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Current Largest 727 Operator? Champion Air?  
User currently offlineCoyoteguy From Mexico, joined Oct 2001, 446 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 5440 times:

I am thinking Champion Air must be the largest 727 operator at least in North America nowadays? According to their website they have 16 examples, (6 of which are in VIP configuration) and I saw three in Cancun at the same time recently. Unfortunately (for me) they are charter not scheduled, so not that easy to get a flight on one of their lovely three holers. Anyone flown Champion?


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User currently offlineTi717 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 227 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 5427 times:

Fedex (if you count them) have 152.


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User currently offlineCoyoteguy From Mexico, joined Oct 2001, 446 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 5406 times:

For sure you are right and they are the largest, plus UPS have some, as does Amerijet (based here in Miami I believe) but I was talking about pax operators even though I forgot to specify it  Wink

User currently offlineAlexPorter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 5333 times:

Champion Air was my first flight, back in March 2001 when flying on a 727 was commonplace. It was MSP-PVR during the spring break season and was booked through MLT vacations as part of an all-inclusive hotel package. Service on board was very, very similar to Sun Country, with beverage service and a hot sandwich. Only difference was lack of first class and a much older plane (although it seemed to be pretty well maintained, except for an obese man putting *both* lavs out of service on the flight back).

User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8690 posts, RR: 16
Reply 4, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 5328 times:

They sometimes sub for NW. It wouldnt surprise me if they add more. The 727 is perfect for them.

MCOflyer



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User currently offlineRichierich From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 4296 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 5319 times:

Quoting AlexPorter (Reply 3):
except for an obese man putting *both* lavs out of service on the flight back).

Wow - crapping up two lavs. That's impressive!



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User currently offlineSunking737 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2058 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (8 years 4 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 5204 times:

Champion now only serves a snack of chips, or nuts no food.

But their crews do get a hot meal, Breakfast, Lunch, and Dinner. Very good food. Eggs bacon, or pan cakes in AM, Stir fry and white rice, or a ham dinner with potatoes, and corn, in PM. just a example.



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User currently offlineSunking737 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2058 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (8 years 4 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 5204 times:

Champion now only serves a snack of chips, or nuts. No hot food.

But their crews do get a hot meal, Breakfast, Lunch, and Dinner. Very good food. Eggs bacon, or pan cakes in AM, Stir fry and white rice, or a ham dinner with potatoes, and corn, in PM. just a example.

But the food on the VIP planes is the best yet.



Just an MSPAVGEEK
User currently offlineFXramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7359 posts, RR: 85
Reply 8, posted (8 years 4 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 5162 times:
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FX currently is operating the largest fleet of 727!  bouncy 

94 - 727-200
13 - 727-100

A few are being retired every six months or so...

Currently searching for a replacement.


User currently offlineFalstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 6166 posts, RR: 29
Reply 9, posted (8 years 4 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 5152 times:
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DHL has some too. I don't know how many, but I have seen them around.


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User currently offlineCoyoteguy From Mexico, joined Oct 2001, 446 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 4 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5086 times:

Thanks for the replies so far guys. I also used to see USPS (Post Office) examples. Do they still fly? Haven't seen one in a while. Lets hope that Champion continues to build up their fleet if the 727 is working for them.

Planet Airways was another one I used to see now I think about it, pax version, and I believe they were even operating the -100. Haven't seen it in a while. Anyone know if they are still around?

Cheers


User currently offlineBH From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 525 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (8 years 4 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 5016 times:

Unfortunatley Planet Airways ceased operating on May 15 2005.If you go to the Champion Air website there is a link to the travel company they run for.VEGAS on a 727 anyone? Chilling on the ramp at BWI, they were doing day trips for a private school all that week out of detroit.All i got was lousy Aquarium field trips.


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User currently offlineViasa From Switzerland, joined Jun 2005, 1898 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (8 years 4 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 4819 times:

AllCanada Express: 2 B727-200F
Amerijet Intl: 9 B727-200F
Astar Air Cargo: 28 B727-200F (+ 1 stored)
Boston-Maine Airways: 4 B727-200
Capital Cargo Intl Airlines: 13 B727-200F
Cargojet Airways: 11B727-200F
Champion Air: 16 B727-200
Custom Air Transport: 16 B727-200F (all stored)
Express.net Airlines: 1 B727-200F
FedEx Express: 12 B727-100F, 89 B727-200F
First Air: 2 B727-200F (maybe wfu)
Flair Airlines: 1 B727-200, 2 B727-200F
Gulf & Caribbean Air: 3 B727-100F
Kalitta Charters II: 4 B727-200F
Kelowna Flightcraft: 2 B727-100F, 1 B727-200, 13 B727-200F
Kitty Hawk Air Cargo: 17 B727-200F (+ 5 stored)
Miami Air: 1 B727-200 (maybe wfu)
Morningstar Air Express: 2 B727-100F, 5 B727-200F
Nomads: 1 B727-200
Northern Air Cargo: 3 B727-100F/C
Platinum Air: 1 B727-200 (lst Platinum Linhas Aereas), 1 B727-200F (stored)
Roush Air: 3 B727-100
Starjet Canada: 2 B727-200
UPS Airlines: 17 B727-100F

+ a lot of private or company B727


User currently offlineSkepticAll From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 4 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 4810 times:

Isn't Pan Am still flying their winglet fitted B727-200's?

