Does anyone know which gates they are testing this on? I was in DEN last weekend and did not see any sign of this double jetway.
It would be kind of fun boarding (or deboarding) from the rear of the aircraft. I guess this means that the flight attendant in the back can't hide in the galley anymore!
Spinkid From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1000 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (6 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 8287 times:
Quoting ORDZW (Thread starter): It would be kind of fun boarding (or deboarding) from the rear of the aircraft.
just fly jetBlue to one of it's warmer weather locations, they always deboard and sometimes board from the rear using stairs and you get to walk around the tarmac which is even more fun
One a serious note. How much money can they save with faster boarding by installing new jet bridges, I'm guessing they don't come cheap.
Hiflyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2118 posts, RR: 4 Reply 5, posted (6 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 8260 times:
The original press release on this months ago stated they would go in on B but TED uses A. This news article also says B....wonder if TED is moving back to the mothership on B????
ORDZW From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 198 posts, RR: 4 Reply 7, posted (6 years 8 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 8194 times:
Quoting Hiflyer (Reply 5): The original press release on this months ago stated they would go in on B but TED uses A. This news article also says B....wonder if TED is moving back to the mothership on B????
Yes, this was part of the UA-F9-airport deal. The airport is building a new regional jet UAX facility at the end of the B-Concourse. In exchange, UA has agreed to give up their 6 Ted gates on the A-Concourse to F9. All of the Ted operations will be moved to the B-Concourse over the course of the next several months.
Bnamaxx From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 8, posted (6 years 8 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 8109 times:
Quoting Spinkid (Reply 4): just fly jetBlue to one of it's warmer weather locations, they always deboard and sometimes board from the rear using stairs and you get to walk around the tarmac which is even more fun
I flew B6 into LGB last year. Deplaning was done from front and rear with airstairs. Very awesome, especially to see 5 320's parked on that ramp at once, dwarfing the terminal building. It was the first time I'd used airstairs since the early 90's on an AA 757 at JAC.
COERJ145 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1420 posts, RR: 1 Reply 9, posted (6 years 8 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 8009 times:
Quoting Spinkid (Reply 4): just fly jetBlue to one of it's warmer weather locations, they always deboard and sometimes board from the rear using stairs and you get to walk around the tarmac which is even more fun
In SJC at terminal C they have done it. I've flown HP and TZ flights from their where we boarded using both doors. Its really cool on the 757, cause of its size.
RampRat74 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1455 posts, RR: 2 Reply 10, posted (6 years 8 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 7990 times:
The first one is going to be on B15. Thats the last gate on the North-side. The other gates will be B17, B16, B18, B20 I believe.
Copaair737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 11, posted (6 years 8 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 7955 times:
Doesn't Jetblue use alot of the rear deplaning at LGB? I'd like to try that sometime. I deplaned off the middle of a DC-10 at OAK one time, but that was as close to the back as I've gotten.
Ikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21025 posts, RR: 60 Reply 12, posted (6 years 8 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 7943 times:
Quoting Spinkid (Reply 4): just fly jetBlue to one of it's warmer weather locations, they always deboard and sometimes board from the rear using stairs and you get to walk around the tarmac which is even more fun
WN at BUR does this. I boarded BUR-SJC and deplaned SJC-BUR via the rear stairs. Fun!
Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
Mcg From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 671 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (6 years 8 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 7923 times:
Yesterday there was a TED A320 parked at the last gate on the north side of the B concourse with the duel jet bridge attached. The duel jet bridge seems like a great way to speed boarding and off-loading, but I have to say it looked a "Rube Goldberg" contraption.
Copaair737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 15, posted (6 years 8 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 7917 times:
I deplaned out of the rear of a Air Wisconsin BAe-146 one time. That was pretty cool. I've never gone in the rear door of say, an A320 or a 737 though. Do planes ever get boarded on the other side of the fuselage??? I don't think I've ever seen that before.
Hiflyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2118 posts, RR: 4 Reply 17, posted (6 years 8 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 7851 times:
Thanks everyone for confirming use of B....I know UA dual door the Shuttle when they ran that on the west coast at more than afew stations...guess that is where they are getting this from.
MtnWest1979 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 2112 posts, RR: 1 Reply 18, posted (6 years 8 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 7767 times:
We'll see how this works out. If it is as good as previous US experiments ( WN in DAL, ALB airport) it won't last too long. At least until the first one crimps a wing.
UAPremierGuy From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 206 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (6 years 8 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 7533 times:
Mike Boyd has a good point on this...while the idea of increasing turn times by dual boarding and de-boarding is nice on paper, in reality, it probably will not work, what with planes put on hold waiting for incoming passengers off of delayed flights...and this faster boarding doesn't do anything to speed up baggage loading down below, often the source of many delays, or a catering truck a little too late causing further delays, etc. Just too many variables in the airline business from this to make a real, or even a minor, dent.
Bnamaxx From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 20, posted (6 years 8 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 7382 times:
Speaking of dents, a friend of mine who is a gate agent tells of a coworker fired for "improper driving of the airbridge" (I guess how you would term it) and causing damage to the aircraft. I assume this is possible? And would the over-wing airbridge require any more skill at getting the bridge to the door? Seems like it might open up room for more costly error.
