CV990 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (11 years 8 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 914 times:
Dear friends!
I would like to know if you have seen lately any Canadairs CL-44's flying. Also if not flying did anyone see one in the last few months?
My last spot of a CL44 was long time ago, it was a Cyprus Airways landing at Gatwick, I know that a few months latter that plane crashed.
I wait your feedback!
regards
Greeneyes53787 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 844 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (11 years 8 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 867 times:
I don't know the answer, but I admire them. I wish they transported passengers. Their windshield is very much a Convair pattern. I like it.
CV990 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 2, posted (11 years 8 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 865 times:
Hi Greeneyes53787!
Thanks a lot the information. Infact you're right, their windshield looks very familiar to the CV880/990! I wounder if they didn't just coppied that?!?! I don't know if you knew this but in the past the CL44 had also a passenger variant, one of the most famous users was Loftleidir Icelandic, they did flights to North America with CL44's. But when they started to converto to cargo that was really the task the plane was designed for, the swing-tail gave a big flexibility to the plane. I remember also seeing in Stansted in 1980 some CL-44's of Transmeridian, one of them was the Conroy conversion CL-44-O, that was a monster!!!
Have you ever seen one in the past?
Regards.
ExPratt From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 311 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (11 years 8 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 865 times:
I saw a non-flying CL-44 in Guayaquil, Ecuador in April of this year. It still had all the control surfaces, windows, doors, landing gear, engines and props, but it also had a lot of corrosion.
Ceilidh From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 5, posted (11 years 8 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 852 times:
Yes, I am the joint owner of two operational CL44s, both working in Africa and currently based in Kinshasa. Those, together with the Guppy owned by FIA based at Southend are the last three operational aircraft.
The reason that the CL44's windshield looks like the CV880/990 one is that it is the CV880/990 one! Originally, the aircraft was going to be designed with a windshield configuration similar to that of the Bristol Britannia - however the FAA wasn't too keen on that. The General Dynamics design fitted and the rest is history!
Greeneyes53787 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 844 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (11 years 8 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 845 times:
I knew about the GD involvement, but your input fills some gaps. But you know very well that this is not an 880 windshield. It is just a vast improvement over the Bristol busy windshield that basic airframe was designed for, right?
Ceilidh From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 8, posted (11 years 8 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 845 times:
Greeneyes - I'm not 100% sure what the story was: I've only been involved with these aircraft for a couple of years now. I have a feeling the full story is on the CL44 website.
V1 - we bought those aircraft; the remaining ones were scrapped last year.
PhilB From Ireland, joined exactly 13 years ago today! , 2915 posts, RR: 17 Reply 10, posted (11 years 8 months 12 hours ago) and read 821 times:
Reading this thread reminds me of a cartoon in the aviation press in the early 1960s (I can't remember the publication).
A pilot was being shown the "latest jetliner" by a smarmy salesman who was pointing out the sign by the jet adverising the lack of glare through the very small cockpit windows.
He was wearing a completely nonplussed expression as the pilot said to him "but I prefer a view" pointing to the already "dated" propellor CL44 next in line.
There were, I seem to remember a number of similar cartoons and jokes at the time.
Just a thought:
Had the Tyne engine been available to Bristol in 1953, would the Britannia have achieved the same success as the Viscount and, in the light of the Comet experience, would airlines have taken to to Turboprop for long haul aircraft?
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