User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9664 posts, RR: 68
Reply 14, posted (8 years 4 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 4791 times:
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Isn't Pan Am still flying their winglet fitted B727-200's?

Boston-Maine Airways: 4 B727-200


User currently offlineCrownvic From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1954 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (8 years 4 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 4628 times:

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User currently offlineLucky42 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (8 years 4 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 4614 times:

Just a side note the Morningstar air express 727's also are FedEx they are leased to Morningstar.

User currently offlineBlsbls99 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 345 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (8 years 4 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 4557 times:

Didn't United Services (United Airlines) sell Pan Am II (or was it III, the one based out of Portsmouth, NH) like 20+ 727-200s a few years back? I thought this transaction took place under the premise that Pan Am was not to use the aircraft on US domestic services.


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User currently offlineINTENSS From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 317 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (8 years 4 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 4483 times:

Quoting Clickhappy (Reply 14):
Isn't Pan Am still flying their winglet fitted B727-200's?

Boston-Maine Airways: 4 B727-200

That number is incorrect. They have 3 a/c currently flying and another half dozen that have flown recently but are now parked. There are also a dozen or so ex-United parts planes in Sanford and Portsmouth.....though they're being dismantled.

Quoting Blsbls99 (Reply 17):
Didn't United Services (United Airlines) sell Pan Am II (or was it III, the one based out of Portsmouth, NH) like 20+ 727-200s a few years back? I thought this transaction took place under the premise that Pan Am was not to use the aircraft on US domestic services.

That's correct. Pan Am/Boston Maine wanted to start up Pan American World Airways out of San Juan and fly through the Caribbean. Those plans hit a road block recently when the DOT denied the company's request to expand their operating fleet to 7 a/c from the current 3.

-Rich


User currently offlineViasa From Switzerland, joined Jun 2005, 1898 posts, RR: 6
Reply 19, posted (8 years 4 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 4471 times:

Quoting INTENSS (Reply 18):
That number is incorrect. They have 3 a/c currently flying and another half dozen that have flown recently but are now parked. There are also a dozen or so ex-United parts planes in Sanford and Portsmouth.....though they're being dismantled.

The former United B727 was "ordered" by Pan Am, but Pan Am stopped it's operation. Now we have Boston-Maine Airways which operate as Pan Am Clipper Connection.

I have the information, that E9 us the N342PA, N343PA, N348PA and N349PA.


User currently offlineAirAmericaC46 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 590 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (8 years 4 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 4414 times:

Any other charter routes Champion Air 727-200 flew in the past? routes and year or decade of service?

I always see it parked on the Executive Terminal ramp in PHL----anybody knows what flights they do to PHL?

Thanks for the info.


User currently offlineUnited_Fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7540 posts, RR: 7
Reply 21, posted (8 years 4 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 4408 times:

Coyoteguy,the USPS 721's were flown by Ryan under contract to the PO. FX won the new contract.


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User currently offlineINTENSS From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 317 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (8 years 4 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 4352 times:

Quoting Viasa (Reply 19):
I have the information, that E9 us the N342PA, N343PA, N348PA and N349PA.

N343PA is not currently being used by Boston-Maine/Pan Am....it's parked at Sanford along with N346PA doing nothing. The only 3 operational a/c in the fleet right now are N342PA, N348PA, and N349PA.

-Rich


User currently offlineCrownvic From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1954 posts, RR: 5
Reply 23, posted (8 years 4 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 4219 times:

AirAmericaC46...Nore than likely, they are professional sports team charters...

User currently offlineMSPMike From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (8 years 4 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 4198 times:

Las night at MSP I saw 2 parked at DHL's hanger, and at least 3 at Champions.

...I was weaving on the road to get a good look at them

Mike


25 Wjcandee : Almost. The USPS 721s were flown by Ryan under contract to Emery which had the contract with the USPS. DHL uses two airlift contractors in the US. On
26 DC3CV3407AC727 : word 'round the ramp,and cockpit is good old Champion air will be continuing the 727 appreciation and preservation fest through '08 with the track bir
27 LTU932 : AFAIK, ER also uses a few more airlift contractors here in Central and South America which have 727s in their fleet. Aero Expreso from Panama has aro
28 Bahadir : How does Champion operate these gas guzzlers in the day and age of high fuel prices? What's the secret?
29 Post contains images LTU932 : Probably those 722s have less cycles a day than in the 70's, when 727 operations were at their peak, or they simply operate them at lower cruise spee
30 DC3CV3407AC727 : CCP leases and will soon own the entire fleet(by'07), the lease rates are reasonable,due to the types mass retirement in '01, with airframe costs low,
31 Coyoteguy : Nice to know it works for Champion, and I hope we see them around for a long time!
32 Post contains images LTU932 : Judging from the line numbers of MG's aircraft, they seem to be fairly new for 727 aircraft, with the oldest been built in the mid 70's or so, and th
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