UsAirways16bwi From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1004 posts, RR: 3 Posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 5469 times:
It was found in the bag of a student at the airport. Its just now unfolding, ill tell more when more is found out. fox news says
update: It was a CO plane from argentina to houston. Bomb sniffing dogs got a hit when sniffing checked bags at houston. The student is being held somewhere, the plane went on to EWR, where it is now.
It was CO flt 52, a 767-200
One thing that made me laugh, in the article, there is a picture of a "Continental plane" supposely taken on FEB 24, 2006... but in fact is a picture of an AIRBUS from Iberia (the aircraft name is "Rosalia de Castro", an IB A343)... I tell you, the media sure is reliable! If they though an Airbus A340 would resemble a B767, then there is NO HOPE for the average person.... I guess that lets us know just how much people and the media knows about aircraft! (Never will forget how on the A380 first flight, the reporters in the US would say that the "Airbus 380 was built in response to Boeing's 787 Dreamliner".... that was the worst knowledge I had yet seen!")
'"It has not been tested, but it's believed to be a half-stick of dynamite," Dunlap said of the item in Fish's luggage.'
Sure, it might turn out to be something other than dynamite after testing. But it's hardly a case where somebody mistook "residue" for a half stick of dynamite. It's either dynamite or it isn't. This isn't about residue.
Of course, there's also this:
'The passenger said he had been exploring mines in Bolivia and purchased the dynamite as a souvenir, Mancuso said.'
So apparently even he admits that it's dynamite, and it's got nothing to do with his being a "mining student", whatever that is. (If I go back to college, can I major in mining?)
Sure sounds to me like he bought half a stick of dynamite and then moronically brought it on the plane with him like an idiot. If true, this is a highly dangerous situation.
Of course, it could still turn out to all be false, and it could be a half stick of butter for all we know. But your summary of events, at least, we can pretty much conclusively say is 100% wrong.
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Wjcandee From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5559 posts, RR: 22
Reply 6, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 4816 times:
I think the title is wrong. I think the stuff was found by ICE upon the student's return to the US at IAH, and the plane then continued on to EWR, minus Junior and his dynamite-stick "souvenir". Customs got suspicious of something, and called Rover over, whereupon he gave the bag a whiff and alerted on it. The initial report was just that there was some "residue", after which ICE admitted that there was a half-stick of TNT in the bag, along with some other "contraband", which Latin American media are reporting to be in the nature of...well...the rest of the stuff you'd need for a bomb. They seem to think at this point that he was just bringing it in on an airplane, not that he was going to use it on one. But it might be that he planned to use it somewhere else. Which is why he has been...er..."detained".
TWISTEDWHISPER From Sweden, joined Aug 2003, 715 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 4561 times:
Anybody else besides me that gets upset by this report?
Today I have to leave my fingerprint before boarding, I had to get a new, more secure passport in order to enter the US, and I WILL have my bag searched, in public, by the airport security personnel. But in Buenos Aires you can just walk on board a Continental aircraft with a stick of dynamite in your bag.
I bet you, I f**king bet you, that the next terror attempt will be in BUE, or in that general area.
Student is a mining student and it is perfectly logical that he would have residue on him. It's hard to get off, and it got on his duffle bag.
There were no explosives found.
What is your source?
If I paint a wooden stick red and write Dynamite on it, I will not be allowed to bring it on the plane. Hey, a guy said that his erection pump was a bomb, and he was detained. This guy can walk onboard a Continental flight, bound for US soil with a dynamite stick, and nobody reacts until the plane has arrived?
I have always felt the the hard restrictions imposed by the FAA are directed more to foreign carriers, rather than US based ones. I will add this little incident in my archive of "told-you-so"s, as proof that I am right.
My girlfriend can carry on a bottle of perfume on a 14 hour flight to LAX because "it's flammable liquid" and this guy can carry on a stick o' dynamite?
US carriers: Get your act together.
Longhornmaniac From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 3461 posts, RR: 44
Reply 17, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 4011 times:
Quoting Wjcandee (Reply 10): Whoops! I did an internet search, and got Ag and Mining. Is there a separate "Texas Agriculture and Mining University"? Thanks, in any event, for the correction.
