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UA Flight Diverted To BOS Due To Security  
User currently offlineFURUREFA From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 802 posts, RR: 2
Posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 13435 times:

Just heard it on WHDH in BOS, a UA flight 923 (763) from LHR-IAD was diverted and landed in BOS due to a security "disturbance". A woman is bound and isolated at the back of the plane and 3 passengers had a confrontation with the flight crew. Those passengers had suspicious items in their baggage aswell. Hope all goes well!

Matt

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User currently offlineJ_Hallgren From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1507 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 13387 times:

Lady had vaseline, screwdriver, matches, and note about al-quida (spelling?) according to WHDH now...

[Edited 2006-08-16 16:43:30]

Update: Now reporting that they had fighter jet escort inbound..
Just posting what I'm hearing on Ch 7...

[Edited 2006-08-16 16:51:58]


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User currently offlineRoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9651 posts, RR: 52
Reply 2, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 13298 times:

Quoting J_Hallgren (Reply 1):
Lady had vaseline, screwdriver, matches, and note about al-quida (spelling?) according to WHDH now...

If that is serious, how on earth could those find their way on a plane from LHR with all the security procedures now in place.



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User currently offlineTheSorcerer From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 1048 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 13215 times:

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 2):

Well supposedly some boy walked through gatwick security without a passport and without getting screened at all.

Dominic



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User currently offlineRobbie86 From Sweden, joined May 2006, 537 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 13215 times:

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 2):
If that is serious, how on earth could those find their way on a plane from LHR with all the security procedures now in place.

Good question. But I just saw a article about a 12 year old boy who boarded a flight from LGW to Lisbon, Portugal without a tocket or passport. So nothing is impossible.



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User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 5, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 13215 times:

A Logan spokesman said three passengers had a confrontation with the flight crew. State Police took control of the plane after it landed. All the passengers were being taken off the plane and their carry-on luggage was being checked, said spokesman Phil Orlandella.

Source.

It's a short article, but more should be to come soon.


User currently offlineCptSpeaking From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 639 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 13215 times:

reported now that the lady was claustrphobic and "could not control herself"

This is supposedly from a Boston FBI agent

Your CptSpeaking



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User currently offlineAAFLT1871 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2333 posts, RR: 10
Reply 7, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 13215 times:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14375133/


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User currently offlineRJpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 13215 times:

Fox has live coverage of the United 767 sitting on runway 15R with lots of emergency vehicles near it.

User currently offlineMattRB From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 1624 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 13158 times:

Quoting J_Hallgren (Reply 1):
Lady had vaseline, screwdriver, matches, and note about al-quida (spelling?) according to WHDH now...

Confirmed or is this just more sensationalistic reporting?

I find it hard to believe give the current state of things at LHR that she had those things on her.



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User currently offlineJetpixx From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 857 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 13111 times:

Unbelieveable...matches, a screwdriver and vaseline...it is almost not even worth it to fly, as things go relaxed for a couple of days and some imbecile ruins it for everyone else. What is wrong with people and how the hell did this get through security at LHR?

User currently offlineJ_Hallgren From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1507 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 13111 times:

I'm not attempting to confirm anything...just passing on what I'm hearing from the BOS local ch 7 for those not in this area...so "don't shoot the messenger"!

Update: Two F-15 fighter jets from Otis were scrambled to accompany it.

They have changed story now also: Hand lotion, matches and the note.

[Edited 2006-08-16 17:05:27]


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User currently offlineMattRB From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 1624 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 13055 times:

Quoting J_Hallgren (Reply 11):

Oh, not trying to do so. Just seems rather unplausible given how things are at the current moment.

No offense meant.



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User currently offlineCOERJ145 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1421 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 13055 times:

Quoting RJpieces (Reply 8):
Fox has live coverage of the United 767 sitting on runway 15R with lots of emergency vehicles near it.

BOS doesn't have 15R. It has 4-22R/L, 18-36R/L, and 9-27.


User currently offlineTexdravid From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1355 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 13055 times:

My worst fears are true. Airport security, anywhere, is all smoke and mirrors put out for the tv cameras.

