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Conviasa To BOA And MAO, Short Term  
User currently offlineLuisde8cd From Pitcairn Islands, joined Aug 2004, 2571 posts, RR: 30
Posted (8 years 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2577 times:

Conviasa will be landing in the next months in Boa Vista and Manaos.
My guess is ATR-42 equipment from PMV.


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They say they will be "filling the gap" left by Brazilian carriers in those airports.

In the long term they expect to land in:
SDQ
AUA
PTY
LIM
EZE
Antigua & Barbuda (?????)

After flying to these destinations, they will start flying to the USA.

No news regaring Europe, I think the A342 will stay parked in ORY for a long time...

Lets see if all these plans actually comes true.

Saludos desde Monterrey,
Luis

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User currently offlineLanas From Argentina, joined Aug 2006, 978 posts, RR: 13
Reply 1, posted (8 years 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2530 times:

Good news! Good to see Conviasa expanding.
With what equipment are they planning to fly to EZE?

Regards,
Lanas.-



"Faithless is he that says farewell when the road darkens." J.R.R. Tolkien
User currently offlineJJJM From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 225 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2517 times:

To EZE?....with the ATR 42....

If they went all the way to BEY with a 737-200.....why can´t they go to EZE with the ATR.....

Regards

JJJM


User currently offlineAwysBSB From Brazil, joined Sep 2005, 561 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 2499 times:

Quoting Luisde8cd (Thread starter):
Conviasa To BOA And MAO, Short Term

BOA is the IATA code of Boma, Boa Vista`s is BVB.

Is V0 still interested in PU?
Does V0 have any plan of flying to MVD?


User currently offlineGhost77 From Mexico, joined Mar 2000, 5222 posts, RR: 51
Reply 4, posted (8 years 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2479 times:

Conviasa might probably get by the end of the year a 3rd B737-200 ex. Global Air from Mexico. Global Air is currently in the States searching for a B732s.

g77 APM



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User currently offlineLuisde8cd From Pitcairn Islands, joined Aug 2004, 2571 posts, RR: 30
Reply 5, posted (8 years 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2464 times:

Quoting Lanas (Reply 1):
With what equipment are they planning to fly to EZE?

B763 apparentely

Quoting JJJM (Reply 2):

If they went all the way to BEY with a 737-200.....why can´t they go to EZE with the ATR.....

Yeah, why not  Smile

Quoting AwysBSB (Reply 3):
BOA is the IATA code of Boma, Boa Vista`s is BVB.

Thanks for the correction

Quoting AwysBSB (Reply 3):
Is V0 still interested in PU?

No. Conviasa management was replaced and apparentely PU plans were dropped.

Quoting AwysBSB (Reply 3):
Does V0 have any plan of flying to MVD?

Not in the near future... expect EZE and GRU first.

Quoting Ghost77 (Reply 4):
Conviasa might probably get by the end of the year a 3rd B737-200 ex. Global Air from Mexico. Global Air is currently in the States searching for a B732s.

Ghost, are the current two 732s wet or dry leased?

Saludos desde Monterrey,
Luis


User currently offline797 From Venezuela, joined Aug 2005, 1894 posts, RR: 27
Reply 6, posted (8 years 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2462 times:

I guess these are good news for the airline, however if they're to fly to all those destinations (EZE, GRU, etc) they should get some serious aircraft and not send those worn 732s.

Quoting Luisde8cd (Reply 5):
B763 apparentely

Why don't they use the A342 parked at ORY? It makes no sense to me to add a 763 to the fleet when the A342 is parked and waiting to be used... I think that's a better target than MAD, which is currently pretty full and well attended.

I hope they handle things rightly.

Saludos



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User currently offlineLuisde8cd From Pitcairn Islands, joined Aug 2004, 2571 posts, RR: 30
Reply 7, posted (8 years 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2455 times:

Quoting 797 (Reply 6):
Why don't they use the A342 parked at ORY? It makes no sense to me to add a 763 to the fleet when the A342 is parked and waiting to be used... I think that's a better target than MAD, which is currently pretty full and well attended.

ETOPS.... that's why. With the A342 you can cross the pond without ETOPS limitations. The 763 is intended for intra-america flights which don't need ETOPS certification. EZE and GRU mainly. Apparently the 763 has already been acquired, it is in the desert waiting for V0 to call it for duty (ex-UA).

Saludos desde Monterrey,
Luis


User currently offline797 From Venezuela, joined Aug 2005, 1894 posts, RR: 27
Reply 8, posted (8 years 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2444 times:

Quoting Luisde8cd (Reply 7):
ETOPS.... that's why. With the A342 you can cross the pond without ETOPS limitations. The 763 is intended for intra-america flights which don't need ETOPS certification. EZE and GRU mainly. Apparently the 763 has already been acquired, it is in the desert waiting for V0 to call it for duty (ex-UA).

Huh, big limitation then!

What does it take to get ETOPS certification? Some special amount of training right? If that's so, then It'd take years for V0 to get ready...



Flying isn't dangerous. Crashing is what's dangerous!
User currently offlineCelticmanx From Netherlands, joined Mar 2001, 99 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2407 times:

Quoting Luisde8cd (Reply 5):
Ghost, are the current two 732s wet or dry leased?

