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US Airways E190 Routes?  
User currently offlineHPRamper From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4103 posts, RR: 8
Posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 8514 times:

We know the new E-190s will be based at PHL and according to our employee newsletter, they will mainly be used for flights in the 400-500 mile range (underutilized for sure but ups possible frequencies). What we really haven't talked about are possible E-190 routes.

A huge chunk of American (and Canadian, for that matter) population is within 500 miles around PHL so there are tons of possibilities.
I'm thinking:
YUL
YOW
ORF
GSO
RIC
PWM
BTV
CMH
BUF
AVL
ROC
SYR
ALB
PVD? to start.
Possibly CRW depending on demand?
Also, I see US possibly opening LEX and CAK from PHL as they currently are only served from CLT...maybe TRI - wishful thinking  crossfingers 
I was also mulling over the idea of a quasi-shuttle service PIT-PHL for at least part of the day. US has said no new stations will be opened with the aircraft, I think an interesting idea would be to keep PHL to mainline flights from only over 400 miles away + the shuttle flights, while inside the 400 mile zone the E190s would eventually carry the bulk of pax...is this possible? Would this be better or worse for PHL? I'm thinking the frequency of flights would increase, but things like turnaround time would be faster, and fewer rampers would be needed per flight. Cancellations would also be easier to deal with as there are simply fewer pax per flight to rebook or accomodate.

I'm also highly interested in what will happen with the aircraft freed up by the increased capacity. Open up YHZ anyone?

I dunno, I'm bored and it's been on my mind today  Smile

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User currently offlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6784 posts, RR: 17
Reply 1, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 8492 times:

I could see a bunch of the markets that used to have only 737 which now only see for the most part RJ service transitioning to E90..

I don't know what markets.. but I would have to think that ORF would need to get upgraded from the almost all RJ service it has.. If it doesn't, then US is just crazy... ORF used to be a high market share US market..



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User currently offlineN757ST From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 384 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 8471 times:

Routes that have already been announced are BDL and PVD- PHL

User currently offlineHPRamper From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4103 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 8459 times:

How fast will US receive these aircraft? Are they coming in one big chunk or one by one over a period of months?

User currently offlineYOW From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 8451 times:

Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 1):
I could see a bunch of the markets that used to have only 737 which now only see for the most part RJ service transitioning to E90..

YOW used to be a 737/DC-9 only market, but it's been all-RJ for over 5 years now. Would be nice to see the E190 here.


User currently offlineApodino From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 4304 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 8431 times:

Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 1):
don't know what markets.. but I would have to think that ORF would need to get upgraded from the almost all RJ service it has.. If it doesn't, then US is just crazy... ORF used to be a high market share US market..

The only problem with that is that Air wisconsin has both a crew base and a MX base in ORF. If US made this a primary mainline station, they would have to pay ZW money to move the MX and Crew base somewhere else. Personally, I believe that PIT and CLT should have MX bases for ZW, especially PIT, where the local MX can't do anything really to repair planes.


User currently offlineANITIX87 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 3308 posts, RR: 13
Reply 6, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 8390 times:
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Come on, US, bring it to ABE in place of the 319!!!

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User currently offlineHPRamper From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4103 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 8368 times:

Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 6):
Come on, US, bring it to ABE in place of the 319!!!

The 319 is out of CLT though so the 190 won't have anything to do with that, for the moment. I'm a little surprised that ABE even gets a single mainline flight being so close to PHL.


User currently offlineDAYflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3807 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 8368 times:

DAY should see one or two a day since the CRJ-200 & 700 are selling out even with higher freq.


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User currently offlineCentPIT From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 990 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 8326 times:

Quoting Apodino (Reply 5):
Personally, I believe that PIT and CLT should have MX bases for ZW, especially PIT, where the local MX can't do anything really to repair planes.

This makes sense...



The E90s will be main-line right? I am sure PHL-PIT and PHL-CLT will see the aircraft! PHL-PIT sees just about everything! Because the aircraft will be based in PHL, does this mean than PIT and CLT won't see any routes from the E90?