REAL security, including profiling, thorough checking, and a no-holds barred multi-layer coverage a la El Al is what we desperately need.



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User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 15, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 13055 times:

Quoting COERJ145 (Reply 13):
BOS doesn't have 15R. It has 4-22R/L, 18-36R/L, and 9-27.

According to this page, BOS does have a 15R/33R.

http://worldaerodata.com/wad.cgi?id=US05375&sch=KBOS


User currently offlineJ_Hallgren From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1507 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 12990 times:

As I updated my earlier post, they have not yet located the screwdriver as of now...


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User currently offlineFlyDreamliner From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 2759 posts, RR: 15
Reply 17, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 12990 times:

Quoting Texdravid (Reply 14):
REAL security, including profiling, thorough checking, and a no-holds barred multi-layer coverage a la El Al is what we desperately need.

This just shows irrational restrictions, no matter how tight, and not substitute for real security.



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User currently offlineFaustino927 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 263 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 12990 times:

I just read this on the internet. I am freaking out. This makes you ask yourself if it's really safe to fly? I don't think so. Hello, vaseline, a screwdriver, matches. Did this woman get checked in London or not? I am riding trains from now on. Then they tell you that it is safe to fly, bullshit!!!


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User currently offlineBMIFlyer From UK - England, joined Feb 2004, 8810 posts, RR: 58
Reply 19, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 12918 times:

BBC aren't gving much info...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4799057.stm



Lee



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User currently offlineRJpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 12918 times:

Quoting COERJ145 (Reply 13):
BOS doesn't have 15R. It has 4-22R/L, 18-36R/L, and 9-27.

It's most definitely sitting on a runway "15R"...Fox is showing the plane from a helicopter.

The newscaster on Fox just read an e-mail from Greta Van Sustren saying she was on this plane flying home on Saturday, and that there were two patdowns as well as a few people who clearly stuck out as air marshalls.


User currently offlineSK736 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 523 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 12918 times:
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Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 2):
If that is serious, how on earth could those find their way on a plane from LHR with all the security procedures now in place.

Well quite easily actually. We're not yet at the stage where passengers are strip searched at security - until we are I should imagine it's quite easy for small items such as these to be smuggled through. How would security know if she had a small jar of Vaseline tucked away in her knickers?


User currently offlineRJpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 12839 times:

Greta is now on Fox saying that she heard that United flew over a 777 a few days back with air marshalls to provide security for flights back to the US....Anybody know about this?

User currently offlineJ_Hallgren From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1507 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 12839 times:

FYI: They have updated the vaseline to hand lotion...but still.. a banned item!


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User currently offlineCALMSP From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3971 posts, RR: 7
Reply 24, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 12839 times:
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yes they do have a 15R...............it is 10,083 in length.


