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UA 747 In Hahn HHN Saturday  
User currently offlineTS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (8 years 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 7435 times:

Hey guys,

She was standing on the tarmac Saturday evening. Does anyone know what kind of flight this was?

Thomas

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User currently offlineMcdu From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 1459 posts, RR: 17
Reply 1, posted (8 years 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 7414 times:

If you can get a tail number or fleet # from the side of the airplane I can find it very quickly.

Thanks


User currently offlineN174UA From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 994 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 7414 times:

Probably military-related. I think Kaiserslautern is close by.

Otherwise, a UA captain has a lot of explaining to do as to why #916 or #900 landed at the wrong airport...  Wink


User currently offlineTS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (8 years 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 7372 times:

Quoting Mcdu (Reply 1):
If you can get a tail number or fleet # from the side of the airplane I can find it very quickly.

Sorry, I didn't get the tail number as I was too far away.


User currently offlineTS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 7296 times:

I just looked up in the ACARS database: Could be N175UA, probably on her way to KWI?

User currently offlineCALMSP From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3939 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (8 years 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 7145 times:
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i belive many who used to fly through FRA for crew changes are now stopping in HHN on their way to KWI


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User currently offlineLaxintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25062 posts, RR: 46
Reply 6, posted (8 years 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 7065 times:

HHN is a significantly cheaper airport to operate from and has no curfew restrictions unlike FRA.


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User currently offlineN174UA From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 994 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 3 days ago) and read 6963 times:

Quoting CALMSP (Reply 5):
i belive many who used to fly through FRA for crew changes are now stopping in HHN on their way to KWI



Quoting CALMSP (Reply 5):
HHN is a significantly cheaper airport to operate from and has no curfew restrictions unlike FRA.

But UA doesn't normally fly into HHN, so neither of these explanations explain why the UA 744 was in HHN.


User currently offlineTeneriffe77 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 468 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 3 days ago) and read 6930 times:

I think that these are troop related flights in relation to the ongoing american operations in the middle east. I was looking at flightware.com a few weeks ago and noticed that a UA 747 that landed at Fort Drum, NY had originated at Hahn.
BTW Fort Drum's code is GTB


User currently offlineVEEREF From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 6895 times:

Tech stop for a military charter, barring any type of wx diversion.
We use HHN as a tech stop/crew change for AMC charters now, instead of FRA.


User currently offline1011 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 315 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 6850 times:

Today a Ua 747 came into San Diego Miramar bringing back troops. I couldn't get the tail number on tv, but it was a new color 747.

User currently offlineBicoastal From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 6850 times:

And for all of you San Diego spotters, a United 747 (in new colors) full of marines returning from the Iraq, landed at Miramar Marine Corps Air Station today.

Long live Miramar as a base SOLELY for our military with no joint use or civilian incursion.


User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16857 posts, RR: 51
Reply 12, posted (8 years 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 6819 times:

There's several flights a week (mostly Polar Air Cargo) between Hahn and McGuire AFB, there's actually one scheduled today.


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User currently offlineDw9115 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 449 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (8 years 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 6639 times:

Quoting N174UA (Reply 2):
Probably military-related. I think Kaiserslautern is close by.



Quoting Teneriffe77 (Reply 8):
I think that these are troop related flights in relation to the ongoing american operations in the middle east.

These flights go through Ramstein Airbase a few miles down the road they even finished a really nice terminal a few years ago for this very reason and the fact that Rhein-Mien was closing.


User currently offlineMjt909 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 37 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (8 years 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 6115 times:

I was driving back to San Diego from Big Bear Lake today and I saw a UA 747 at March ARB (RIV). Anyone know where it's going? I was too far away to get a tail number (plus I was driving, so it wouldn't have been a good idea to try).

User currently offlineCactus739 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2444 posts, RR: 31
Reply 15, posted (8 years 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 5806 times:

I was born at Hahn Air Base...March 1976... Hahn was a US Air Base for many years.... kinda fitting that they're using it again on military stops...

How long ago did the USAF leave Hahn?



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User currently offlineJoelatbsl From Switzerland, joined Jan 2005, 158 posts, RR: 10
Reply 16, posted (8 years 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 5317 times:

Quoting Laxintl (Reply 6):

Actually FRA has no curfew restrictions - yet...

JOEL


User currently offlineTheSonntag From Germany, joined Jun 2005, 3564 posts, RR: 29
Reply 17, posted (8 years 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 5067 times:

Quoting N174UA (Reply 2):
Probably military-related. I think Kaiserslautern is close by.

As the others have said, that is not the case, HHN is probably 200-300km from Kaiserslautern. Ramstein is close to Kaiserslautern.

