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MEA Larnaca To Montreal?  
User currently offlineVasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 3926 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 2 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 3184 times:

Yesterday I was checking in for my CY flight back to the UK (which was excellent, by the way!) and I saw a few check-in desks dedicated to a MEA flight to Montreal! It had a 4-number flight no. and I think it had a 1 and a 7 in it. There were people in "Canada" tshirts standing around it, and the passengers (who arrived in large clusters) were escorted straight to these desks from the entrance. What was this flight? Some sort of evacuation?

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User currently offlineCYatUK From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 810 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 2 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 3164 times:

Quoting Vasu (Thread starter):
Yesterday I was checking in for my CY flight back to the UK (which was excellent, by the way!) and I saw a few check-in desks dedicated to a MEA flight to Montreal! It had a 4-number flight no. and I think it had a 1 and a 7 in it. There were people in "Canada" tshirts standing around it, and the passengers (who arrived in large clusters) were escorted straight to these desks from the entrance. What was this flight? Some sort of evacuation?

The Canadian Government have chartered Louis Cruise Lines's Princesa Marissa to perform a series of trips from Cyprus to Lebanon. Perhaps the MEA flight is connected to this.

Glad you liked CY A330. Hopefully in 2-3 years time, with the new LCA and PFO terminals the airport mess will be a thing of the past.



CY@Uk
User currently offlineSoups From Ghana, joined Jun 2004, 3438 posts, RR: 14
Reply 2, posted (8 years 2 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 3102 times:

Quoting CYatUK (Reply 1):
Perhaps the MEA flight is connected to this.

MEA been flying to Sydney and Canada for evacuation



Next destinations, Suarabaya, beirut, paris, Accra
User currently offlineUnitedFirst From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 478 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (8 years 2 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 3069 times:

On Monday, I definitely saw an MEA plane (assuming an A330, but I wasn't really paying too close attention - perhaps an A321 even?) landing at YUL while at lunch at AC HQ.

I'm assuming that this was a charter, as MEA does not offer scheduled service to North America at all, let alone YUL.

Derek


User currently offlineYegbey01 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1729 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (8 years 2 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 3052 times:

actually, if you look into the Canadian Trasnport Agency website you wil see that MEA has been operating so many flights...They are issuing special exemptions. LAst night, there was a flight A330 indeed.

here's a link...(you can check others for yourself)

http://www.cta-otc.gc.ca/rulings-dec...decisions/2006/A/436-A-2006_e.html


User currently offlineThenoflyzone From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 2582 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (8 years 2 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 3024 times:

Quoting Yegbey01 (Reply 4):
LAst night, there was a flight A330 indeed.

Actually in the last 24 hours 3 MEA A332's flew out of YUL. 2 were destined for Damascus, Syria, and the other for Lisbon, Portugal.

MEA7118 YUL-DAM departed 15:31 (AUg 16) A332

MEA7120 YUL-DAM departed 22:03 (Aug 16) A332

MEA7122 YUL-LIS departed 02:41 (AUG 17) A332



us Air Traffic Controllers have a good record, we haven't left one up there yet !!
User currently offlineThenoflyzone From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 2582 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (8 years 2 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 3020 times:

Quoting UnitedFirst (Reply 3):
I'm assuming that this was a charter, as MEA does not offer scheduled service to North America at all, let alone YUL

Derek, If MEA ever decide to offer scheduled service to North-America, YUL will be the first destination on their list.



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User currently offlineUnitedFirst From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 478 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (8 years 2 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2983 times:

Thank you Thenoflyzone, I'm very well aware of that. I'm simply pointing out the fact that there is no service to North America period.

User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8683 posts, RR: 16
Reply 8, posted (8 years 2 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2969 times:

Thats pretty good. I didnt know that MEA's A330 were the ones that can fly long range. It must be cool to see that. Anyone shoot pics?

MCOflyer



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User currently offlineThenoflyzone From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 2582 posts, RR: 11
Reply 9, posted (8 years 2 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2955 times:

Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 8):
Anyone shoot pics?


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Photo © Youri Thonon - Contrails Aviation Photography



AK



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User currently offlineThenoflyzone From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 2582 posts, RR: 11
Reply 10, posted (8 years 2 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2942 times:

Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 8):
Anyone shoot pics?



Quoting Soups (Reply 2):
MEA been flying to Sydney and Canada for evacuation

Here are pictures of the same plane in SYD a couple of weeks later...


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Photo © Brenden



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Photo © Qiu Cheng



AK



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User currently offlineNaritaflyer From Japan, joined Apr 2006, 549 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (8 years 2 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 2754 times:

Those were charters for the government of Canada to evacuate Canadians.

I like the MEA livery. Nice looking colour scheme.


User currently offlineYulguy From Canada, joined Feb 2004, 246 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 2 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2697 times:

I knew I wasn't seeing things when I saw an MEA 330 landing at YUL 2 days ago. I was at the Rogers Cup, watching tennis, when I saw it come in for a landing. MEA (and AC) should really think about lobbying to get the YUL-BEY route opened up. It's just ridiculous that the government is not allowing it.


"Celui qui diffère de moi, loin de me léser, m'enrichit." - Saint-Exupéry
User currently offlineNaritaflyer From Japan, joined Apr 2006, 549 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (8 years 2 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2684 times:

Yulguy,
your government is being pressured by the US government to prevent a direct link. Americans think that terrorists would come to the US via Canada. Air Canada applied for the route but was turned down by the government citing security concerns.
Keep in mnd, however, that insurance rates to BEY make flights very expensive.