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25 FURUREFA : Hand lotion, matches and a note referencing Al Qaeda are confirmed. The screw driver is being verified. All 182 PAX have been brought to terminal E (t
26 RoseFlyer : I can understand getting something like Vaseline in a pocket or something, but a screwdriver? Unless it was plastic, I find it odd that they wouldn't
27 Amirs : I was wondering if someone might know why the UA 777 was diverted to Boston? Boston is a very populated area, and if there was a terror threat then it
28 Jetsetsteve : BOS does have a 15R/33L and its the longest of the 5 runways. It sits about 200 feet from the International Term "E"
29 Post contains images GBOAC : Good call. Those trains across the atlantic have perfect security. Come to think of it, trains everywhere have excellent screening and security. Noth
30 FURUREFA : The 763 was probably diverted to BOS because it was too far from Bangor. Matt
31 Contrails : If this information is correct somebody's head should roll at LHR. How can somebody get on with a screwdriver? This is nuts. As for the passenger(s) w
32 J_Hallgren : They are showing all the pax luggage spread out on runway and being checked by dogs...
33 ManchesterMAN : United should send the pax an invoice for the cost of diverting the plane.
34 J_Hallgren : Ok...so now they are saying it was a 60yr old woman who was claustrophic and disruptive...and thus was restrained... The flight did get escort from Ot
35 Senorcarnival : Not anymore. MSNBC is now saying the AP is stating the woman did not have any of those items...
36 Mika : Could be that this is just one of those diversions due to an aggressive/drunk passenger that we see every now and again, for the aviation world this i
37 BladeLWS : Probably because the closest fighter base is Otis ANGB in Mass. There are no other fighter bases north of Boston.
38 UA868 : BAA security its so inconsistent that something like this would not be surprising to many!! Utterly ridiculous! 868
39 LTBEWR : Another possibility why BOS is that a Federal Court is near by in downtown. They would have the facilities to hold and process charges against them. E
40 Aussieindc : Hang on a bit, with all the speculation as to what this pax had on her person, let's just wait to find out the real story. I know it's a great talking
41 Swank300 : I think the real security in this day and age are the other passengers. Not only do they not want to die, but they are angry that they have to fly in
42 DeltaGator : Did these become no-no items again after the UK stuff? I thought the regulation was no boxed matches but the ones in the paper flip containers were f
43 Post contains images Mika : Anyone trying to take control of the AC these days is considered as someone trying to murder you, hence people surely react differently than against
44 J_Hallgren : As I stated earlier, I was just posting what I heard...so whatever wrong info they gave, I relayed...sorry! In a breaking story like this, info gets o
45 Dogfighter2111 : It is a 60 Year Old woman apparently. I wonder how she got this through...lol
46 Post contains images Aogdesk : By the end of the day, the items above will prove to be yogurt, spoon, saltines and a note about Al Capone
47 Post contains links RichardPrice : Why? I wouldnt believe all first instance media reports if I were you, the reports of the presence of these items have now been denied. http://news.b
48 Post contains images Bongo : That was funny Now I assume that TSA will not allow all the 60 + years old woman in planes because they are dangerous
49 Post contains images Hiflyer : Great...here comes another 10,000 pax wanting freebie upgrades to ECY Plus because they are claustrophobic.....
50 Post contains links and images AirbusfanYYZ : According to ABCNews.com 47 yr. old lady petroleum jelly foreign language computer printouts water bottle with airline's logo on it http://blogs.abcne
51 Post contains links and images Captaink : On the ligher side guys check out the yahoo clip. It seems to me, that according to them this said United flight was operated buy what looks like to b
52 Post contains links AirTranTUS : I have been watching FOX off and on since they broke the story, and they first reported an Associated Press report that said the lady had the banned i
53 Post contains images AirTranTUS : And you think FOX came up with their information on their own? If you were actually watching them, you would have heard them cite the Associated Pres
54 LN-MOW : Actually the news came from a Boston-Logan airport official. TSA later denided it. At least, that's what CNN reported.
55 SK736 : Apparently it's not confirmed as they're now reporting something completely different. If you had a small screwdriver hidden in your underwear it wou
56 1011 : If anyone is interested the tail number was 648UA.
57 Post contains images AIRCANL1011 : The media has again succeeded in blowing an incident way out of proportion. Why should a person who became claustrophobic be sent to prison. If you r
58 UAL777UK : Well watching the BBC news as I type this, this sure is going to be a week BAA would want to forget. They have lost the plot completely...a total disg
59 Hslightnin : Wow good for you. go post on Trains.net then you fool ,we dont take kindly to your type here indeed[Edited 2006-08-16 19:51:58]
60 LTBEWR : My reference to this woman going to jail would be if she was formally charged, tried and convicted for a crime. If she had a mental health, a psycholo
