times:

Quoting PHLJJS (Reply 8):

Thanks a lot for the info !


User currently offlineCRFLY From Costa Rica, joined Jan 2004, 197 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3683 times:

LAN Airlines procedures for flights to/from USA or Europe

Santiago, August 10th 2006

As a result of recent events, LAN informs our passengers that it has been agreed:

New procedures regarding safety measures for flights to/from USA and Europe:
LAN informs our passengers that the U.S. Transportation Security Administration (TSA) has implemented additional safety measures for commercial flights to and from the U.S. In order to facilitate the inspection process, LAN is asking passengers traveling to and from the United States for their cooperation in order to fulfill these requirements, including:

Traveling with light-weight luggage
Packing carry-on luggage with minimal clutter
Arriving to the airport with required anticipation

Passengers are not permitted to take any types of liquid or gel substances in their carry-on luggage, including beverages, creams and lotions, hair gels, shampoo, suntan lotion, toothpaste, or other items of similar consistency. These items must be placed in checked luggage.

Passengers are permitted to carry the following items in their carry-on baggage: baby formula, breast milk, or juice if a baby or small child is traveling; prescription medicine with a name that matches the passenger’s ticket; and insulin and other essential non-prescription medicines.



With Age comes Wisdom...
User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13115 posts, RR: 12
Reply 11, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3369 times:

I just saw on a news program the Director of DHS here in the USA Sunday, August 13 whom noted that there there will be an announce this afternoon as to adjustments in the TSA rules as to carry on items.
Probably this will make adjustments as to some of the borderline items being banned as well as some reasoned exemptions for medical and other reasons.


User currently offlineTACAA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3266 times:

http://www.tsa.gov/press/where_we_stand/threat.shtm

"The United States Government has raised the nation’s threat level for the aviation sector to:

* Code Red or Severe for flights originating in the United Kingdom bound for the United States.
* Code Orange or High for all commercial aviation operating in or destined for the United States.
* The rest of the country remains at Code Yellow.

Currently, there is no indication of plotting within the United States. We believe the arrests of extremists engaged in a substantial plot to destroy multiple passenger aircraft flying from the United Kingdom to the United States have significantly disrupted the threat, but we cannot be sure that the threat has been entirely eliminated or the plot completely thwarted.

Consistent with these higher threat levels, the Transportation Security Administration is implementing changes to airport screening procedures to include:
No liquids or gels of any kind will be permitted in carry-on baggage. Items must be in checked baggage.
The following items are important exceptions to these security mesaures.

*
Baby formula or breast milk if a baby or small child is traveling
*
Prescription medicine, insulin
*
Other essential non-prescription medicines.

Please note: Juice and jarred or prepared baby foods are not allowed in carry-on baggage and should be checked with your airline.

Travelers should also anticipate additional security measures within the airport and at screening checkpoints."

Taken from above link !


User currently offlinePHLJJS From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 417 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2884 times:

Quoting TACAA320 (Reply 12):
Please note: Juice and jarred or prepared baby foods are not allowed in carry-on baggage and should be checked with your airline.

That's a new one. I wonder how long that will last. What are parents of babies going to do at feeding time? Is milk or formula going to be enough?


User currently offlineRampart From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 3138 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2585 times:

Quoting TACAA320 (Reply 12):
*
Baby formula or breast milk if a baby or small child is traveling
*
Prescription medicine, insulin
*
Other essential non-prescription medicines.

Please note: Juice and jarred or prepared baby foods are not allowed in carry-on baggage and should be checked with your airline.

Travelers should also anticipate additional security measures within the airport and at screening checkpoints."

Taken from above link !

That's now incorrect, and it took me some effort to determine that. In a nutshell, I flew yesterday DEN-EWR on CO. Honestly, it was like any other travel day. Check in lines were brief, 10 minutes in the security line, and then we had 2 hours to kill. FORTUNATELY, we had babyfood, including jarred Gerber, a banana, and cheerios.

