EMA747 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 1171 posts, RR: 1 Posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 9116 times:
I am just wondering what operators use heavies on short haul routes in Europe. Don't KLM use an A330 on their LHR-AMS route sometimes? Also don't SQ use a 744 on MAN-ZRH or something like that?
Does anybody know of any other similar operations? I would like to try flying a few if I can. Would really like to fly a 777 again but can't think of any short haul routes using them in Europe.
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Dutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 56
Reply 2, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 9065 times:
Check the LH schedules, they frequently use their A300s on routes from FRA to London and Athens, and on domestic legs within Germany. BA uses 763s on some high demand European routes but the number of 763 flights has been reduced as BA has converted some of their Europe configured 763s to longhaul standard for longer range flights. Olympic sends its A340s to London and sometimes Paris, I am not sure if their schedule shows which flights are operated with the A340. Another idea is to check schedules from LHR.....Iberia has used A340s on the LHR-MAD route during certain periods and its not unusual to see a TAP assign a widebody to the LHR-LIS route.
Aside from BA and LH, and a tag-on flight from an Asian airline, you will have to do some research to find ""heavies"" on the short European segments....also note that schedules change frequently and the widebody may only be assigned to a specific route for a few days or weeks to acommodate increased demand.
Even on the KL flight between LHR and AMS....there are frequently equipment swaps, although one widebody is generally sent from AMS to LHR every day (to move cargo), it may not be the flight originally scheduled and it many not be the airplane that you expected.
Cornish From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 8187 posts, RR: 53
Reply 14, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 8513 times:
Although its not regualr, the recent problems at LHR saw some interesting European operations, thanks to the emergency measures of flight cutting. As I arrived into T2 on monday last week, there was a CSA A310 sitting at the next stand. Can't recall seeing that at LHR before.
As mentioned above LH, schedule an A300 for at least two of their services to FRA a day, including the mid-afternoon flight.
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MH017 From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 1706 posts, RR: 29
Reply 15, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 8494 times:
Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 2): Even on the KL flight between LHR and AMS....there are frequently equipment swaps, although one widebody is generally sent from AMS to LHR every day (to move cargo), it may not be the flight originally scheduled and it many not be the airplane that you expected
Dutchjet is right, however, the planned KLM widebody flights for LHR are like below (all in UTC):
FLT NO: KL1007 D/S: W06
NR PERIOD FREQ A/C D TECHN CONFIG/PP FIRST FLT NEXT FLT
01 29OCT06 18FEB07 3 7 763 C 30C 190M 4 KL1008
02 30OCT06 24MAR07 12 456 332 A 30C 221M 6 KL1008
03 21FEB07 21MAR07 3 7 332 A 30C 221M 6 KL1008
meaning: daily 332 on KL1007/KL1008 as from 21feb07