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Purdue Vs. Erau  
User currently offlineN766AS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (13 years 10 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 6104 times:

I have read many threads about what college to go to for flight training to get into the big airlines. Well after reading more and more, I think I have narrowed down my top two choices to Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University and Purdue School of Technology, Aviation Dept.
I have a few questions for students, past students, and anyone else who may know:
How do the programs compare?
How much does each cost (approximately)?
How do airlines look at each?
Scholarships that may apply?
Anything else you may know that would affect one's decision on which to go to (I still have a couple years, but want to get an idea of where I am going) would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance for the assistance!


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User currently offlineMitchell Gant From Montserrat, joined Aug 2000, 253 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (13 years 10 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 5951 times:

I've said it many times on this forum....assume the FLIGHT programs at both schools to be equal. Looking beyond that, you have to look at the intangibles each school has to offer. Remember, you are not just going to be spending your day flying. I would suggest you look at the big picture. You have the choice between a school with WORLDWIDE recognition in many fields and disiplines, or a school that has worldwide recognition in one field (aviation). For the intangibles combined with name recognition and value, Purdue University should be your choice.

User currently offlineN766AS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (13 years 10 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 5934 times:

I do agree with that. At least with Purdue, you can have a non-aviation carrer to fall back on.... hmm.....

User currently offlineMitchell Gant From Montserrat, joined Aug 2000, 253 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (13 years 10 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 5934 times:

I made the choice of Purdue over ERAU 10 years ago and I am very glad I did so. I am now considering a non-aviation career, and I am certain that my Purdue degree will put me a better position to switch fields.

User currently offlineN766AS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (13 years 10 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 5938 times:

Thanks for that info!
How would you say Purdue costs compared to ERAU? Even if you don't have any numbers, do you know if ERAU more expensive, extremely more expensive, etc., for its complete flight training than that of Purdue's? Money isn't really the top issue currently, but just wondering how they compare. I have heard ERAU's four year program can get up to about $200K.


User currently offlineLordOfTheFlys From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 79 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (13 years 10 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 5928 times:

Wow 200k! *catches his breath* If it is 200k I see no way they can justify that. Unless they give each student an airplane upon graduation. You can earn every rating you will need via your friendly local flight school for about 1/10 the price. I agree with N766AS, you would be smart to major in a non aviation related field. Heaven forbid you poke your eye out and are unable to fly for a living.

User currently offlineMitchell Gant From Montserrat, joined Aug 2000, 253 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (13 years 10 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 5923 times:

I don't know for sure but when I last looked ERAU was more expensive then Purdue (out of state tuition).

User currently offlineDIA77 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 704 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (13 years 10 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 5924 times:

In support of what Mitchell says, Purdue and Erau both have great programs, but Purdue has a lot more to offer. I'm a senior in Elec. Eng. (I'm still an airline nut)at Purdue and I have never had regrets about going to school there.

User currently offlineDALMD88 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2534 posts, RR: 14
Reply 8, posted (13 years 10 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 5921 times:

Both are good schools. I got a Maint. Managment degree from Riddle and I have no regrets. I also know quite a few alumni from the 70's that got out of aviation and their Riddle degrees have served them well. I suggest visiting both schools. BTW if you take out flight fees Riddle is a bargin for a four year private school.

User currently offlineRL757PVD From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4646 posts, RR: 11
Reply 9, posted (13 years 10 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 5918 times:

I Visited ERAU in DAB two weeks ago and i have been adicted since. The Campus was beautiful. As for the programs, if you want an aviation core, ERAU is best, if you want the opportunity of a non aviation core Perdue may work. All i know is since i want an aviation core for Aviation Business Admin I am going to go where i know the aviation education is best.( ERAU DAB has alot mroe coarse variety than Prescott)


Experience is what you get when what you thought would work out didn't!
User currently offlineN863DA From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 48 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (13 years 10 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 5914 times:

I go to ERAU in DAB, and I can tell you that the programs are excellent here. (tho I am not going to say better than Purdue - they're both probably as good)

Unfortunately the fees over the four years are going to cost about $120,000 with flight and there is no discount for living in state. (I live just up the road, but it makes no difference because they're an independant college.)

