Jkw777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (6 years 9 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 6340 times:
Hi there,
I just had a thought about IR and their 741's. I shot one at LHR a few weeks ago and I was curious as to when they would probably stop flying them? They must be getting quite old now!!
Kaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 11950 posts, RR: 37 Reply 1, posted (6 years 9 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 6305 times:
Iran Air has four 747s, one remaining -SP (out of four), one -100B and two -200 Combis, the newest aircraft are 1979 veterans, the others, 1976. How long will they operate them, well - as long as they have to. There are sanctions in place and unfortunately, IR is a victim of these, so it'll just have to continue to operate them as long as it can.
The continuing stand-off over nuclear power is working against them; ironically, the EU offer to the Iranians included a number of incentives, including new commercial aircraft (the US was also willing to allow parts to be acquired for these Boeings); however, with Iran's part in supplying the Hezzies, I'm not sure if that still stands. The Iranians have until the end of the month, but Pres. Ahmedinejad's most recent comments don't give much hope for compromise.
AirAmericaC46 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 590 posts, RR: 1 Reply 2, posted (6 years 9 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 6256 times:
Anybody knows all the routes of IR 747-100 in the past? and year or decade of service?
I have a HOMA (Iran Air in-flight magazine) circa1978 and it says inside that IR inaugurated a 747 THR-Shiraz-Rome route that year-----anybody knows if it was a 741 or 747SP? I miss those glory years of IR during the Shah Reza Pahlavi regime when IR 747SP was a regular at JFK via LHR or CDG.
CptGirmayTesfa From Peru, joined Oct 2003, 406 posts, RR: 3 Reply 6, posted (6 years 9 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 6171 times:
For the moment you can see the 747 (200 / 100 / SP ) in the following places:
London Heathrow / Manchester
Paris Orly / Geneva
Cologne / Hamburg / Frankfurt / Vienna
Copenhagen / Gothenburg / Stockholm
Damascus
Larnaca
Jeddah
Dubai
Karachi
Mumbai
Kuala Lumpur
Beijing
Tokyo
Note that equipment changes are frequent and many time Airbus A300 show up instead. Other international destinations usually are served by airbus A300 or A310 but again always a possibility that sometimes the 747 shows up.
Sorry if a missed a few, this is all from my memory!
A388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9067 posts, RR: 13 Reply 8, posted (6 years 9 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 6061 times:
Indeed a very unique photo nowadays. Congrats Justin! How many airlines are still using the 747-100 on international routes? I can only think of Iran Air....?
Jkw777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 9, posted (6 years 9 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 6039 times:
Quoting A388 (Reply 8): Indeed a very unique photo nowadays. Congrats Justin! How many airlines are still using the 747-100 on international routes? I can only think of Iran Air....?
Thanks!!
I think JAL use them, Thai Orient as passenger aircraft. For freight Kalitta Air, and Evergreen International Cargo. Not many, if any, others thought?!
EP-IAB has been grounded since some time now (probably late 2004 or early 2005) but will be back into service soon, after EGPWS installation (mandatory since March 2005).
To stay on topic, I think IR has no really choice but to keep their current fleet flying. They can't get anything else due to the embargo. So they try to keep the aircraft in a "as-best-as-possible" condition with what they have, i.e. other grounded aircraft parts, homemade modifications and probably parts from illegal markets. Money is probably not the problem.
AA767400 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 2271 posts, RR: 25 Reply 14, posted (6 years 9 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 5964 times:
B727fan From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 292 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (6 years 9 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 5940 times:
back in the good old days of pre-revolutionary Iran, my folks took a tour and apparently I have made a historic flight on IR! According to my dad, that was the last IR flight to US, THR-LHR-JFK (most probably 747SP)!! I vividly remember, the crew showed us the cockpit, and as a child, I was totally mesmerized by all the lights and gauges surrounding me! WOW!
My good friends who visit IR tell me that there are alot of Russian aircrafts are in service (mainly domestically). I wonder if due to the sanctions, IR will turn to Russia and renew its fleet with TU's and IL's paying in Euros and not Dollars!
