King From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 5700 times:
The article mentioned WN saying Mexico was just a matter of when and not if. With the land grab currently taking place, what will be left for WN?
As for Central America, do we know if Frontier has rights to fly beyond CUN to Belize, Honduras, Costa Rica or even out to one of the Caribbean destinations such as Jamaica? Can F9 use CUN as a connecting city for the purpose of gaining more range and possible feed?
I have a feeling that when WN applies for Mexico service, they will do so with a vengeance. They'll probably apply for 7 or 8 routes just to get things going. Not sure about DIA to Mexico, more like PHX, MDW and several California airports.
Dutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 56
Reply 7, posted (9 years 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 5587 times:
Quoting Mariner (Reply 6): Perhaps the RMN reporter, Chris Walsh, got a trip to CUN on Frontier, because there's an article about Cancun in the same edtion.
You are simply too clever, Mariner.
Interesting article about Frontier, there are a couple of errors (ie, JetBlue will be flying JFK-CUN and not EWR-CUN) but its better researched than most articles about commerical aviation that appear in the general press.
I find it odd that Frontier itself referred to CUN as a hub....Frontier does not offer any connection possibilites at CUN. Hub, to me, implies connections, focus cities, to me, simply means cities with a good amount of service.
It will certainly be interesting to see how Frontier does with the Denver-GDL route.....a route more oriented to business travellers instead of leisure pax, and MEX must be in F9's future plans.
Fly727 From Mexico, joined Jul 2003, 1791 posts, RR: 17
Reply 8, posted (9 years 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 5585 times:
Quoting Mariner (Reply 6): The Mexican airlines are reasonably well protected by the bilateral.
Sure do, but my point is that many city pairs are being operated only by US carriers while the newcomers south of the border doesn't seem to bother. Anyway, I always liked WN's pretzels over salted peanuts here.
There are no stupid questions... just stupid people!
Kohflot From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (9 years 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 5423 times:
Quoting Mariner (Reply 9): an analyst referred to CUN as a hub and the CEO said "it's okay to call it a hub."
Though F9 doesn't offer any passenger connections through CUN, it's likely a 'hub' in the sense that it gives the airline the opportunity to swap aircraft around for maintenance, etc.
Quoting King (Reply 3): With the land grab currently taking place, what will be left for WN?
I don't think WN will necessarily be interested in Mexico's beach resorts. Has anyone noticed the traffic signs at HOU are both in English and Spanish? I know HOU doesn't have immigration and customs facilities (yet), but I doubt most the people that read the Spanish part of those signs are from Cancun or Los Cabos. I bet Southwest's first foray into Mexico is for the benefit of VFR and any business traffic - and they might even be their first redeyes, with the common practice of late night transborder travel. Aircraft can leave SAT, ELP, ABQ, PHX, LAS, MDW, and HOU (eventually) after a long day of domestic flying (with connecting traffic onboard too).. operate into Mexican cities like GDL, MTY, TAM, AGU, TLC, BJX, DGO.. and be back in the morning for another day of domestic flying.
Decent fares could mean the 'Southwest effect' isn't limited to our borders. Southwest is keenly aware of the developing latino market in this country. Hence http://www.southwest.com/vamonos/ ..
ScottB From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 7151 posts, RR: 31
Reply 21, posted (9 years 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4996 times:
Quoting King (Reply 3): The article mentioned WN saying Mexico was just a matter of when and not if. With the land grab currently taking place, what will be left for WN?
The sole issue may be availability of operating authorities to the cities Southwest might try to serve in Mexico, but the real "land grab" on those sorts of routes appears to only be happening in places like LAX, NYC, and South Florida. And in any event, the two key business routes of LAX-MEX and LAX-GDL have been tied-up for years. If HOU had sufficient facilities, HOU-MEX/MTY/GDL would be excellent routes for WN.
And in any event, Southwest has served Mexican customers for decades with their flights to border cities like HRL, ELP, SAN, and TUS.