There are hundreds of majors you can do here, obviously all to do with Aviaiton, but not all to do with flying itself.

As for social life, there is no nice way to put this, but there are a few Aviation Freaks (no offense, but you know what I mean) here - who live, sleep, talk and walk airplanes. While that's fine, there is some lack of things to do for some people - IE there's always something to do, but it may not suit you all the time!

I'm enjoying ERAU but I'm not going to say that we're better than Purdue or any other because I don't believe we are, (unlike some people here) and I also haven't visited any other college!

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User currently offlineWilcharl From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1166 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (13 years 10 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 5906 times:

Im @ ERAU in DAB and I think alot of people still see us as a flt. school.. Our Aerospace Enginnering Dept. just got rated #1 in the country, we have alot of business majors and even a communications major... I sometimes questioned if I made the right choice comming here... This changed in the summer of 99 when I went to work for airtran and saw the ERAU alumni in the industry. (i dont know any perdue alumni, but i do know of AUburn and UND)



User currently offlinePurdue Arrow From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1574 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (13 years 10 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 5901 times:

Other people have summed it up very well... I'm sure that they are both outstanding schools. As a Purdue student, though, I obviously think Purdue is better, or else I would have chosen ERAU. There were a couple of main factors that influenced my decision. As a Big Ten university, Purdue is a world-class institution in many disciplines. This means that you have other opportunities to pursue outside interests, perhaps even having a double-major or a minor. Secondly, Purdue was reccommended to me by the AA Pilot Mentor Program, an arm of the Allied Pilots Association. An upper-level executive from United who was on campus last week for a ceremony for our 737 went so far as to call Purdue "the best aviation school in the world." At least one regional airline, Chautauqua, has confirmed that they would prefer to hire a 300-hour Purdue grad than a 1500-hour pilot who did not come out of Purdue.

While I'm sure the quality of flight training is comparable for both schools, Purdue offers some opportunities that ERAU can't because, ironically enough, they are too big. Purdue is the only university I know of, for example, that runs a corporate flight department to transport staff members and guests of the university. Every time one of our King Air B200s makes a trip, there is a flight student flying right seat, logging twin turbine time. Every time our Beechjet 400A makes a flight, there is a student flying right seat. The opportunities are great.

As far as cost goes, I don't have any info. on ERAU's cost, but you can expect to spend about $100,000-$120,000 for a four-year Purdue education, including all flight fees, living expenses, and out of state tuition.

Even though we're in Indiana, Purdue is a great school and has a great campus. While we are surrounded by farm land, the campus itself, as well as the cities of West Lafayette and Lafayette, are quite nice. The campus is all red-brick building, with many garden/fountain/study areas around. I think you should probably make a visit to each campus to get an idea of where to go, but I never visited Purdue before coming here. Finally, one last word about the quality of our program... I have never, ever heard a student in Purdue's flight program express any regret whatsoever over their decision to attend Purdue - never. I have, on the other hand, met students from several other universities who were absolutely envious of those of us who do attend Purdue.


User currently offlineDelta15 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 617 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (13 years 10 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 5887 times:

I was wondering if someone can tell me what kind of grades you need to have to get into purdue? I went from a 3.1 my freshmen year to a 3.5 my sophomore year. Now that im in my junior year I am doing very welll, and dont expect to get less than a 3.9. If my average over the three years is a 3.5 do I have a chance at getting into Purdue? I know that a college like purdue is real selective. Maybe Purde Arrow can help me out with this. BTW, what were your Sat scores, and grades like?

User currently offlineN766AS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (13 years 10 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 5885 times:

Thanks for all the info so far!
When the time comes, I may just have to visit both campuses. Good question, Delta15. Just wondering that myself.


User currently offlineTeahan From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 5293 posts, RR: 61
Reply 15, posted (13 years 10 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 5879 times:

I live in Ireland. I am wondering what I would have to do to get into either. I am not interested in flying but more in airline management. Do Purdue offer courses in that too and what fees are to be considered?

