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User currently offlineAmerican777 From United States of America, joined Nov 2009, 0 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2927 times:

Boeing today re-delivered to KE their first 747-400BCF.

Here is a link on the First KE Special Freighter Delivery.

As far as I know these are the orders that have been place so far:

CX: 6 firm/6 options

KE: 7 firm/13 options

JL: 8 firm/4 options

CC: 4 firm/no options

Total: 25 firm/23 options

Am I missing any other BCF orders that have been placed recently? If so which.

Thanks for the replies.

Cheers!

JOE.  airplane 

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User currently offlineAirbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4277 posts, RR: 51
Reply 1, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2891 times:

MP will take 3 (ex SQ) if I'm right. First one to become PH-MPP.

JL's second will be re-delivered in Dec-06 being JA8909, currently having conversion at XMN/Taeco.



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User currently offlineA342 From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 4700 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2882 times:

Quoting American777 (Thread starter):
Am I missing any other BCF orders that have been placed recently? If so which.

Guggenheim ?



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User currently offlineSP90 From United States of America, joined May 2006, 388 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2642 times:

The article mentions something about a freighter kit. Does anyone know what exactly is included in this conversion kit? Window plugs, extra cargo doors...?

User currently offlineAndrewtang From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 461 posts, RR: 10
Reply 4, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 2491 times:

The freighter conversion kit includes aircraft avionics system upgrade, cargo loader system, side cargo door kit (Non-744M), window plugs and cargo deck cabin wall.

User currently offlineTod From Denmark, joined Aug 2004, 1729 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2424 times:

Quoting Andrewtang (Reply 4):
The freighter conversion kit includes aircraft avionics system upgrade, cargo loader system, side cargo door kit (Non-744M), window plugs and cargo deck cabin wall.

...and upperdeck cabin reconfiguration including new galley and lav, aft upperdeck floorbeam replacement/relocation, main deck floor structure upgrades, conditioned air system rework, lav/galley vent system removal, forward lower cargo heating system rework, cargo floor drain system installation, vacuum waste system removal, water system rework, etc.

Tod


User currently offlinePanAm_DC10 From Australia, joined Aug 2000, 4217 posts, RR: 89
Reply 6, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2402 times:
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Quoting A342 (Reply 2):
Guggenheim ?

Yes Guggenheim have ordered 5 x 744BCF and 2 x 744 Combi-Freighter conversions for a total of 7.

http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/2005/q4/nr_051018g.html

It would appear that QF may well be added to the 744BCF list shortly too.

Regards, PanAm_DC10



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User currently offlineAMSSFO From Netherlands, joined Feb 2005, 952 posts, RR: 10
Reply 7, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2275 times:

Quoting PanAm_DC10 (Reply 6):
Yes Guggenheim have ordered 5 x 744BCF



Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 1):
MP will take 3 (ex SQ) if I'm right. First one to become PH-MPP.

MP's order of four ex-SQ is part of the Guggenheim order


User currently offlineSP90 From United States of America, joined May 2006, 388 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2206 times:

Quoting Andrewtang (Reply 4):
The freighter conversion kit includes aircraft avionics system upgrade, cargo loader system, side cargo door kit (Non-744M), window plugs and cargo deck cabin wall.



Quoting Tod (Reply 5):
...and upperdeck cabin reconfiguration including new galley and lav, aft upperdeck floorbeam replacement/relocation, main deck floor structure upgrades, conditioned air system rework, lav/galley vent system removal, forward lower cargo heating system rework, cargo floor drain system installation, vacuum waste system removal, water system rework, etc.

Never knew that much went into converting a passenger aircraft for cargo. This sounds complicated and very time consuming. Is the finished product the same empty weight as a factory build cargo version? Would there be certain items from the passenger version that cannot be removed but serve mo purpose in cargo hauling?


User currently offlineTod From Denmark, joined Aug 2004, 1729 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2180 times:

Quoting SP90 (Reply 8):
Is the finished product the same empty weight as a factory build cargo version?

The factory version is slightly heavier due to the nose cargo door.

Tod


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