Wet Leased

Manx


User currently offlineLanas From Argentina, joined Aug 2006, 978 posts, RR: 13
Reply 10, posted (8 years 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2398 times:

Quoting 797 (Reply 8):
What does it take to get ETOPS certification? Some special amount of training right? If that's so, then It'd take years for V0 to get ready...

For what I understand, ETOPS certification is given to an aircraft type, not to an airline.

Cheers!
Lanas.-



"Faithless is he that says farewell when the road darkens." J.R.R. Tolkien
User currently offlineAwysBSB From Brazil, joined Sep 2005, 561 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2340 times:

Quoting Luisde8cd (Reply 7):
The 763 is intended for intra-america flights which don't need ETOPS certification. EZE and GRU mainly

Could that service to/from EZE make a stop in VVI?
Has V0 ever considered starting a partnership with LB?


User currently offline797 From Venezuela, joined Aug 2005, 1894 posts, RR: 27
Reply 12, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2325 times:

Quoting Lanas (Reply 10):
For what I understand, ETOPS certification is given to an aircraft type, not to an airline.

Hmm, I might be confused then. Aircraft do get ETOPS certifications, but I thought crew should be prepared for this kind of procedures, am I right?



Flying isn't dangerous. Crashing is what's dangerous!
User currently offlineLanas From Argentina, joined Aug 2006, 978 posts, RR: 13
Reply 13, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2321 times:

Quoting 797 (Reply 12):
crew should be prepared for this kind of procedures, am I right?

I believe that if the crew is certified to fly an ETOPS aircraft, then they can surely handle an ETOPS procedure.

Cheers!
Lanas.-



"Faithless is he that says farewell when the road darkens." J.R.R. Tolkien
User currently offlineChiguire From Venezuela, joined Sep 2004, 2005 posts, RR: 16
Reply 14, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2303 times:

Quoting AwysBSB (Reply 11):
Has V0 ever considered starting a partnership with LB?

They did ! Together with Cubana:
http://www.descifrado.com/articulo.php?idart=18750&cat=Empresas


User currently offlineBrasuca From Brazil, joined Mar 2004, 717 posts, RR: 10
Reply 15, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2297 times:

Quoting Luisde8cd (Thread starter):
My guess is ATR-42 equipment from PMV.

Why from Margarita, far far way from Caracas, 400 Km?
Varig is resuming MAO-CCS next week and looks like GOL will launch this same route.
Good luck for all of them.



Varig, Varig, Varig
User currently offlineLamedianaranja From Venezuela, joined Nov 2004, 1246 posts, RR: 20
Reply 16, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2287 times:

Quoting Lanas (Reply 10):
For what I understand, ETOPS certification is given to an aircraft type, not to an airline.

Cheers!

Both count really. E.g. Boeing T7 ETOPS is given to all operators but it depends on their former experience how long the range is. It may vary somewhere between 180 to 240 minutes.



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User currently offline797 From Venezuela, joined Aug 2005, 1894 posts, RR: 27
Reply 17, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 2274 times:

Quoting Brasuca (Reply 15):
Varig is resuming MAO-CCS next week and looks like GOL will launch this same route.

Yeah, I saw this on the press some days ago. Gol I think its starting in October.

Do you guys know what aircraft will RG use?



Flying isn't dangerous. Crashing is what's dangerous!
User currently offlineBrasuca From Brazil, joined Mar 2004, 717 posts, RR: 10
Reply 18, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 2268 times:

Quoting 797 (Reply 17):
Do you guys know what aircraft will RG use?

up till now, RG has got only 3 MD11 and 7 733. They are going to fly GRU-MAO-CCS with 733 6x weekly



Varig, Varig, Varig
User currently offline797 From Venezuela, joined Aug 2005, 1894 posts, RR: 27
Reply 19, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2246 times:

Quoting Brasuca (Reply 18):
They are going to fly GRU-MAO-CCS with 733 6x weekly

Wow! That's quite a lot for an airline who's coming back to life!
Good to hear about it, though...

Now, how will this be handled when GOL starts the route?

Saludos



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User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11438 posts, RR: 58
Reply 20, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2212 times:
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Quoting Brasuca (Reply 18):
up till now, RG has got only 3 MD11 and 7 733. They are going to fly GRU-MAO-CCS with 733 6x weekly

Little correction, will be 3 M11 and 12 733 effective tomorrow with resumed flights to BSB, CWB and POA (more services)

Quoting Luisde8cd (Thread starter):

Luis, i would include on the list REC and GIG. Both due to oil reasons:

REC: the project between PDVSA and Petrobras for a new big oil refinery.
GIG: Oil market as CCS, also main center on south america for shipyards and petrochemical industry.

Quoting 797 (Reply 19):
Now, how will this be handled when GOL starts the route?

RG will face problems as they will fly CCS-MAO-GRU with 733 in a single class, just the same way as Gol with better aircraft (738) and lower costs. Also Gol is a bigger player at MAO than Varig nowadays, with flights to BEL, BVB, BSB and very soon GIG. Gol will be the king of the route very quickly!

Felipe



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