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Comair CRJ-100 Plane Has Crashed In LEX  
User currently offlineJAGflyer From Canada, joined Aug 2004, 3754 posts, RR: 4
Posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 64332 times:

CNN is reported a plane crash at LEX. I'm in my hotel in YUL so I won't be able to find a link. They are not sure of the carrier yet.

I am flying today so hopefully this crash won't affect mine. (YUL-YYZ)

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User currently offlineJAGflyer From Canada, joined Aug 2004, 3754 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 64318 times:

UPDATE: They are saying it is a COMAIR commuter flight on-route or from ATL.

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User currently offlineTwoLz2Rn From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 454 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 64318 times:

i just heard it is a DL (not mainline) flight...the news people said there were 50 people on board

User currently offline767-332ER From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 2030 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 64166 times:

CNN is reporting Comair flight 191 (which Im assuming would be DL3191) LEX-ATL. Reporter is saying multiple fatalities. CRJ-100

Twinjets...if one fails, work the other one twice as hard!!!
User currently offlinePAHS200 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 513 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 64166 times:

CNN just reported that it was Comair flight 191 and the aircraft was a CRJ 100

User currently offline767-332ER From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 2030 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 64166 times:

Its actually DL 5191.

Twinjets...if one fails, work the other one twice as hard!!!
User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 64102 times:

Local News . . .


User currently offlineGib From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 286 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 64102 times:

CNN now reporting 51 dead & that the aircraft is a CRJ-700.

User currently offlineERAUgrad02 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1227 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 64013 times:

God i was scared of what would be next since the russian plan crash. It seems the 3's is true.

Desmond MacRae in ILM
User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13856 posts, RR: 17
Reply 9, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 64013 times:

Confirming above posts. Crashed 1 mile west of Blue Grass Airport at Lexington, just took off from Runway 22. All 50 on board may be dead. Probalby a full flight. Crashed just before daylight, just before 7 am local time. Weather good, 6 miles visability, nothing out of ordinary, very little rain.
Sounds bad. Let us hope for the best.

User currently offlineYanqui67 From Puerto Rico, joined Jan 2005, 509 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 64013 times:

I pray for the families, RIP.

User currently offlineJamincan From Canada, joined Aug 2006, 792 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 63813 times:

CBC is saying that everyone on the plane died.  Sad

User currently offlineStarCityFlyr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 63813 times:

It looks like it would be DL Flight 5191 from LEX to ATL with a scheduled departure time of 6:00AM.

Hope things will turn out ok but it doesn't sound good.

User currently offline767-332ER From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 2030 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 63813 times:

Quoting Gib (Reply 7):
CNN now reporting 51 dead & that the aircraft is a CRJ-700.

Its a CRJ-100. DL schedule proves it.

Twinjets...if one fails, work the other one twice as hard!!!
User currently offlineKFLLCFII From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3433 posts, RR: 24
Reply 14, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 63712 times:

Quoting PAHS200 (Reply 4):
Comair flight 191

Jesus, yet another flight 191 to go down...  Sad

"About the only way to look at it, just a pity you are not POTUS KFLLCFII, seems as if we would all be better off."
User currently offlineLucky42 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 63712 times:

is it just me or is the flight number (191) a curse??? AA 191 DC-10 in ORD in 1979 and Delta 191 in DFW in 1985. Now this?

User currently offlineHandcuffs From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 97 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 63601 times:

Foxnews saying thunderstorms and lightning strikes in the area at the time. God Bless the people on board.

Freedom isn't free...peace isn't pretty!!!
User currently offlineTjwgrr From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2626 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 63601 times:

Airline Comair Inc.
Flight Number 191
Departure City (Airport) Lexington, KY (LEX)
Departure Time 08/27/2006 06:14 AM
Arrival City (Airport) Atlanta, GA (ATL)
Arrival Time 08/27/2006 07:25 AM
Remaining Flight Time 01:11 (scheduled)
Aircraft Type Bombardier CRJ 100
Current Altitude 0 feet
Current Groundspeed 0 mph
Flight Status Scheduled

Direct KNOBS, maintain 2700' until established on the localizer, cleared ILS runway 26 left approach.
User currently offlinePanamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5286 posts, RR: 24
Reply 18, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 63601 times:
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Quoting Lucky42 (Reply 15):
is it just me or is the flight number (191) a curse??? AA 191 DC-10 in ORD in 1979 and Delta 191 in DFW in 1985. Now this?

switch them around and you get 911.