Does anyone remember the days LONG ago when a/c parked parallel to the terminals and used two jet bridges? Not practical now of course.
CM767 From Panama, joined Dec 2004, 639 posts, RR: 1 Reply 21, posted (6 years 8 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 7306 times:
Quoting Bnamaxx (Reply 20): would the over-wing airbridge require any more skill at getting the bridge to the door?
From the article:
"The new bridges automatically connect to planes using sensors that detect the aircraft's position on the tarmac, eliminating the need for workers to connect them manually."
Positiverate From United States of America, joined May 2005, 1590 posts, RR: 9 Reply 22, posted (6 years 8 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 7270 times:
Quoting ORDZW (Thread starter): It would be kind of fun boarding (or deboarding) from the rear of the aircraft. I guess this means that the flight attendant in the back can't hide in the galley anymore!
The DL Shuttle more often then not deplanes through the rear air stairs on the MD-88's. Same was true with the 727's. When the 737' s were on the Shuttle DL rolled up stairs to the 2L door to deplane. Boarding, however, is always done through the jetway.
Amazonphil From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 561 posts, RR: 1 Reply 24, posted (6 years 8 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 7180 times:
Quoting Copaair737 (Reply 3): DIA is Denver International Airport (IATA Code: DEN). More often than not, I hear to it referred as DIA.
-Copa
In the Denver area it's also referred to as "Done In August" as it was supposed to have been done in August of 1994. But instead was somewhat completed and we opened it in Feb. of 1995.
Cheers,
amazonphil
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25 AlitaliaMD11: I guess you haven't travelled much through Europe!
26 Amazonphil: S. America, happens all the time in the outlying airports. On P5, AV, RG, EQ and others.
27 Flyboy14295: Tod, Isn't N742AS one of the Combi planes. I believe I was on that plane going through Alaska. For those that dont know, the 732 AS combi plane has ro
28 Ckfred: TWA used to board its 707s at ORD, back in the 60s. At MKC, 707s had 2 sets of stairs, while 727s had 1 set of stairs and the set of stairs contained
29 Boston92: I just flew in to DEN on a 777 and there were double jetways, the left side of the craft deplaned in first class, and the right side deplaned in the
30 Qantas744ER: Hey, i just flew from DEN to FRA on LH in F on the 744 on the upper deck and taxiing to RWY34L i had a great view of the new double jet way, but i onl
31 Amazonphil: You mean the people deplanned off the right side of the a/c at the galley? Or did the right side cross over to the left side at the galley then off t
32 Yellowstone: Just out of curiosity, have there ever been any incidents of the aircraft engines accidentally being started while the rear airstairs were still in pl
33 Tod: 732QC They are soon to be gone and replaced by the 734 being converted to combi. Tod
34 MarkATL: I used to use the rear tail stairs on PE at the old EWR Terminal and God knows how many times on LH 727s at BRE before they built the new terminal.
35 UALPHLCS: Well, Well, they finally got around to doing it. UA has been kicking this idea around for a number of years. I was part of the East Region Employee De
36 Ncelhr: Try flying VS to LHR. If you take a red eye, you might, if you're lucky, arrive a little later than scheduled, in which case there won't be any airbr
37 Zvezda: UA did that at SFO with their Shuttle operation. As of the move from Stapleton to DEN, when UA moved two jetbridges from Stapleton to their MX facili
38 UALPHLCS: Keep in mind the major point of this is NOT faster boarding. Zone boarding like UA is doing and WN has done for years is faster than conventional boa
39 Airbazar: To my experience this is done very often and everyday all over Europe and the Caribbean, rain, shine, or snow. Some airports have covered stairs but
40 YOW: That won't happen as the bridge 'bridges' itself automatically using sensors. These bridges are built here in Ottawa by DEW Engineering http://www.de
41 Amazonphil: Did this off the rear on an AA 757 at EGE(Eagle/Vail/BeaverCreek,CO)airport a few years ago. Probably my only USA rear of aircraft boarding and depla
42 B747FAN: Happens all the time at DEL and BOM domestic terminals (for that matter most domestic terminals in India). They take you by bus, or you walk from the
43 MtnWest1979: I hope that they don't have any mx or software problems often. Wouldn't be good to get halfway setup and have a problem. Also, it better be a quick o
44 Jsnww81: If these new bridges are anything like Southwest's dual loaders at DAL and AUS, they're designed more for 737/A320 sized birds... but boy, it would b
45 Rydawg82: Here's a photo of one of these bridges up to a Airbus 320: From http://www.dewbridge.com/gallery/otw_photos.html> -R
46 CRJ 900: Don't they have over wing bridges in AMS? Positive I've seen them there on Widebody aircraft.
47 UAL747: They have them in AMS as well as one or two gates at Dallas Love (DAL). I've actually used the one at DAL. People in the middle get a little freaked o
48 FutureFO: And fly KL into AMS, they also use the double jetways. Sean