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Alaska Airlines Flight Loses Cabin Pressure  
User currently offlineYellowstone From United States, joined Aug 2006, 2277 posts, RR: 11
Posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 7178 times:

Just heard on MSNBC that an Alaska Airlines flight was forced to make an emergency landing after it lost cabin pressure. They report 14 injuries, all minor. The footage they showed appeared to be a 737-400.

Anyone have any more info?


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User currently offlineBCAInfoSys From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 7160 times:

Another Menzies ramper ramming aircraft and not reporting the damage?  stirthepot 

User currently offline717-200 From United States, joined Oct 2000, 601 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 7126 times:

Quoting BCAInfoSys (Reply 1):
Another Menzies ramper ramming aircraft and not reporting the damage?

I do not believe that Menzies does AS ground handling at YVR, although the
regualr AS a.netters might know who does?


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User currently offlineSW733 From Namibia, joined Feb 2004, 3398 posts, RR: 14
Reply 3, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 7052 times:

Was flight 690 from YVR-SFO, took off at 7:10am PST and made an emergency landing into SEA at 8:20am citing cabin pressure problems. 14 minor injuries, including 3 crew members. Was indeed type 734. Don't know any more personally


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User currently offlineSLCUT2777 From United States, joined Dec 2005, 3701 posts, RR: 14
Reply 4, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 6936 times:

Just posted from the Associated Press:

Quote:
SEATTLE - An Alaska Airlines passenger plane flying from Vancouver, British Columbia, to San Francisco was diverted to Seattle-Tacoma International Airport on Friday morning after the Boeing 737 lost cabin pressure.
Airport spokesman Bob Parker said Flight 690 landed safely around 8:20 a.m.
About 14 people, including at least three crew members, complained of pain related to the decompression and were treated by airport medics. "So far, all of those injuries have been extremely minor," Parker told KOMO Radio.
Additional details were not immediately available. A call to Alaska Airlines was not immediately returned.

AS does have a fairly significant trans-border operation at YVR to the west coast and Alaska (LAX, SFO, SAN, PDX, SEA, ANC, FAI). Menzies? Wouldn't surprise me these days!


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User currently offlineWJ From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2006, 304 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 6920 times:

Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 4):

Quote:
SEATTLE - An Alaska Airlines passenger plane flying from Vancouver, British Columbia, to San Francisco was diverted to Seattle-Tacoma International Airport on Friday morning after the Boeing 737 lost cabin pressure.
Airport spokesman Bob Parker said Flight 690 landed safely around 8:20 a.m.
About 14 people, including at least three crew members, complained of pain related to the decompression and were treated by airport medics. "So far, all of those injuries have been extremely minor," Parker told KOMO Radio.
Additional details were not immediately available. A call to Alaska Airlines was not immediately returned.

Didn't AS have a bunch of these earlier this year? IIRC, they ended up doing a full self check on their entire 734 fleet. I think the FAA is going to be knocking on the door any minute there looking for some paperwork...


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User currently offlineEVA777SEA From United States, joined Aug 2006, 454 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 6605 times:

Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 4):
AS does have a fairly significant trans-border operation at YVR to the west coast and Alaska (LAX, SFO, SAN, PDX, SEA, ANC, FAI). Menzies? Wouldn't surprise me these days!

Actually its SFO, LAX, LAS, SEA, SAN, and ANC but thats still significant.

User currently offlineChugach From United States, joined Dec 2004, 1041 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 6576 times:

Quoting EVA777SEA (Reply 6):
Actually its SFO, LAX, LAS, SEA, SAN, and ANC but thats still significant.

FAI is direct through ANC; same aircraft/flight number. Not to nit-pick or anything  Wink


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User currently offlineF9Animal From United States, joined Dec 2004, 3393 posts, RR: 36
Reply 8, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 6466 times:

Quoting BCAInfoSys (Reply 1):
Another Menzies ramper ramming aircraft and not reporting the damage? stirthepot

How many of these issues are going to happen? AS is having waaaay too many of these incidents. I would not be surprised if Menzies is the cause to a majority of these recent issues inflight. Has AS released the causes of the prior events?