Thoughts and prayers with all those whose loved ones were on board.

User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 63393 times:


User currently offlineGib From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 286 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 63393 times:

Quoting 767-332ER (Reply 13):
Its a CRJ-100. DL schedule proves it.

10-4 man. Surprised they haven't said it was a 707...muchless a -700.

User currently offlineLesMainwaring From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 545 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 63079 times:

Gib From United States, joined Mar 2001, 243 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted Sun Aug 27 2006 14:33:26 UTC+2 and read 0 times:

Quoting 767-332ER (Reply 13):
Its a CRJ-100. DL schedule proves it.

10-4 man. Surprised they haven't said it was a 707...muchless a -700.

- - - -

I'm not sure if I am wondering at this point whether such small details in the face of a tragedy like this really matters, or whether people that blame the media for everything should go to journalism school and see if they can do a better job themselves.

Better idea, if the media bothers someone so much with all of their left-wing, never-get-it-right reporting, maybe some folks should cancel all their magazine subscriptions, shred the newspapers, smash the radio in a million pieces and turn their television set into a decorative planter, then become pyschic so they can read the minds of others and get the facts right themselves

- - -

RIP to everyone on this CRJ-whatever --- it is their loss and the loss to their loved ones that really matter right now

[Edited 2006-08-27 14:43:30]

[Edited 2006-08-27 14:44:52]

I want something under my wheels thats plenty long and mighty dry --- Vern Demarest
User currently offlineCessna157 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 43 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 62785 times:

Well, according to NBC, the flight took off runway 22L and was carrying over 80 pax...and this was by an "aviation expert."

Yes, it's sad when I see my coworkers perish. But honestly, careless reporting is just not necessary, especially by a so called expert.

User currently offlineMRURUN From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 155 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 62785 times:

You must be so proud of your repsonse, Les..

When some Stations show an A310 when they are referring to a B767, it is always nice to get a correction, JUST IN CASE, the CRJ-700 that they have referred to, turns out to be a B777 or A340.

Thanks for all others who are keeping the rest of us FACTUALLY updated.
Friends, families and victims are in all our thoughts, I'm sure.

User currently offlineSunking737 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2112 posts, RR: 7
Reply 24, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 62644 times:

This is very sad news for all. For anyone who works for an airline or has family with an airline its too close to home.

My prayers to all at Comair.