I could also go to England. Both Loughsborough and Buckinghamshire offer airline management courses. What about those? How are they.

Anyplace else in Europe I could go?

Remember that I am a non rev and will hopefully have non rev facilities for the forseeable future!

You would truly help me with my career guidance projetc!

Thank You!

Jeremiah Teahan



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User currently offlinePurdue Arrow From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1574 posts, RR: 8
Reply 16, posted (13 years 10 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 5871 times:

I honestly don't know what the minimums are for Purdue's program, but our small size makes it reasonable selective... we take about 60-75 freshmen each year into the flight program, I think. For what it's worth, my GPA was about 3.7ish, which put me in the top 25% of my class. My SAT score was 1400 (690 math/710 verbal), and my ACT composite was 35. Purdue is becoming more selective starting this year, due to the fact that the campus is beginning to suffer from overcrowding, but I don't think that the AvTech (Aviation Technology) program will get any more selective as we are already such a small part of the university. If you are interested, this page has info. on the flight program, including a course list.

Teahan - Purdue does offer a major in Aviation Administration, which is essentially airline/airport/corporate aviation department management. I think that there is less demand for that program, but it is about the same size as teh flight program, so it is probably easier to get into. In that major, there would be no flight fees, of course, so the total cost of the education would be reduced by about $20,000-$25,000. On top of that, you would not need to purchase the very expensive pilot supplies that flight majors need to buy. This link has some information on the program, including the curriculum.


User currently offlinePurdue Arrow From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1574 posts, RR: 8
Reply 17, posted (13 years 10 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 5858 times:

Just to add to what I've already said, if anybody has any questions about Purdue, feel free to e-mail me, and I will get back to you as soon as possible.

User currently offlineAlmbluzman From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 182 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (13 years 10 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 5857 times:

does anyone know whether or not it is true that it takes about two years to actually fly at erau? that's the rumor that i've heard around the spartan school of aeronautics...

almbluzman


User currently offlineN863DA From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 48 posts, RR: 6
Reply 19, posted (13 years 10 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 5848 times:

No that is not true about taking two years to fly. I am in my first semester here and am already flying!

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User currently offlineWilcharl From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1166 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (13 years 10 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 5845 times:

Lik i stated earlier, I have no regreats about ERAU... I really dont think you could go wrong either way. ERAU, UND, or Purdue. The only thing I dont like is seeing people go to Flt Safety or Comair and in less time taht I am at ERAU they are getting whisked into flying... Alot of the m lack the academic foundation, as the 2 year associates degree is OPTIONAL @ Comair I have aloso heard tons of horrer stories about that place.




User currently offlineTbar220 From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7013 posts, RR: 26
Reply 21, posted (13 years 10 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 5837 times:

I'm also interested in going into a good four year plan, and have been interested in the two. The one thing that drew me more towards ERAU is their job placement statistics after college. I want to try the flight program, and I saw the list of internships and hirings you can get out of ERAU compared to Purdue, and that was one factor. Also, if I want a good Aerospace Enginnering, which was just rated number one by US News college ratings for undergraduate degree, I can do that at ERAU and have many possibilities for job's after those four years. Am I correct in this inromation? If anyone could tell me, that would be great. Thank you.

Tzvika



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User currently offlineMitchell Gant From Montserrat, joined Aug 2000, 253 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (13 years 10 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 5834 times:

Tzvika,

If you want a good engineering degree, go to Purdue. Purdue has one of the top undergraduate engineering programs in the world, and the aerospace engineering program is no exception (one AE grad from Purdue goes by the name Neil Armstrong). There is a statistic that keeps floating around that one of every twelve engineers in the USA is a Purdue grad. This just goes to show how many engineers are turned out by Purdue every year.


User currently offlinePurdue Arrow From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1574 posts, RR: 8
Reply 23, posted (13 years 10 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 5827 times:

Tbar - let me address your concerns...