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User currently offlineOphila From St. Kitts and Nevis, joined May 2006, 110 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 8291 times:

These are several routes that you could except from Philly:
ATL
GSO
RDU
PWM
YUL
DTW
CMH
IND
DAY
ORD
IAH
AUS-new
DFW
MSY
FPO-new
NAS-possiblity out DCA & LGA weekends
SDF
MEM
BNA
SAV
CHS


User currently offlineYULYMX From Canada, joined May 2006, 977 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 8263 times:

BDA could also be made

User currently offlineHPRamper From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4103 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 8253 times:

I forgot there has also been talk of bringing back DAB. However, I was only going over possibilities inside that 500 mile circle.

Quoting CentPIT (Reply 9):
Because the aircraft will be based in PHL, does this mean than PIT and CLT won't see any routes from the E90?

Not AT FIRST but it won't take too long, IMO. The aircraft is just too versatile to keep them all at PHL.

Quoting Ophila (Reply 10):
AUS-new

AUS is currently only served by HP. I would think they would wait to start up PHL-AUS until the computer systems are integrated, which they are saying will be sometime 1Q 2007. Granted, the E190 is only going to start flying in December...but yes, AUS is badly needed from US on the east coast, as well as SAT.

Where did you get that information?


User currently offlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6784 posts, RR: 17
Reply 13, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 8253 times:

Quoting Ophila (Reply 10):
These are several routes that you could except from Philly:
ATL
GSO
RDU
PWM
YUL
DTW
CMH
IND
DAY
ORD
IAH
AUS-new
DFW
MSY
FPO-new
NAS-possiblity out DCA & LGA weekends
SDF
MEM
BNA
SAV
CHS

Alot of these do not fall into the 500 mile rule (ATL, ORD, IAH, AUS, DFW, MSY, FPO, NAS, SAV, CHS). probably, once you get past North Carolina and Indiana (?).. you are out of the range from PHL. BDA falls within or just slightly outside of the range but could be doable..



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User currently offlineFlyCMH From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 2287 posts, RR: 10
Reply 14, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 8244 times:

USAirways definitely needs to get a larger aircraft going between CMH and PHL, be it an E90, 733, 319, etc. Ever since Southwest began service between the two cities and USAirways matched their fares accordingly, the latter's flights are constantly overbooked. Also, while the 190s will be mainline operated, Republic's maintenance facility in CMH could be of use if a maintenance issue were to arise on a flight. Preferably, I would like to see at least one morning flight and one afternoon flight upgraded to larger aircraft; the morning for business travelers and the afternoon for the international connections out of Philly.

User currently offlineOphila From St. Kitts and Nevis, joined May 2006, 110 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 8244 times:

Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 13):
Alot of these do not fall into the 500 mile rule (ATL, ORD, IAH, AUS, DFW, MSY, FPO, NAS, SAV, CHS). probably, once you get past North Carolina and Indiana (?).. you are out of the range from PHL. BDA falls within or just slightly outside of the range but could be doable..

I am not considering the range restrictions in the newsletter but the profit margin


User currently offlineYULYMX From Canada, joined May 2006, 977 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 8231 times:

Well within range of BDA

From Air canada fleet

AC E190
Joined the fleet 2006
Number of Aircraft 6
Manufacturer Embraer
Engines CF34-10E5A1
Cruise Speed 811 km/h (504 mph)
Range 3,540 km (2,200 miles)
Cruise Altitude 10,670 m. (35,000')
Cargo Capacity 1,502 kilos (3,311 lbs)
Fuel Capacity 16,209 l. (4,234 usg)
Length of Aircraft 36.2 m. (118' 11")
Wing Span 26 m. (85' 4")
Height 10.6 m. (34' 8")


User currently offlineOphila From St. Kitts and Nevis, joined May 2006, 110 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 8208 times:

Quoting YULYMX (Reply 16):
AC E190
Joined the fleet 2006
Number of Aircraft 6
Manufacturer Embraer
Engines CF34-10E5A1
Cruise Speed 811 km/h (504 mph)
Range 3,540 km (2,200 miles)
Cruise Altitude 10,670 m. (35,000')
Cargo Capacity 1,502 kilos (3,311 lbs)
Fuel Capacity 16,209 l. (4,234 usg)
Length of Aircraft 36.2 m. (118' 11")
Wing Span 26 m. (85' 4")
Height 10.6 m. (34' 8")