61 AIRCANL1011 : That is a very good point. While this may not be a terrorist act but a persons reaction from all the things that have occurred lately and in the past
62 Post contains images Nkops : Great... now we'll have to profile them... that 3/4 of my pax on the Florida flights!!!
63 AirbusfanYYZ : I wasn't commenting on the source of the news reports but rather the history of FOX News to be at the forefront of taking a story and making it into
64 UnitedNRT : United should do a lot more than that, a frame sitting not making money and all the bad press... You so quickly forget that terrorists attacked rail
65 AIRCANL1011 : Everytime something like this happens and everyone goes crazy, and those Bastards claim another victory. They want us all to live with the fear that
66 UnitedNRT : It makes you wonder as to what the want to do to us. Control our minds with fear or physically harm us. Both i say. If they cant get one, they get the
67 Post contains images B777A340Fan : I guess we can add those products to the ever-growing "do not bring on board" list. I was thinking the exact same thing.... Don't planes bound for th
68 Coschnauzer : According to the Washington Post: "There is so much speculation out there, it's absurd," said Ann Davis, a TSA spokeswoman in Boston. "There is no nex
69 Post contains images M180up : Couldn't find better words, I have to totally agree, terrorism is winning the battle everytime we restrict ourselves from whatever we used to because
70 Post contains images FlyGuyClt : Unfortunately the world we live in can no longer afford to let people have temper tantrums while flying. As an airline employee you don't have the tim
71 Post contains images TinkerBelle : Lemme know how your train ride to Hawaii goes. You have a higher chance of falling in the train's pathway and getting run over before boarding than y
72 AIRCANL1011 : The actions taken by the flight crew and the airline are not in question. They did the right thing by landing as soon as possible and being safe. It
73 Post contains images FlyGuyClt : Please note. My reply was not directed toward anyone. Other than freaks on the airplane whom think they can act up. Safe Flying
74 ChrisNH : I thought Otis was losing their F-15s to Westfield, Mass. Did that not happen yet, or is it not happening at all? It is interesting that, right back
75 Faustino927 : I will post on whatever I want. If you don't like it then don't read it. I love to fly and I meant ride trains within the United States were it is sa
76 Post contains images VTBDflyer : I agree. The Defense usually has the advantage because they are protecting themselves and they have a reason to fight. VTBDflyer
77 Hslightnin : So there what? you clearly stated you are never flying again you stated let me quote Of course its not 100% safe to fly but you need to take it easy
78 UN_B732 : I just heard of WPTZ news here in Vermont, that the lady invovled was also from Vermont. Does anyone have a tail on this?
79 KLM672 : UN: I have not heard that but my local news in VT (WCAX) starts in about 20 minutes.
80 DavestanKSAN : Hope everything works out..... Dave
81 Post contains images Cadet57 : They are on their way now. We should have them by early next year. Bye from CEF/BAF
82 ChrisNH : The latest news is that some Massport hack decided to embelish a bit with respect to what this Vermont woman had with her or what she was doing. Turns
83 Post contains images Aeroplan73 : So some matches, hand lotion and a screw driver. Unless this chick is MacGuyver, I don't think there is much to worry about.
84 Post contains images TheRonald : THAT'S IT! It's his mother; baby Mac is in trouble and needs a few things Good ol' Mother MacGyver was on her way is all After all, wasn't everyone i
85 Moek2000 : If what the media said is true, then what the heck was she thinking? On the other hand, if the media lied (as usual), then I feel sorry for all the pe
86 Yellowstone : Just a thought... If this lady really was any serious threat, why would they have landed the plane in BOS? Even your garden variety air ragers are usu
87 764 : My thoughts exactly. I'm sure that this is the case. Somebody would have to explain to me how a poor claustrophobic lady poses any threat to an aircr
88 Post contains images ADXMatt : The North Atlantic Tracks for this mornings westbound flights was way way south and feet dry was between BOS and BWI.... Going to BGR was way out of
89 UA868 : [quote=RichardPrice,reply=47]Why? I wouldnt believe all first instance media reports if I were you, the reports of the presence of these items have n
90 Eurohub : According to a report I heard on BBC Radio news this morning, the 59 year old woman suffered an anxiety attack after having been denied access to the
91 Post contains images CptSpeaking : Your opinion is your own, but events such as these prove that the procedures and the security work. Granted we may be restricting ourselves more and
92 CALMSP : i love the caption of the news articles today............"FEDS say lady is not a terrorist"............ who was the genius who though this up?? i was
93 Tootallsd : Supposedly the problem happened when the FA asked about the hand lotion. She said it's not hand lotion, it's a BALM.
94 Khobar : Now that some time has passed: The FBI confirmed that the woman was, in fact, carrying banned items in her carry-on bag, including a screwdriver, an u
95 Khobar : Just a followup. News reports now say that the woman involved did pass several notes to crew members, urinated on the cabin floor, and made comments t
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