25 Gib : ---- Cheers MRURUN. Hope you have a nice rest of your Sunday over there.
26 LongbowPilot : Panamair are you TRYING to start some sort of conspiracy theory here? condolences.
27 Tvnewsguy08 : WLEX (NBC in LEX) is reporting that the pilot may have taken off from Runway 26 (much shorter, maybe 3500 feet). Still unconfirmed, but there is early
28 UnitedTristar : they say at least one survivor
29 LTBEWR : At least one person apparently survived the crash and taken to a nearby hospital. We will have to wait for further possible survivors, although it doe
30 Post contains links and images ANCFlyer : Hmmm, might be feasible, given the layout of the airport. We've had planes use taxiways for departures in
31 JetBlueGuy2006 : The airport Director says it was a CRJ-200 and as people have already said there is at least one survivor
32 LesMainwaring : MRURUN From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 59 posts, RR: 0 Reply 23, posted Sun Aug 27 2006 14:48:57 UTC+2 and read 631 times: You must be so proud
33 Gib : The LEX Bluegrass Airport Manager is now reporting there was a post crash fire, departure was at 0600 and the a/c was a CRJ-200. Source = Live press c
34 SKYYBLUE : God bless the familes of those perished.
35 EXAAUADL : I was just thinking last night how it has been so long since there has been an aviation accident with a large nubmer of fatalities in the US. I could
36 Challiday : blimey people like looking too deep into things. (you also get 119)
37 Jbguller : Surely that can't have been an issue in this accident though, unless the FMC did something? But lets leave the cause to the FAA. It may just be facts
38 Miller22 : deleted God bless all![Edited 2006-08-27 15:11:13]
39 Vegasflyboy : Thoughts and prayers to those involved and their families.
40 RDUDDJI : There was the AA A300 near JFK not long after 9/11 (I think it was like AA587). Then there was the thousands of posts here about whether it was pilot
41 Aaron747 : This was a departure accident - so we're not really talking overshoot in any capacity.
42 Cessna157 : Uhh....pretty sure the FMC doesn't have anything to do with which runway the Capt points the nose down. That's just stupid speculation there, come on
43 MRURUN : Nice to see you edited your response Les, to reflect the bigger picture. Again, thanks to all who are updating those of us who cannot recieve CNN etc
44 Post contains links ANCFlyer : Hmmm, more news on the Runways at LEX . . . Apparently, the main runway, 22, was just reopened after paving. Did perhaps the Comair pilot not know th
45 Panamair : Chill...wasn't trying to start a conspiracy theory Actually, they were correct in that case as LX does nickname their Avros "Jumbolino"...the FAs eve
46 Falcon84 : MSNBC just reported at least one survivor on their newscast at about 0910 Eastern time.
47 Cessna157 : Of course they knew this. They just flew in there last night. I'm pretty sure they would remember landing the night before. LEX was closed all last w
48 JFKTOWERFAN : AA 587 US Airways Express B1900 @ CLT AA Connection 5966 Chalks Corey
49 Gib : ...but wait?? Leslie edited his post?? Blasphemy I say. I had to slap myself with a ruler already once today. MRU, we'll keep you updated man.
50 Gh123 : FAA spokeswoman said that they have reports of 50 dead. Regarding the possibility of taking off on the wrong runway - when you taxi from the apron to
51 Jonno : Just checked the Delta website for flight DL 5191 LEX - ATL. "No information is available about this flight." The other flights travelling this route
52 Aerowrench : Have a little heart. Your flight being affected is a very inaffectual thing to say and is a dishonor to those who lost their lives. RIP
53 Post contains images Gib : I had four clients on that flight.
54 Handcuffs : Live news conference about the crash on MSNBC at 10 ET.
55 Post contains links Muddydwagon : AP is also reporting this 1 survivor in critical condition at The University of Kentucky hospital. Link: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060827/ap_on_re
56 Jbguller : I'm a trainee C-152 pilot who has not dealt with an FMC before at any stage, so I wasn't sure if taking off from the wrong runway and pointing the pl
57 Gh123 : One man is in a critical condition - he has been taken to University of Kentucky hospital.
58 Post contains images RyanairCRL : to MRURUN and Les, when people die tragically, all you can do is fight over news report accuracy...go back to playground kids
59 Deputydawghere : God bless the victims and their families.
60 727LOVER : USX 1900 (no-pax) at Hyannis
61 Freedom747 : May God Bless their souls. Tune in at 10am ET, for the Comair News Conference. Then finally, we can get a little bit more of an understanding on accur
62 Jetpixx : MSNBC was reporting the survivor might have been a pilot/co-pilot...interesting. Wish there were more...
63 Srbmod : They are now reporting that the a/c may have taken off from the wrong runway, and that the survivor may be the one of the pilots.
64 MRURUN : I was trying to stand up for those who had taken the time to inform me (subjective) of what was happening and were being criticised. So apologies to
65 MRURUN : Prayers for him and his continued survival.
66 Gib : --------------------- Jbguller -- Man, think nothing of it. ..and you have NOT offended me and have NOT offended the other 99.999975% that are here.
67 Dc10s4ever : The question that I have, is they are reporting that the incorrect runway that he reportedly took off from is not lighted? How can you miss that? Plus
68 Gh123 : If you go to google earth and look up runway 26, the plane is now right at the end of 26.
69 Gh123 : its a very good point but I'm sure you'll understand that some mistakes never make sense.
