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User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4392 posts, RR: 12
Posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 8482 times:

I'll be flying KLM, JFK-AMS in two days, and one of my checked bags ( A GIFT) is a 33 lbs. box. Total dimensions 63". KLMs allowance is 62". I called NWA/KLM last night and the customer service rep. told me that it should be OK, but if they happen to be very strict, it will cost me $125. And also she told me that the flight will be almost full, still 20 seats avail.
What do you guys suggest? Should I take my chances? Should I arrive early at the airport? ( Duuuh!) Should I try to somehow squeeze the box? (Not recommended)
Thanks for your ideas.

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User currently offlineRichPhitzwell From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 8451 times:

Missed my weight allowance on my business return by 6lbs this weekend. Reason, my installers left a tool in my bag... you can risk it and they may be nice...but man up if your caught.

User currently offlineRamerinianAir From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1486 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 8394 times:

How exactly would they measure the dimensions. I have a bag that is EXACTLY 62" when I measure it.
Thanks,
SR



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User currently offlineHiflyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2167 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 8337 times:

Quoting RamerinianAir (Reply 2):
How exactly would they measure the dimensions

Most carriers have tape measures at the counter now with the increased attention being paid on excess luggage. However...if it is just an inch I would suspect it to be waved as is one pound routinely. If worse to worse tell them it is due to accomadating carryon baggage due the new restrictions...a lot of carriers have waivers to their frontline troops on this...not a lot...not all carriers...but it is out there.


User currently offlineOutlier From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 8331 times:

Quoting TK787 (Thread starter):
I'll be flying KLM, JFK-AMS in two days, and one of my checked bags ( A GIFT) is a 33 lbs. box. ... be very strict, it will cost me $125.

Ya just can't get somethin for nothin these days..

I say chance it.


User currently offlineAUA747 From Aruba, joined Jul 2006, 136 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 8315 times:

It will depends if it is going to be your lucky day or not. I know that KLM agents in AMS can be very strict. Especially with overweight etc. It all depends on the agent you get at the counter.

User currently offlineAussieindc From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 437 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 8129 times:

Totally up to yourself but unless someone in JFK is going to be anal, I personally would chance it. After all, it's only 33lbs and it's not as if it won't fit into the containers.

User currently offlineCadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 31
Reply 7, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 8122 times:

Id say chance it. I was flying back to BDL and in AUA we had one bag at 56 pounds and another at 43. I asked if it was ok for me to move stuff around to make it fit. But he just slapped a heavy tag on it and sent me on my way. Nice guy.


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User currently offlineYellekc From United States of America, joined May 2006, 30 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 8070 times:

In my experience, if it is one or two pounds or inches over the limit, they let it slide. I once had a box that was close to 70 inches and CO let me check it in with no charge. I had the cash waiting expecting to be charged, but it was very light (15 pounds max) so that may have been a mitigating factor. The lengh restrictions often bother me more than the weight, cause I can balance the weight out between 2 suitcases, but if I need to move something large, I can't exactly break it in half and put the pieces in separate suitcases.

If the service rep at the check-in counter does not charge you for overweight or over-lengh baggage by mistake, could the airlines then charge you at the baggage claim, or do they just forget about the charge?


User currently offlineUsAirways16bwi From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1004 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 7886 times:

my luggage is almost always overweight, just by a few lbs even. The thing to do is go to curbside check in, before the guy weighs the bag, slip him a few dollars. It has always worked for me. But i always give them a tip anyways....

User currently offlineAUA747 From Aruba, joined Jul 2006, 136 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 7537 times:

Quoting UsAirways16bwi (Reply 9):
The thing to do is go to curbside check in, before the guy weighs the bag, slip him a few dollars. It has always worked for me.

If you are flying international you can not do curbside check-in


User currently offlineFXramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7191 posts, RR: 86
Reply 11, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 7017 times:
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My last huge European trek (4 weeks hiking in 2004) my bags were overweight and at LHR we had to through clothes away. The CSA at the BA counter was so nice, weighing our bags 4 times till we made the weight exactly.

On the other hand, my best friend and his wife moved back from New Zealand after a years stay (2005) and were overweight on their bags and the Air New Zealand CSA said no big deal and didn't charge them an overage fee.

I wouldn't risk it!  twocents   bouncy 


User currently offlineVarigB707 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 6209 times:

Quoting TK787 (Thread starter):
$125

Well, assume you will have to pay that or even get denied to check in the bag. Why take your chances? Send it by Fedex or UPS. It'll cost less. Maybe.
Just a thought.
Good luck.