User currently offlineYulguy From Canada, joined Feb 2004, 246 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (8 years 2 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2585 times:

Everyone assumes that the Government of Canada backed down on the YUL-BEY direct link due to U.S. pressure. I believe this myself, but has anyone in the Canadian government ever really acknowledged that this was the reason why the link was nixed? It seems a bit silly that officials don't think that a direct link will be a security threat. I mean anyone can fly from BEY to YUL via CDG on Air France if they want. And YUL has direct links to Morocco and Egypt. No problem there.


"Celui qui diffère de moi, loin de me léser, m'enrichit." - Saint-Exupéry
User currently offlineYULWinterSkies From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2182 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (8 years 2 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2569 times:

Quoting Yulguy (Reply 14):
YUL has direct links to Morocco and Egypt. No problem there.

No problem indeed. However, Morocco and Egypt are not Lebanon.

Don't Morocco and Egypt even have directs links to the US as well?



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User currently offlineThenoflyzone From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 2582 posts, RR: 11
Reply 16, posted (8 years 2 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2549 times:

Quoting YULWinterSkies (Reply 15):
Don't Morocco and Egypt even have directs links to the US as well?

Yes they do.

MS985 CAI-JFK 10:15 - 15:15 B772

AT200 CMN-JFK 11:30 - 15:40 B763

AK



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User currently offlineThenoflyzone From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 2582 posts, RR: 11
Reply 17, posted (8 years 2 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2540 times:

Quoting Naritaflyer (Reply 13):
your government is being pressured by the US government to prevent a direct link

That theory is not consistent. PIA flies non-stop from Pakistan to Toronto 3 times a week, but BEY-YUL is a security threat?...Bull !

Pakistan is as much of a security threat to the States than is Lebanon.

YUL-BEY will eventually happen! It's inevitable.



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User currently offlineYulguy From Canada, joined Feb 2004, 246 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (8 years 2 months 5 days ago) and read 2446 times:

Quoting YULWinterSkies (Reply 15):
However, Morocco and Egypt are not Lebanon.

Thanks for the geography lesson  Smile I guess the point I was trying to make is what is the beef with Lebanon compared to other predominantly muslim countries? Why is there a perception that a direct flight to BEY is any more dangerous than the direct flight to Casablanca or Cairo?



"Celui qui diffère de moi, loin de me léser, m'enrichit." - Saint-Exupéry
User currently offlineYegbey01 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1729 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (8 years 2 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2414 times:

Quoting Yulguy (Reply 18):
Why is there a perception that a direct flight to BEY is any more dangerous than the direct flight to Casablanca or Cairo

Because the Beirut Airport lies within the area that is inhabitaed by Hizbullah supporters (mostly Shiites) in the southern suburb of Beirut...But the airport is obviously under the legitimate Lebanese Government.


User currently offlineFLYYUL From Italy, joined Jun 2000, 4994 posts, RR: 51
Reply 20, posted (8 years 2 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2404 times:

As long as Hezbollah remains in Lebanon, and Canada continues to be run by conservatives... you can FORGET YULBEY for the next decade.

Lebanon gets rid of Hizbollah, there will be a flight.. simple.


User currently offlineETStar From Canada, joined Jan 2004, 2103 posts, RR: 7
Reply 21, posted (8 years 2 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2301 times:

Quoting YULWinterSkies (Reply 15):

Don't Morocco and Egypt even have directs links to the US as well?

Not only that, Air Algerie is about to start services to Montreal: whooooooo 200 terrorists per day!

I believe that the decisions not to serve Beirut is very political, with "terrorists" in that country being on the "terrorist list" and the fact that Montreal also has a large jewish community which may influence the government against such authorizations.

I should mention that I read earlier this week that MEA aircraft was also used to airlift Ethiopians back to their homelands.

[Edited 2006-08-19 19:46:42]

User currently offlineYulguy From Canada, joined Feb 2004, 246 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (8 years 2 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2274 times:

Air Algérie will be coming to YUL? That's great! When do they start services? On what time of aircraft? Frequency?

Quoting FLYYUL (Reply 20):
As long as Hezbollah remains in Lebanon, and Canada continues to be run by conservatives... you can FORGET YULBEY for the next decade.

Unortunately, you are probably right. It's so disappointing. I'm sure it would be a profitable route for AC.



"Celui qui diffère de moi, loin de me léser, m'enrichit." - Saint-Exupéry
User currently offlineETStar From Canada, joined Jan 2004, 2103 posts, RR: 7
Reply 23, posted (8 years 2 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2186 times:

Quoting Yulguy (Reply 22):
Air Algérie will be coming to YUL? That's great! When do they start services? On what time of aircraft? Frequency?

http://www.africanflyer.com/2006/07/...a-to-offer-canada-algeria-service/


User currently offline6thfreedom From Bermuda, joined Sep 2004, 3333 posts, RR: 20
Reply 24, posted (8 years 2 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2162 times:

Quoting FLYYUL (Reply 20):
As long as Hezbollah remains in Lebanon, and Canada continues to be run by conservatives... you can FORGET YULBEY for the next decade.

Lebanon gets rid of Hizbollah, there will be a flight.. simple.

Please educate yourself....

please refe to this link for a 9 minute lesson...

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article14391.htm


25 Yegbey01 : this is not a forum to showcase political opinions..... jutst as an fyi....for the vast majority of "true" lebanese, Hizbullah need not exist anymore
26 6thfreedom : Ok, point taken. However, you cannot to deny how closely aviation is tied to politics. It's just the nature of the industry, so to ignore it altogeth
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