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EK DXB-NGO...how Is It Going?  
User currently offlineCentrair From Japan, joined Jan 2005, 3598 posts, RR: 20
Posted (8 years 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 4730 times:

I know some people get annoyed with these types of threads but I am really curious.

EK started this in June with a 777-200ER and will upgrade in the fall to an A340-500 (because of the first class seating). I know that they are hauling a lot of cargo as well.

But how are the loads and does it really need to be upgraded to an A340-500?


Yes...I am not a KIX fan. Let's Japanese Aviation!
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User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 60
Reply 1, posted (8 years 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 4718 times:

You could ask TinkerBelle, he's going to be taking that flight in the fall....






"Up the Irons!"
User currently offlineNWAatNGO From Japan, joined May 2004, 48 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 4692 times:

The OL from my office just took the flight last Friday and will be back early next week so I will ask her how the loads were. I have also talked with a few others who have taken the flight, so I will try to get some 'unofficial' info for you as soon as I can.

I know I have enjoyed flying into NGO at night and seeing the beautiful bird sitting there on the tarmac. I hope it works out for them because I look forward to taking this flight the next time I need to get to Europe.

NWAatNGO


User currently offlineEmirates777 From Tanzania, joined Feb 2000, 655 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (8 years 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 4678 times:

Effective 1 September the NGO service will be upgraded to a B777-300ER -- with the aircraft featuring the new lie flat business class seat. The route will be serviced exclusively by A6-EBQ and A6-EBR. From the end of October the flight will switch over to the A340-500.

Rgds
Emirates777


User currently offlineCentrair From Japan, joined Jan 2005, 3598 posts, RR: 20
Reply 4, posted (8 years 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 4583 times:

Quoting Emirates777 (Reply 3):
Effective 1 September the NGO service will be upgraded to a B777-300ER -- with the aircraft featuring the new lie flat business class seat. The route will be serviced exclusively by A6-EBQ and A6-EBR. From the end of October the flight will switch over to the A340-500.

Ooh that is new. The original release was that it would go from 777-200 to A345...now we get a 777-300ER great.

So the demand must be high enough for such a large plane. Do they have a contract from someone like Toyota?



Yes...I am not a KIX fan. Let's Japanese Aviation!
User currently offlineTinkerBelle From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 4566 times:

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 1):
You could ask TinkerBelle, he's going to be taking that flight in the fall....

He hee, good one. I wish I was taking that flight but actually, I'm taking the DXB-NBO, not NGO. You gotta forward me that pic of me so that I can start using it  biggrin 


User currently offlineUpperDeck79 From Finland, joined Feb 2005, 1139 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (8 years 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 4531 times:

Quoting NWAatNGO (Reply 2):
I look forward to taking this flight the next time I need to get to Europe.

Oh you should take AY to Europe from NGO. So much more options to fly to in Europe! And a much faster route.  Wink

Quoting Centrair (Reply 4):
So the demand must be high enough for such a large plane. Do they have a contract from someone like Toyota?

Actually AY has a contract to take Toyota staff from NGO to LED via HEL and back... Wink Toyota has a factory or something near LED nowadays.

Does anybody know how AY is doing with the route? At least here in Finland they have been giving some special deals for the route, like 499 euros return from HEL.



AY and ANA rock!
User currently offlineOrlando666 From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 168 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 4420 times:

with each aircraft comes a different seat type especially in J/F. This inconsistency & changes - as opposed to a constant leading product will not be taken well by the Japanese Premium Class market. Japan market does not like surprises or substitutions, they have low tolerance for that.

User currently offlineCentrair From Japan, joined Jan 2005, 3598 posts, RR: 20
Reply 8, posted (8 years 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4365 times:

So if AY got the Toyota Contract for Europe (I think they got a few others) what did EK get? Is it for Toyota traffic going to Kenya or South Africa?

Quoting Orlando666 (Reply 7):
This inconsistency & changes - as opposed to a constant leading product will not be taken well by the Japanese Premium Class market. Japan market does not like surprises or substitutions, they have low tolerance for that.

I never knew this. Is there a huge difference between the 777-200ER and 777-300ER First? Why is the A345 First different?



Yes...I am not a KIX fan. Let's Japanese Aviation!
User currently offlineTinkerBelle From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4351 times:

Quoting Centrair (Reply 8):
Is it for Toyota traffic going to Kenya or South Africa?

Why Kenya???


User currently offlineCentrair From Japan, joined Jan 2005, 3598 posts, RR: 20
Reply 10, posted (8 years 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4309 times:

Quoting TinkerBelle (Reply 9):
Why Kenya???

Toyota has...well have something in Kenya. Produces Land Cruisers I think.

Toyota Worldwide Manufacturing
Associated Vehicle Assemblers Ltd. established Aug. 1977 making 1700 Land Cruisers per year. 360 Employees

But it is not that important.

I wonder what is driving the EK flights in NGO. If not Toyota...then what? Can't be the ultimate rich flying first to hang out in Dubai. The Chubu region is not that wealthy. Fairly middle to upper-middle class area.



Yes...I am not a KIX fan. Let's Japanese Aviation!
User currently offlineTinkerBelle From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 4291 times:

Quoting Centrair (Reply 10):
Toyota has...well have something in Kenya. Produces Land Cruisers I think.

Makes sense although not enough to warrant the flight.

Quoting Centrair (Reply 10):
I wonder what is driving the EK flights in NGO. If not Toyota...then what? Can't be the ultimate rich flying first to hang out in Dubai. The Chubu region is not that wealthy. Fairly middle to upper-middle class area.

I believe there's a lot of business between the two countries. Don't forget most if not all countries in Africa import Japanese cars from Japan via Dubai. Not that it'd warrant a daily flight but just an example.


User currently offlineUpperDeck79 From Finland, joined Feb 2005, 1139 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (8 years 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 4286 times:

Quoting Centrair (Reply 10):
I wonder what is driving the EK flights in NGO. If not Toyota...then what?

The non-existence of NRT slots? Big grin



AY and ANA rock!
User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 60
Reply 13, posted (8 years 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4170 times:

Quoting TinkerBelle (Reply 5):
He hee, good one. I wish I was taking that flight but actually, I'm taking the DXB-NBO, not NGO. You gotta forward me that pic of me so that I can start using it  biggrin 

duh...silly me.. crazy ....


we've only discussed this on instant message a billion times... footinmouth 

the link for the photo is....

http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/407/tinkerbelle5do.jpg

you can easily save the file by right clicking it......you got my permission to use it as much as you like... Wink



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