User currently offlineATLTraveler From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 44 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 5623 times:

My parents were travelling via Delta to Delhi. There bags were overweight by .5 to 1 lbs each. The guy at the counter insisted on them being 50 or below. He said he would be back in 5 minutes while they took the time to take stuff out. Very rude...but thats the way things are I guess...Living in Atlanta, I fly Delta a lot and am ok with it generally...

User currently offlineJetdeltamsy From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 2987 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 5521 times:

Quoting TK787 (Thread starter):
Should I try to somehow squeeze the box? (

You're at the mercy of the agent that checks you in.

EVERY airline is doing everything possible to maximize revenue.

If you like to play things safe, I'd repack it.



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User currently offlineAviationwiz From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 962 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 4833 times:

Quoting VarigB707 (Reply 12):
Well, assume you will have to pay that or even get denied to check in the bag. Why take your chances? Send it by Fedex or UPS. It'll cost less. Maybe.

I just took out my UPS book and took a look. From the East Coast to the Netherlands is upwards of $210 for 4 day delivery on a 33 pounder. Best bet is to take it with, and just to be aware that they may charge extra.



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User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4392 posts, RR: 12
Reply 16, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 4772 times:

Thanks everyone,
I will try to post what happens tomorrow or the next day.
Fingers crossed.


User currently offlineLiedetectors From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 360 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 4202 times:

Quoting TK787 (Thread starter):
What do you guys suggest?

Why dont you simpily check it plane side?



If it was said by us, then it must be true.
User currently offlineJetdeltamsy From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 2987 posts, RR: 8
Reply 18, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3108 times:

Quoting Liedetectors (Reply 17):
Why dont you simpily check it plane side?

The dimension of gate checks is even less...something like 45".



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User currently offlineRDUDDJI From Lesotho, joined Jun 2004, 1456 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2961 times:

Quoting Aussieindc (Reply 6):
Totally up to yourself but unless someone in JFK is going to be anal, I personally would chance it. After all, it's only 33lbs and it's not as if it won't fit into the containers.

But it likely won't fit into the sortation system...and it will take the TSA longer to screen and the ramp longer to load (OK, I'm being the Devil's Advocate).



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User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4392 posts, RR: 12
Reply 20, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2761 times:

Here is the latest,
I decided to take with me a big box, tape, and a piece of cord that is exactly 158cm. If they won't accept it, I will try to divide it into two boxes, and cut the original box to below total 62", and hope it all fits. So I will end up having two big boxes. That is OK, since I really don't have any other stuff besides my carry-on.
More soon.


User currently offlineAussieindc From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 437 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2619 times:

Quoting RDUDDJI (Reply 19):
Quoting Aussieindc (Reply 6):
Totally up to yourself but unless someone in JFK is going to be anal, I personally would chance it. After all, it's only 33lbs and it's not as if it won't fit into the containers.

But it likely won't fit into the sortation system...and it will take the TSA longer to screen and the ramp longer to load (OK, I'm being the Devil's Advocate).

No different to oversized luggage such as golf clubs, surf boards etc. I took my clubs to Jamaica with me recently and it didn't take any longer to receive them upon arrival into MBJ.


User currently offlineF9fan From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 696 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2540 times:

On a recent F9 flight, I was overweight by 0.5 pounds. The agent was nice enough to let it slide by without the overage fee, especially since I would have just slipped a couple pairs of socks into my wife's suitcase.

F9Fan


User currently offlineHiflyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2167 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2517 times:

Understand a couple of things
Most airlines have stopped any waiver on charging for overweight and piece count that was in place after the first day of the LHR incident.

The overweight/oversize charge in the US is being closely monitored by TSA and FAA...failure to comply is being fined when caught. No heavy tag and the carrier is fined, if caught, and the agent is be disciplined in accord with their respective company procedures.

Why? FAA attributes over 50 pound baggage without notice as a possible cause in an aircraft incident...namely the USAir express at CLT. Their investigation has revealed far more baggage is heavier than the original 24 pound industry standard 20 years ago.

Is it fair? Should you complain? To the FAA if you wish but stop beating up the skycap or checkin agent...


User currently offlineFoxecho From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 746 posts, RR: 17
Reply 24, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2481 times:

Overweight bags started when wheels went on the suitcases, ie Super large "roll aboards"

Andrew
JFK/MEM/MCI



..uh, we'll need that to live......
25 Tod : I've had oversized luggage (72 inch long aircraft tubing in box) miss flights when all my other luggage made it. That said, most of the time oversize
26 TK787 : Here is final episode. I arrived at JFK at 3pm, for the 6:10pm departure. It was a bit crazy around the self check-in eticket counters, but it went qu
27 Pilotaydin : gimme a break a friggin inch lol whatever happened to error....there's plus or minus 1 inch in most things, why not here?
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