Naturally, I was concerned when I heard the same information. Continental gave me several different (inconsistent) stories, saying they were following TSA guidelines. TSA in Arlington, VA, talked to me, and said most foods, including babyfood, were allowed, but noted that the airlines are doing their own thing (!). Since I was most concerned about DEN, I called the TSA office at the airport. Amazingly, amidst the chaos on Friday, their head customer service person called me back! He told me that nobody really knew the true regulations, and that the default position was to restrict everything. But, he said that confiscating babyfood was irrational, and told me that some "sane" TSA reps on the floor might actually let it pass. At any rate, the condition appeared to be relaxed, and we passed no problem with all sorts of baby foods in our pack on Saturday. I have to say, TSA was very helpful and understanding.

We also saw a news item yesterday indicating that all babyfoods were allowed on international flights, too, and showed a picture of a harried mom at Heathrow with a ziploc bag of formula and a babyfood jar. Consistent with our experience.

Incidentally, concerning the question on electronics, we were allowed to pass with a digital video camera, I-pod, and the Elmo-phone! Of course, this was a domestic flight. Elmo might have banned on transatlantic. Most passengers probably wished that he was banned on ours, too.

-Rampart


User currently offlinePHLJJS From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 417 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2572 times:

Here is the new list of prohibbited items as of noon today.

Prohibited Items

Travel Tips to be Prepared for Enhanced Security

* Make Up and Personal Items
* Foods and Drinks
* Other Items

Due to enhanced security measures most liquids, gels, lotions and other items of similar consistency will not be permitted in carry-on baggage. These types of items must be packed in your checked baggage.

Liquids, gels and lotions can be purchased beyond the checkpoint but must be disposed of before boarding the aircraft.

Exceptions: Baby formula and breast milk if a baby or small child is traveling; prescription medicine with a name that matches the passenger’s ticket; up to 8 oz of liquid or gel insulin and up to 4 oz. of non-prescription liquid medications.

While we can not provide an exhaustive list of items, below are some of the most common. Please note, if you have questions or doubts on certain items, place those in your checked baggage. We strongly encourage travelers to read our full list of prohibited items to avoid hassle.

*
Learn more about our new security procedures
*
Learn more about the threat level change

Make Up and Personal Items

All creams and lotions (i.e. ointments, suntan lotion, topical creams)
Bug sprays
Bubble bath
Bubble bath balls (gel)
Eye drops/ gels
Gel deodorants (solid stick is permitted)
Gel caps
Hair styling gels
Hair sprays, including aerosols
Hair straightener or detangler
Lip gels
Lip glosses / liquids (solid lip glosses and blushes are permitted)
Liquid foundations
Liquid medications (up to 4 oz.of non-essential)
Liquid sanitizers
Liquid soaps (bar soap is permitted)
Nail polishes, such as those shown here, are now prohibited from the security checkpoint and in your carry-on baggage. Make up removers / facial cleansers
Mascara
Mouthwash
Nail polish
Nail polish removers
Perfumes / colognes
Saline solutions
Toothpaste

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Foods and Drinks

All beverages (excluding formula/breast milk)
Camelbaks,similar backpacks and water bottles must be empty
Gel based sports supplements
Jellos
Puddings
Yogurts (or gel like substances)

Note: Baby food is permitted

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Other Items

Baby teethers (with gel or liquid inside)
Children’s toys with gel inside
Gel candles
Gel shoe inserts

LIGHTERS ARE STILL PROHIBITED in both carry-on and checked baggage.

NOTE: Shoes with gel heels are allowed but must to removed and screened.


User currently offlineAvatordon From United States of America, joined May 2006, 239 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2437 times:

All aboard.....AMTRAK

User currently offlineTACAA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2414 times:

You can still carry your iPod onboard  Smile
http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtravel/assistant/new-procedures.shtm


User currently offlineJ_Hallgren From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1507 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2400 times:

Quoting PHLJJS (Reply 15):
Baby teethers (with gel or liquid inside)

Let's hope one never gets stuck near an infant needing his/her teether! Talk about a noisy flight...