I don't know ERAUs placement statistics, and I can't find them on the ERAU website, but how is this for Purdue - 100%. According to Purdue University data, our pilot program has had 100% placement since 1996... that's the last 5 school years. (http://www.tech.purdue.edu/placement/place98-99.html)It doesn't get a whole lot better than that. In reality, placement in this industry is so economy-dependent that the schools are probably roughly the same.

Which internships are available at ERAU that interest you? I don't have the current list of regional internships in front of me, but the list of majors who take Purdue interns includes the following:

Alaska
American
ATA
Continental
Delta
DHL
FedEx
Northwest
Ryan
TWA
UPS
United
USAirways

In addition, we have internships set up with such corporate departments as United Technologies (fleet includes G-IVs, G-Vs, and more), and such manufacturers as Raytheon (maker of the King Air, Beechjet, Baron, Bonanza, Premier I, and Hawker, this internship entails getting type rated in at least one Raytheon product and flying test and demo flights).

I don't know what company you were looking to go with, but chances are they have an internship program with Purdue.


User currently offlineFlywithken From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 223 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (13 years 10 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 5810 times:

I dont know about Purdue, But ERAU is about 16,000 in tuition per year. Flight costs for the first year average 7,000 or more. That gives you your private licence. Other years cost differently depending on what ratings you are working on. I think ERAU is somewhat overrated.

Univeristy of North Dakota is where i am going next fall...check them out.

KEN


25 TrnsWrld : I am currently a Riddle Student working on my third year. Obviously I cant say anything about Purdue since I have never been there, but I can speak fo
26 Post contains images Tbar220 : Here's another statistic which would be important. I would like to know what each school's (ERAU vs PUR) aircraft count is, compared to its student co
27 Futurepilot : Well listen, I attend ERAU here in Prescott. Maybe you haven't heard of this little town in Arizona, but hey its a great school. Obviously, I can only
28 Go Delta : Just go to MIT and get this argument over with.
29 Purdue Arrow : Purdue's fleet consists of 24 training airplanes, including: 14 Piper Warrior IIIs 4 Piper Arrows 2 Beechcraft Duchesses 2 Cessna 150s 1 Cessna 182 1
30 Wilcharl : I think Dr. Whats his name Ebbs yeah thats it would be pissed if he heard us saying ERAU was strictly aviation. Apparently they dont want that to be
31 Post contains images Tbar220 : Great information purdue arrow. Now does anyone have similar information on ERAU? Thanks! Tzvika
32 Wilcharl : I think (dont quote these #s) but Riddle has 90 172s at daytona all new a bunch of Piper Cadets being phased out a load full of mooneys and a mess of
33 Post contains images Pilot1113 : I can field any questions you folks have about the Aviation Administration program here. I'm not an expert, but I will see if I can track down some of
34 Pilot1113 : If ERAU or ERU, whatever you say they're calling it now, wants to reform their image, they'll have to do a lot more than drop a word from their title.
35 Louis : Hey, I'm just wondering if any of you go to the ERAU Prescott Campus in Arizona? A friend of mine went there and I know he hasn't graduated yet, but I
36 Purdue Arrow : Tbar - to give you another idea of the opportunities available with our fleet:student ratio, my private pilot student and I have flown about 26 hours
37 Wingman : Some people might consider this a trivial point, but all things being equal you might also take into account that Purdue has a great basketball team.
38 Post contains images Wilcharl : If that picture doesnt sell you on ERAU, then you arent easily impressed... I remember many of flts when your asked to keep the speed up cuzz you hav
39 Post contains images Tbar220 : Dear Purdue Arrow, When I send in an application, do I need to send in a FAA medical examination paper as well? If so, where can I do that? Thanks. Tz
40 Purdue Arrow : You do not need to send in proof of your medical. You are not required to have a medical cetificate until you solo, but Purdue reccommends that you ob
41 Purdue Arrow : I have some new information on the status of of Dornier 328/328JET simulator that I got in class. Apparently, the company that was assembling the simu
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