The 190 could be used on routes like slc and abq if they are allocated properly. Considering AC utilizes their Ejets from YYZ-PHX


User currently offlineYULYMX From Canada, joined May 2006, 977 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 8186 times:

E190 Could reach from PHL-SJU,GCM,STT,SXM, even AUA if you push it a little

User currently offlineOphila From St. Kitts and Nevis, joined May 2006, 110 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 8169 times:

Single Departure availability Saturday 16 September 06

** STX ST CROIX ISL.VI 32 SA 16SEP
DL (S5) 6444 (e) ATL (S) 09:55a STX (-) 1:39p 3:44 E70


User currently offlineYULYMX From Canada, joined May 2006, 977 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 8155 times:

If the E70 can do it the E90 has better range

User currently offlineCentPIT From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 990 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 8059 times:

Quoting YULYMX (Reply 20):
If the E70 can do it the E90 has better range

Will the E90s be mainline?



Quick question: Who is operating the E75 for US? Republic Airways?



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User currently offlineHPRamper From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4103 posts, RR: 8
Reply 22, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 8056 times:

Quoting CentPIT (Reply 21):
Will the E90s be mainline?

Mainline.

Quoting Ophila (Reply 17):
The 190 could be used on routes like slc and abq if they are allocated properly. Considering AC utilizes their Ejets from YYZ-PHX

I'd agree. SLC, ABQ, AUS, SAT and ELP.


User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 23, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 8026 times:

Quoting CentPIT (Reply 21):
Who is operating the E75 for US? Republic Airways?

Yes, Republic will be flying the E175's.



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User currently offlineStirling From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 3943 posts, RR: 21
Reply 24, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 7974 times:

Quoting YULYMX (Reply 16):
AC E190
Joined the fleet 2006
Number of Aircraft 6
Manufacturer Embraer
Engines CF34-10E5A1
Cruise Speed 811 km/h (504 mph)
Range 3,540 km (2,200 miles)
Cruise Altitude 10,670 m. (35,000')
Cargo Capacity 1,502 kilos (3,311 lbs)
Fuel Capacity 16,209 l. (4,234 usg)
Length of Aircraft 36.2 m. (118' 11")
Wing Span 26 m. (85' 4")
Height 10.6 m. (34' 8")

Looks like a 737-200....with better gas mileage.
It is 100' feet long, wingspan 93' feet, could fly 2,000nm, with a hair over 100 pax, but using over twice as much fuel.
The E90 is also a nicer looking bird in my opinion.



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25 HPRamper : The US E-190s will be in a 100-seat config. 88 coach and 11 FC, which is a high ratio compared to many fullsize mainline aircraft but should do well f
26 Post contains images Steeler83 : HAHAHAHA A rebirth of a fabulous aircraft, only cleaner and quieter Damn, I didn't see any smilies for the peace sign...
27 CentPIT : Thank you EMBQA! Thank you HPRamper! Will the E75s be getting MX work in PIT like the E70s?
28 Post contains images Steeler83 : Those might go to CMH or IND, but don't quote me on that! It would be cool to see those birds come to PIT for mx though...
29 FCYTravis : I woudl expect to see the E175s on that route...
30 EXAAUADL : American public schools at their best.
31 Captaink : You think they would use those E190s on the PHL/LGA route? Aside from the smaller ERJs and Dashs that fly the route they also have a one or two airbii
32 Post contains images HPRamper : Hey now, I copied and pasted that info. Don't shoot the messenger. I should have caught it though, since (duh) one of the money-savers for US will be
33 MD90fan : DCA-SRQ is one. .
34 CentPIT : PHL-LGA as of August 21, 2006: (4 daily DH8) (2 CRJ) (4 ERJ) 10 daily flights, NO mainline? I am not sure if you were thinking of BOS?
35 Flyb : I hope they do expand the 500mile rule, these aircraft have such potential for thinner markets. Look at how A/C uses it on the Calgary-Newark route. U
36 TOLtommy : CAK-PHL is 3x daily. Has been served since CAK-PIT was eliminated. All ZW CRJ's on the route. From what I've heard, loads are decent, but yields are
37 NoBoeingNoGoin : I just don't understand the CLT-ABE route. Everyday at work I look at this flight and it is never booked more than 60!!! Ah, why can't TYS get a mainl
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