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User currently offlineCanuckjetsettr From Canada, joined Jun 2006, 46 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (3 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 6311 times:

Swissport does AS in YVR.

We are all mentioning the ground handler's yet there are tons of reasons why a plane could lose cabin pressure.

Don't get me wrong, though, Menzies has really f*cked up in the past.

User currently offline1011 From United States, joined Feb 2001, 309 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (3 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 6306 times:

Does anyone know the tail number of this aircraft?

These probloms happen to all airplanes on all airlines all the time. No big deal.

User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (3 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 6275 times:

Quoting F9Animal (Reply 8):
How many of these issues are going to happen? AS is having waaaay too many of these incidents.

They don't have any more than anyone else--it's just that the media is there with orbiting helos with live feeds anytime AS has anything out of the ordinary happen--the common stuff like blown tires (gasp!), air interruptions (gasp!) and mechanical issues (gasp!).

Every airline has these kinds of issues, and once the media gets a lock-on, they stay focused on you, and every molehill becomes a mountain. The same thing happened to USAir(ways) back in the late 1980s... It could happen to any airline, even F9...

[Edited 2006-08-19 04:49:09]

User currently offlineNonfirm From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (3 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 6203 times:

Quoting F9Animal (Reply 8):
How many of these issues are going to happen? AS is having waaaay too many of these incidents. I would not be surprised if Menzies is the cause to a majority of these recent issues inflight. Has AS released the causes of the prior events?

I knew you were going to chime in on the subject.Not as harsh as the last time though are you feeling ok.Just keep in mind that the a/c is mechanical and everything mechanical breaks.It is unfortunate that the media in sea has nothing to do but report on Alaska all day everyday. airplane 

User currently offlineAS739X From United States, joined Apr 2003, 4390 posts, RR: 30
Reply 13, posted (3 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5617 times:

No kidding nonfirm. It wouldn't be an Alaska bashing thread without F9Animal.

I dont believe its Menzies in YVR. That station is handled by Horizon and whomever their ramp service is there.

ASLAX


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User currently offlineCOEWRNJ From United States, joined Oct 2003, 1024 posts, RR: 31
Reply 14, posted (3 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5570 times:

Sorry to ask, but what are the Menzies? I've seen it in quite a few AS threads but am not sure what they are.

Thanks!

User currently offlineSeaIFR From United States, joined Mar 2006, 2 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (3 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 5409 times:

Quoting COEWRNJ (Reply 14):

Menzies Aviation is the company that is responsible for the ground handling of Alaska Airlines in SEA.

User currently offlineNonfirm From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (3 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 5356 times:

Quoting COEWRNJ (Reply 14):
Sorry to ask, but what are the Menzies? I've seen it in quite a few AS threads but am not sure what they are.

Thanks!

That is the name of the company that handles the ramp functions. airplane 

User currently offlineAS739X From United States, joined Apr 2003, 4390 posts, RR: 30
Reply 17, posted (3 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 5256 times:

Menzies also handles SFO,SJC,PDX,LAX, and all of Mexico (except CUN I think).

Menzies does:
-Ramp service
-Cabin cleaning service
-and other misc. services

ASLAX


"Some pilots avoid storm cells and some play connect the dots!"
User currently offlineF9Animal From United States, joined Dec 2004, 3393 posts, RR: 36
Reply 18, posted (3 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 3588 times:

Quoting AS739X (Reply 13):
No kidding nonfirm. It wouldn't be an Alaska bashing thread without F9Animal.

I dont believe its Menzies in YVR. That station is handled by Horizon and whomever their ramp service is there.

ASLAX

And this is a Alaska bashing thread? Hmmmmm. Last time I looked, I could have sworn it was an eskimo being followed by fire trucks. Gosh, now why would this topic even be here, if it was not for yet another incident? Did I go out and create this event?