COBOL - Not a dead language yet!
User currently offlinePHLJJS From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 417 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2297 times:

Quoting J_Hallgren (Reply 18):
Let's hope one never gets stuck near an infant needing his/her teether! Talk about a noisy flight...

I'm with you on that one. Especially flights to Florida. Multiple screaming babies.


User currently offlineWdleiser From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 961 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2236 times:

I have been away from my computer and tv and newspaper for 2 weeks and this has got to be the most stupid thing the TSA has ever done. I honestly must now say I am ashamed of the TSA. All America seems to be now is paranoia.

User currently offlinePHLJJS From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 417 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2174 times:

Quoting Wdleiser (Reply 20):
I have been away from my computer and tv and newspaper for 2 weeks and this has got to be the most stupid thing the TSA has ever done. I honestly must now say I am ashamed of the TSA. All America seems to be now is paranoia.

It is either do this or test every passenger and thier bag for explosives. Can you imagine the back up that would cause? Or would you rather we take it a step further and ban all carry-ons and electronics like the UK? This is temporary and yes it is reactionary. Accoding to British authorities, they don't have everyone is custody and this thing invloves more than 24 people. There are machines out there that will easily detect the threat items very easily and quickly, but as is always the case, they cost huge amounts of money. Once this threat passes, we will go back to the way it was before Thursday and look at how things went during this time of high alert and learn how to adapt things to make them better and easier and hopefully spend our money on the new technology that will make the next threat go by much faster and easier.


User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12146 posts, RR: 51
Reply 22, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2152 times:

Quoting PHLJJS (Reply 6):
Some solid or powdered cosmetics items are permitted past the checkpoint; however, this is left to the discretion of the security officer.

What????? Now we are going to put up with a TSA Agent ATEMPTING to think about it and make an INTELLEGENT decision?  boggled 

Quoting TACAA320 (Reply 12):
Please note: Juice and jarred or prepared baby foods are not allowed in carry-on baggage and should be checked with your airline.



Quoting PHLJJS (Reply 15):
Note: Baby food is permitted

 banghead 

TSA Agent "of course you can have baby food for your baby, you just cannot take it on board with you".  confused 

New TSA rule next week;
All baby food, baby formular, and brest milk will be allowed on the aircraft. But, your baby will not be allowed on the aircraft.
 headache 


User currently offlinePHLJJS From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 417 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2133 times:

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 22):
What????? Now we are going to put up with a TSA Agent ATEMPTING to think about it and make an INTELLEGENT decision? boggled



Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 22):
TSA Agent "of course you can have baby food for your baby, you just cannot take it on board with you". confused

New TSA rule next week;
All baby food, baby formular, and brest milk will be allowed on the aircraft. But, your baby will not be allowed on the aircraft.

It's funny how you can make an assertion that a TSA agent can't make an intelligent decision, but you can't spell the word breast correctly. In fact, if you bothered to run spell check, you'd find 4 spelling errors in your statements.


User currently offlinePHLJJS From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 417 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2133 times:

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 22):
What????? Now we are going to put up with a TSA Agent ATEMPTING to think about it and make an INTELLEGENT decision? boggled



Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 22):
TSA Agent "of course you can have baby food for your baby, you just cannot take it on board with you". confused

New TSA rule next week;
All baby food, baby formular, and brest milk will be allowed on the aircraft. But, your baby will not be allowed on the aircraft.

It's funny how you can make an assertion that a TSA agent can't make an intelligent decision, but you can't spell the word breast correctly. In fact, if you bothered to run spell check, you'd find 4 spelling errors in your statements.


25 Brilondon : I am all for this one
26 LTBEWR : This may not be so far-fetched. On of the junk tabloid UK newspapers had a front page headline/story Sunday that allegadly at least one of the potent
27 Bri2k1 : Hey, I think you're on to something. We would have guaranteed 100% safety if NO ONE was allowed on board! And then, the TSA would have a much clearer
28 Post contains links TACAA320 : " August 13, 2006 (571) 227-2829 SECURITY LEVEL REMAINS THE SAME, TSA REFINES AND CLARIFIES BAN * Small doses of liquid medications permitted * Shoes
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