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AF And Air Tahiti LAX-CDG  
User currently offlineTargowski From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 127 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 4217 times:

AF and air tahiti nui have J class specials (restricted) business tickets for $3k during late march/early april 2007. a few questions...

which one probably started the special first? i'm guessing ATN to try to undercut AF or make up for its single daily flight that leaves LAX in the morning (seems less convienent than an after work flight...they are business tickets). AF does the flight 2x or 3x depending on the day, not to mention the multitude of connections at CDG to europe, middle east and south asia.

why was it started?, LAX-CDG seems lucrative, like people would pay 5k for business easy, even out of pocket for liesure.

which would you take? i would guess AF would be the presumptive choice, since more flights, probably better product (seat, IFE--though ATN is no slouch) and better dedicated lounges.

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User currently offlineLegacyins From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2145 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 4197 times:

Quoting Targowski (Thread starter):
AF does the flight 2x or 3x depending on the day,

AF 70 departs LAX-PTT Daily. They only have one daily flight, not 2 or 3.

Quoting Targowski (Thread starter):
(seems less convienent than an after work flight...they are business tickets

Not everyone who sits in Business class is actually traveling on business. I travel business class all the time and never once was I traveling for business related purposes.



John@SFO
User currently offlineHB-IWC From Indonesia, joined Sep 2000, 4516 posts, RR: 72
Reply 2, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 4197 times:

The Air France Z-class fares have been around for quite a while now. There is an advanced purchase restriction of 50 days on these tickets and any date or flight changes are subject to a USD300 change fee. I don't think TN has anything to do with AF's pricing policy ex LAX, as similar fares are available from other North American gateways.

User currently offlineMarco From United Arab Emirates, joined Jul 2000, 4169 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 4114 times:

I've never paid a fee to change my Z class tickets on AF. I purchase them usually out of DXB - could that be the reason why?


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User currently offlinePlanemanofnz From New Zealand, joined Sep 2005, 1676 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 4047 times:

Quoting Legacyins (Reply 1):
PTT

You mean PPT, Papeete, right?


User currently offlineHB-IWC From Indonesia, joined Sep 2000, 4516 posts, RR: 72
Reply 5, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 4012 times:

Quoting Marco (Reply 3):
I've never paid a fee to change my Z class tickets on AF. I purchase them usually out of DXB - could that be the reason why?

Different markets have different fare rules. Z-class fares ex North America have a USD300 change fee, whereas Z-class fares in many Asian and Middle Eastern markets do not have such fees, and neither do they have the strict advance purchase rules.


User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7428 posts, RR: 57
Reply 6, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3986 times:

Quoting Legacyins (Reply 1):
AF 70 departs LAX-PTT Daily

 no 
AF070 is CDG-LAX-PTT and is operating 3 x Weekly, on Wed/fri/Sun

AF operates two ohter DAILY flights CDG-LAX : AF062 & AF072.


User currently offlineFLY777UAL From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4512 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 3972 times:

Do their LAX-PPT flights actually rake that much money in for them in the premium cabin? It appears to be quite a lot of Business Class seats to fill for a route with (seemingly) very little business-oriented traffic. Are there that many high-yield vacationers between the United States and Tahiti?

F L Y 7 7 7 U A L


User currently offlineHB-IWC From Indonesia, joined Sep 2000, 4516 posts, RR: 72
Reply 8, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 3949 times:

Quoting FLY777UAL (Reply 7):
Do their LAX-PPT flights actually rake that much money in for them in the premium cabin? It appears to be quite a lot of Business Class seats to fill for a route with (seemingly) very little business-oriented traffic.

The number of premium seats on the LAX-PPT route has been decreasing. Barely a year ago, Air France operated a B744 with 13 seats in L'Espace Premiere and 56 seats in L'Espace Affaires. Now that number is down to just 40 seats in C. For the northern winter timetable, the route will operate with an A343 with 36 C seats, albeit with a frequency increase to four times weekly.


User currently offlineGoldorak From France, joined Sep 2006, 1872 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3490 times:

Quoting FLY777UAL (Reply 7):
Do their LAX-PPT flights actually rake that much money in for them in the premium cabin? It appears to be quite a lot of Business Class seats to fill for a route with (seemingly) very little business-oriented traffic. Are there that many high-yield vacationers between the United States and Tahiti?

You have also to consider that the entire trip CDG-LAX-PPT lasts about 25hrs, inclusing the stop time in LAX. That's a good reason to consider to fly business class if you can afford it, or with a reward ticket


User currently offlineKoruman From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 3409 times:

Absolutely, yes. If you pay over $1000 per night for a bungalow on Bora Bora you do not fly Coach.

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