Quoting AS739X (Reply 17):
-and other misc. services

Yup... Drug dealing, gang fights, theft, hitting planes, prostitution rings, and the list goes on! Great company!!!!! Great image and work environment!


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User currently offlinePilotaydin From Turkey, joined Sep 2004, 2234 posts, RR: 51
Reply 19, posted (3 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 3379 times:

Quoting Yellowstone (Thread starter):
The footage they showed appeared to be a 737-400.

go figure....we have pressure leaks on our -400s all the damn time out here too


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User currently offlineDash8tech From United States, joined Jul 1999, 732 posts, RR: 10
Reply 20, posted (3 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2127 times:

ASLAX, I believe our ramp service is us up there since we have a fair few arrivals and departures (15 I think between PDX and SEA)....errrm, but we didn't do it....I hope.  Smile

User currently offlineTsaord From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (3 years 3 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 2071 times:

Question: What exactly happens during a los of cabin pressure? Does the plane start to dive or something?

User currently offlineHikesWithEyes From United States, joined Jan 2004, 810 posts, RR: 12
Reply 22, posted (3 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2028 times:
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Quoting Tsaord (Reply 21):
Question: What exactly happens during a los of cabin pressure? Does the plane start to dive or something?

This wasn't a loss of cabin pressure, rather the aircraft failed to pressurize
properly during climb. Since the cabin altitude kept climbing,the crew elected
to divert to SEA for maintenance.


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User currently offlineMarkhkg From United States, joined Dec 2005, 832 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (3 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2028 times:

Quoting Tsaord (Reply 21):
Does the plane start to dive or something?

The cockpit cabin pressure alarm sounds, alerting the pilots to don their oxygen masks at 100% oxygen. If the cabin pressure continues to climb to above 14,000 feet (this number varies depending on aircraft), oxygen masks from the passenger service units open and the masks drop down.

On some aircrafts, this is immediately followed by the lights turning onto bright, as well as being followed by a pre-recorded announcement on how to use the masks. The no-smoking light and seat belt sign also illuminate.

The flight crew reduces altitude by beginning a descent. The cabin crew remain seated, with oxygen masks and seat belts secured. During this time, the cabin crew may shout commands to passengers on how to use their masks.

When the descent is complete, the flight crew will make an announcement. Cabin crewmembers will then assist other passengers who may require additional oxygen or medical attention. Cabin crew can use the "walk around" oxygen tanks in such a situation.


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User currently offlineAs739x From United States, joined Apr 2003, 4390 posts, RR: 30
Reply 24, posted (3 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2016 times:

F9Animal: Yep, your right as usual. Every other airline is spic-n-span. This would never happen to F9/B6/UA. I'm not getting into a argument with you buddy, its not worth imy time. Your AS bashing just gets old. Your reputation proceeds you, congrats!

Your getting to be old news!

ASLAX


"Some pilots avoid storm cells and some play connect the dots!"
User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 27796 posts, RR: 61
Reply 25, posted (3 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1988 times:

Aircraft are built to withstand this.
BTW most likely CPC problem.
regds
MEL


Think of the brighter side!
26 Post contains links WJ: AS739, While F9 is getting a reputation, so is your airline. While everyone has problems and no-one is even close to perfect, you have to admit that A
27 Dash8tech: No more or less than anyone else, who heard about Horizon's two weeks ago?
28 Post contains images Swissy: So did many other ones Menzies has no license to operate out of YVR it is AC, GG & Swissport....... Cheers,
29 CYatUK: This is exactly the reason for the Helios' Boeing 737-300 crash last year in Greece with the exception that in Helios' case the pilots failed to iden
30 S5FA170: This isn't necessarily a reflection on Alaska Airlines, their maintenance, or the Boeing 737. I work on brand new Embraer 170s. And this has happened
31 Outlier: You're links don't prove that, they're just AS own press releases! You'd have to go out and get a complete years worth of incident reports and show t
32 Pilotaydin: only two things sound alike in the 737-400 the cabin above 10,000 feet horn and the take off configuration warning...
33 Post contains links F9Animal: I never said every other airline was spic-n-span. Sure, every airline has issues come up. But, the topic is about this recent incident, and it seems
34 FL370: i don't think alaska airlines is a safe airline to fly on!! i think NW is better than they are!! this isn;t the first time alaska airlines requested a
35 Markhkg: This is an excellent point. I was reviewing Flight Attendant manuals, and one from a particularly well known carrier noted that in a single year, the
36 Outlier: And um, who, um /cough cough/ would that be?
37 HAWK21M: Thats High.What airline. regds MEL
38 CYatUK: Correct. I was not sure exactly what it was but I have now checked and indeed the paper said that they had a take off configuration warning together
39 OPNLguy: The Take-off configuration warning is a system designed to alert the crew that the aircraft is not properly configured for takeoff. It's armed when o
40 PlanesNTrains: No, that's not possible. Only Alaska Airlines has them! (tongue in cheek) No, that's not possible. It can only be a Menzies issue! (tongue in cheek)
41 F9Animal: I will have the respect of any life lost (Employees and customers). Darned right I always say the same thing. Pretty sad I have to repeat myself so o
42 OPNLguy: I doubt this will sink in, but do you have any idea how cheesy and classless it looks when you make statements like the above with respect to one of
43 PlanesNTrains: Just looking back at some recent incidents: December 26, Alaska Airlines Flight 536: En route to Burbank, from Seattle, flight 536 made an emergency l
44 Post contains links F9Animal: Really? http://www.fulldisclosure.net/flash/VideoBlogs/VideoBlog34.php
45 PlanesNTrains: Not that it matters, but I thought he said at one time that he wasn't an F9 employee. He could be, or he could have been making it up - I'm not sure.
47 OPNLguy: Perhaps. If he's an airline employee at SEA that works for someone other than F9, the essential point remains unchanged. Oh well...
48 PlanesNTrains: I agree. His repetitive mantra on the AS/Menzies theme has been way overdone, to the point that it takes away from the thread. Just my opinion. -Dave
49 F9Animal: No, not employed with F9. Not employed at SEA. So I am not posting against a competitor, if that is what you are concerned about. Just the facts and
50 OPNLguy: Makes you wonder if he's not a former AS ramper that is no longer one due to the outsourcing, and maybe indeed now works for someone else. Whatever h
51 Robsawatsky: " target=_blank>http://www.fulldisclosure.net/flash/...4.php I fail to see any specific evidence from this webpage of any systemic connection to the p
52 F9Animal: I did not start the Menzies part of it. I rest my case. Good thinking part on BCAInfoSys's part though. Makes ya wonder!
53 OPNLguy: As you see it, from the outside, not being an AS employee. Are you a former AS ramper who lost their job in the outsourcing?
54 CYatUK: Thanks.
55 F9Animal: No, I did not work for AS. I did however personally witness the disaster unfold. I have many frustrations about the way AS is and has become. AS went
56 Lono: I have to agree with this.... and I have flown AS for many many years...... it is not the same airline it once was.... Now I only fly AS when I have
57 PlanesNTrains: I understand and respect this comment, but my question is, which airline is it that has remained unchanged for many many years - to the point that yo
58 Gmcc: I think this the most interesting thing in the whole thread. While we could go on forever about how airlines used to, I think that the more interesti
59 Lono: Excellent point... I guess the industry has changed for good and it really does not matter who used to do what and how they used to do it..... it jus
60 PlanesNTrains: Ya, I think the problem is that Alaska USED TO stand out, and now they don't and it makes them seem worse than they probably are. Two items I'd conce
61 F9Animal: YEEEEE HAAAWWWWW! AMEN! OH MY ALLAH! GAFILTA FISH!!!!! And Elvis has left the stage. Please read above, regarding Menzies.
62 PlanesNTrains: For God's sake, give it a rest. You aren't saying anything you haven't said 100 times including in this thread. Uh, in case you didn't realize it, ma
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