However, HHN is still getting a lot of military cargo. Many military flights go from HHN to support the German troops in Afghanistan, and there are also lots of other cargo operators in HHN.

The troops left some years ago, but you can still see the barracks, in fact you park in the middle of some military buildings. Apart from that, HHN is really in the middle of nowhere. There is nothing around.


User currently offlineMymiles2go From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 207 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (8 years 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4983 times:

Does anybody know roughly how many aircraft are set aside for military charter ops? I only ask because it's the middle of the busy summer season and it seems like there are at least two aircraft (based on this thread) that are not flying regularly scheduled flights and are doing charter ops.

User currently offlineJAGflyer From Canada, joined Aug 2004, 3509 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (8 years 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 4648 times:

A "Hahn-circle" charter.

:D Big grin



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User currently onlinePanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 9278 posts, RR: 29
Reply 20, posted (8 years 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 4543 times:

Quoting Dw9115 (Reply 13):
These flights go through Ramstein Airbase a few miles down the road they even finished a really nice terminal a few years ago for this very reason and the fact that Rhein-Mien was closing

Actually,some of these flights go through HHN as well, many Omni DC10 and 752s for instance. A UA 747 used to be seen at FRA during "off" hours, that may be the flights which are using HHN now.

Quoting TheSonntag (Reply 17):

As the others have said, that is not the case, HHN is probably 200-300km from Kaiserslautern. Ramstein is close to Kaiserslautern.

Lautzenhausen (HHN) to Kaiserslautern is exactly 89 km, to Ramstein make it about 100 km. When the Air Force left. this was "inh the middle of noewhere", actually now, Ryanair and a couple of cargo airlines put some life again into the airport and the number of people directly emplyed is approaching 3000, the area around is thriving again and Hotels and Restaurants are not as cheap any longer as they used to be.



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User currently offlineHT From Germany, joined May 2005, 6525 posts, RR: 23
Reply 21, posted (8 years 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 4490 times:

Quoting Cactus739 (Reply 15):
How long ago did the USAF leave Hahn?

Conversion took place in 1993.
see also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt_Hahn_Airport
-HT

Quoting TheSonntag (Reply 17):
As the others have said, that is not the case, HHN is probably 200-300km from Kaiserslautern.

Make that 103 km (64 mi) according to my route planner (highway to Nohfelden, then motorways).
-HT



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User currently offlineTheSonntag From Germany, joined Jun 2005, 3564 posts, RR: 29
Reply 22, posted (8 years 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 4441 times:

Quoting HT (Reply 21):
Make that 103 km (64 mi) according to my route planner (highway to Nohfelden, then motorways).
-HT

Ok, you are right, of course... Infrastructure in that area leaves something to be desired, though... Not to speak of the rediculous speed limit of the A61 motorway of 130 km/h  Wink

It is true that HHN is the only airport where conversion really worked out well, and I find this rather surprising given the area where the airport is. But most of the buildings of the military base are rather empty, though, correct?


User currently offlineSflaflight From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1183 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (7 years 12 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3029 times:

Definately UA military chartered flight. She I was at ORD on July 30. I was waiting for my TED flight to leave to FLL and right next to the Lufthansa Flight (B17) was UA 9??? to HHN and continuing to KWI. It departed from B15. The interesting thing about the flight was that while it still was early, most pax waiting for the flight were in civilian clothing. I want to say maybe it was for clerical staff as well.

User currently offlineFRAspotter From United States of America, joined May 2004, 2348 posts, RR: 9
Reply 24, posted (7 years 12 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3021 times:

Quoting Dw9115 (Reply 13):
These flights go through Ramstein Airbase a few miles down the road they even finished a really nice terminal a few years ago for this very reason and the fact that Rhein-Mien was closing.

That's right. I've lived in the Ramstein/Kaiserslautern Area and just graduated from Kaiserslautern High School this past spring. The new terminal was built about 4 years ago. There are many civilian planes chartered by the military that fly through Ramstein. When Rhein Main closed last year, they had to double the size of the infrastructure on base to meet the larger numbers of planes. Ramstein is now the military gateway to many places in Africa and Asia. On busy days, they might have planes landing and taking off about every other minute all day long (believe me, they flew right over my house).



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25 Ikramerica : How do they determine F/C/Y+/Y seating on military charters?
26 747loadmaster : I work flights in RMS and HHN, that is a mil charter every Sunday for United with a B747-400. Frankfurt kicked all mil charter work out and if you get
27 Mymiles2go : Generally speaking it's officers in the back, and enlisted up front. (Yes, they really do put the enlisted guys up front).
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