Thomas_Jaeger From Switzerland, joined Apr 2002, 2266 posts, RR: 31 Reply 17, posted (6 years 9 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 5884 times:
Well, what they, Mahan Air and others have started doing extensively now is just wet-leasing aircraft in to get around the embargo. Iran Air currently uses an A300B4-200 wet-leased form Onur Air. Mahan Air uses Armenian, Bulgarian, Egyptian, French and Turkish registered aircraft wet-leased from various carriers. Kish, Qeshm and Safiran are or have been doing the same.
Swiss aviation news junkie living all over the place
Good observation though, it is indeed a 741 but its a 747-100B, meaning that it has a lot more in common with the 747-200 than did the venerable 747-100 proper.
Falstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 5671 posts, RR: 29 Reply 19, posted (6 years 9 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 5847 times:
Slightly off the subject, but still an Iranian 747-100 question. Does anyone know what the fate of TWA 747-131 N93101 was? It was sold to the Iranian Air Force in 1975
Ordryan28 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 988 posts, RR: 17 Reply 20, posted (6 years 9 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 5812 times:
this is a great thread to discuss. same thing with NW's DC-9s. they will use them (or have) until as long as they need them. if the maintenance on the aircraft is kept up, it's almost as good as new. I still don't think IR will be flying these aircraft more than a year....?
-Ryan
Whoever said winning is not everything never fought cancer.
KC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 11705 posts, RR: 52 Reply 21, posted (6 years 9 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 5775 times:
Quoting Falstaff (Reply 19): Slightly off the subject, but still an Iranian 747-100 question. Does anyone know what the fate of TWA 747-131 N93101 was? It was sold to the Iranian Air Force in 1975
The IIAF actually bought 12 B-747-100s. IIRC 8 of these were former airliners and 4 were new builds. They were converted into KC-747s. The IIAF lost one in a thunderstorm near Spain, IIRC. Only 1, however is still flying today.
RAFVC10 From Spain, joined Sep 2005, 1980 posts, RR: 8 Reply 22, posted (6 years 9 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 5722 times:
Quoting BoogyJay (Reply 12): EP-IAD is the only -SP flying today.
Syrian Arab Airlines is flying the SP to LHR from DAM frequently.
Quoting Jkw777 (Thread starter): I just had a thought about IR and their 741's. I shot one at LHR a few weeks ago and I was curious as to when they would probably stop flying them? They must be getting quite old now!!
When United States eliminate the ban over US products. Maybe, Iran will follow the steps of Zimbabwe, Syria and Cuba buying IL-96-400's, TU-204's and remembering that AN-140 equipment is in production in the Middle East country.
Quoting A388 (Reply 8): Indeed a very unique photo nowadays. Congrats Justin! How many airlines are still using the 747-100 on international routes?
Quoting Jkw777 (Reply 9): I think JAL use them, Thai Orient as passenger aircraft. For freight Kalitta Air, and Evergreen International Cargo. Not many, if any, others thought?!
Saudia is operating this aircraft in domestic routes.
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CX777Fan From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 289 posts, RR: 1 Reply 23, posted (6 years 9 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 4366 times:
I almost went to Iran for a holiday last year before moving from Tokyo back to Australia. From Tokyo it was a big toss up whether to book IR for the chance of a flight on the 747SP that was visiting regularly or flying Aeroflot for my first ride on a TU-154 - from Moscow to Tehran. Alas, the holiday plans didn't get off the ground due to limited finances thanks to moving to Sydney
I still desperately hope to get to Iran to experience the famous Persain warmth and hospitality and to fly some beatiful IR metal. Some very well travelled friends spent a month in Iran last year and said it was the best country by far they had ever visited. The majority of middle class, well educated citizens live their day to day lives in spite of the lunatic government and wish more enlightened travellers could share their nation's beauty, history, Muslim arcitecture and rich culture.
Currently according to schedules in East Asia the SP is doing Mumbai, Beijing, Tokyo and Seoul, 741/2 in Kuala Lumpur which also got SP previously, Karachi is with A310 since a long time.
SP was also used to Dhaka in the past which has been dropped.
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