Haha. It's kool, we all make mistakes.
The University of Texas-El Paso (UTEP) was founded in 1914 as the Texas State School of Mines and Metallurgy; perhaps that's what your thinking of? In any event, I have never heard of something along those lines, so perhaps your source didn't know what they were talking about. Being a UT fan, I've had it drilled into me that they are Agricultural and Mechanical.
I don´t know about that, because the airport security´s been tight, specially the last months. However, it´s an unacceptable security breach that will not be in favour of the airport´s reputation. What a pity.
That same day we had in EZE a telephone bomb threat on a Copa airlines flight that was to depart to PTY. The aircraft was checked thoroughly and nothing was found, so it departed some hours later.
"Faithless is he that says farewell when the road darkens." J.R.R. Tolkien
USADreamliner From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 3751 times:
In my opinion, nothing will happen to this guy. Reason? He is American.
Can you imagine a person from any other country? He would be called terrorist,put in jail and then deported, no matter if he is innocent.
Access-Air From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1940 posts, RR: 12
Reply 22, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 3724 times:
I get the feeling that these things are happening on purpose....I feel like they are being planted purposely by the security officials!! Yes, we hear all about the trouble these people get in but when its all done and over, do we really hear what kind of trouble they actually end up with?
If this is becoming so commonplace now, then dammit as a US citizen and a taxpayer, I want to see results and see these people being hauled to prison.....ON TV!!!!!!!!!
They sensationalize the incidents and make sure that they get in that FEAR FACTOR to scare everyone to death....so we start looking at each other like we are all a bunch of fruit loops waiting to go off......Well fine, lets see some of these so called "Fruit Loops" being hauled off to prison.....
As for that lady and her finger nail polish on ther US Airways flight...Yeah stupid on her part, but even more idiotic is the TSA screener that FAILED to find it in her carryon bag or purse!!!!!
I think the TSA people should have a little code that they must tag each bag that they inspect so if someone gets thru with something not allowed then we would know just what screener is responsible and due punishment would be to the screener in charge of screening that bag......And not just a slap on the wrist.....I want to see just as harsh a punishment as for the person being caught!! Especially if it appears that the particular screener makes the same error over and over..... I mean look at it this way, we are all being watched and inspected....but who is watching the wathcers and the inspectors??!!?!?!!?
How about that???? Does anyone think that making a bag screener put a personal TSA Screener ID number on your bag if they go thru it, is a great idea???? That way if they miss soemthing, YOU Are not the only person to be in trouble!!!
Ptharris From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 282 posts, RR: 4
Reply 24, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 3110 times:
Quoting Spacecadet (Reply 5): 'The passenger said he had been exploring mines in Bolivia and purchased the dynamite as a souvenir, Mancuso said.'
I went to Kansas and came back with 500 lbs of ammonia fertalizer as a souvenir.... and a Timex watch.... and a firing squib... but I swear it was all a souvenir!! My God the statements people make up. Why not say "Well, I'm as dumb as a bag of rocks and figured nobody would say much," or just come out and say it... "I was seeing what I could get away with for future reference." Idiots...
Quoting Seanp11 (Reply 20): Regardless, no high-explosives should ever be taken on a plane.
Umm.. goes without saying... well, for most. Maybe it's time to place placards in the cabin that say:
"IF YOU ARE A TERRORIST, PLEASE CHECK YOUR BOMB MATERIAL/DEVICES WITH THE FLIGHT ATTENDANT. THEY ARE NOT CONSIDERED CARRY ON LUGGAGE AS PER FAA GUIDELINES."
"FAA STRICTLY FORBIDS TAMPERING WITH THE SMOKE DETECTOR OR DETONATING EXPLOSIVE DEVICES ON THIS FLIGHT. DOING SO IS A FEDERAL OFFENSE AND NOT VERY NICE."
If at first you don't succeed, skydiving isn't for you.
: I would so love to make this part of the standard p.a.
: I agree, but with all due respect, I don't think you actually imagine what it is like in the third world.
: If I had an eraection pump I would not want to bring attention to myself. The last time I was buying condoms at the Rite-Aide store I found they had