70 LeanOfPeak : Well, if you're going to count no-pax, there was also the Pinnacle CRJ with the double-flameout in Missouri.
71 Dc10s4ever : I dont think GOOGLE earth is live time.
72 NIKV69 : Why does 911 have to be read into everything? No but it was a foolish statement. R.I.P. and hope the survivor pulls through.
73 Go3Team : Other than speculation, and being unable to interview the pilots involved (be they dead or hurt in a certain way) is there any way to really tell if t
74 MarkHKG : Prayers to the families and loved ones of the pax, flight and cabin crew.
75 Post contains links Freedom747 : Corporate Communications: 859.767.1500 08/27/2006 Comair Flight 5191 Advisory #1 Comair Flight 5191 Advisory #1 Issued 8-27-06, 8:45 a.m. Comair Fligh
76 Potomac : i would think that given the time of day and the size of the airport, you might have the tower handling ground control functions as well.
77 Lapper : Probably only when the CVR is released will we know for definite, unless a statement is made before that time. Prayers for all involved. RIP
78 Jbguller : Ta Gib - and just so you know, it's not going well at all - money problems and a slight feeling that, due to what's going on in the world, maybe some
79 SoonerLT : This is hogwash. There are no such things as curses and to attribute a crash to something as arbitrary as a flight number is ridiculous. There have a
80 LTBEWR : If the flight took off from runway 26 instead of 22, your are talking about a runway about 3500 ft vs. 7000 ft. R 26 would be far short of an ideal ta
81 Gh123 : Sure but it will give you an idea of the position of the plane now.
82 Jbguller : Just to update - CNN is reporting that the last ATC communication was on clearing the aircraft to takeoff - no Mayday/Pan Pan calls were made.
83 Docchaos : First off, RIP to all those on board. My prayers are with everyone involved or associated with those on board... Second, does anyone know what the Reg
84 JetBlueNYFL : RIP to all those who lost their lives in this tragedy and condolences to the family members.
85 SAS333 : Maybe it's me, but why is even Delta nothing saying on their own homepage. Flight 5191 even doesn't exist for them anymore.
86 JohnJ : Here's the entry for LEX's Runway 8/26 from AirNav.com: Dimensions: 3500 x 75 ft. / 1067 x 23 m Surface: asphalt/concrete, in poor condition CONC IS S
87 Cessna157 : Warning: Pure speculation to follow! One of the news stations had a helicopter shooting some video of the crash scene. It's directly off the end of Rw
88 Sevenair : Medium Intensity Runway Lighting, or something to that affect.
89 Britannia191A : Well If I was you I dont think that would be my concern, my concern is with the families affected by people who have died as a result of the crash. G
90 EMBQA : Can we just stay away from becoming instant NTSB Investigators and TV News 'Aviation Experts'..!!
91 Dtwclipper : Man, I'm in LEX every week these days...it is like my second home airport right now. It's strange, I know the area exactly they are reporting on. I kn
92 Gh123 : I can't see how the plane can be where it is now unless it took off from 26. It is just about parralel to the point of rotation on 22 and it is STILL
93 NASCARAirforce : I thought I had read that the plane crashed a mile from the end of the runway. When I read Comair at first, for some reason I thought that the crash w
94 Tg 747-300 : Medium Intensity Runway Lights tg 747-300
95 Flybywire777 : MSNBC reporting and showing video that crash site is at the end of runway 26 Google map the end of rw 26 and you can see two barns that seems to match
96 Cessna157 : I do believe that's an oxymoron. On the other hand, I think most of us here are interested as to why the plane may have gone down. Of course we are a
97 Gh123 : Its a few hundred yards from the end of 26.
98 DeltaGuy767 : Let's hope that the pilot didn't take off from the wrong runway. A former NTSB investigator on MSNBC now is posing a wind shear/microburst the thing w
99 A3xx900 : CNN just reportet that there was a fire on board. But told viewers to wait for Comair press conference for more info on that.
100 Aussieindc : Sadly it would appear to be the case. MSNBC just panned from Runway 22 (new paving) over to Runway 26 and showed the crash site at the end of RWY26, v
101 Gh123 : Fire after impact
102 MCOflyer : RIP to those people who died. I hope that survivor pulls through, as he/she will be used for questioning by the FAA. Is that survivor the pilot, or a
103 Jbguller : Has anyone got, or can anyone make a picture showing the approximate place of the accident? I'm looking at KLEX at the moment and am having trouble pi
104 RoseFlyer : Jeff Clay was pilot and has been a pilot with Comair for 7 years on a 50 seat CRJ. The first officer has been a pilot for Comair for 4 years. The crew
105 BatonOps : I'm sure the airlines remove such information immediately after a crash.
106 Gh123 : Just saw the scene on tv - I would put my house on the fact that they attempted to take off from 26. I don't see how they could get to where they are
107 Alitalia744 : RIP to the crew and passengers. Sad day for aviation anytime there is a loss of life. My hearts go out to the families/friends of the victim and the e
108 Post contains links Cessna157 : Delta's homepage, http://www.delta.com/home/index.jsp does have a brief statement concerning the accident of this flight.
109 DTW757 : The aircraft was purchaced new from Bombardier in January 2001
110 Gh123 : it was comair's plane
111 Toneale : Agreed, looking at the video, it appears they took off from the wrong RW. Reports the RW was closed are incorrect. It had just been resurfaced and was
112 Dc10s4ever : From the pictures they are showing on TV, where the airplane actually went down, it appears he must have gotten airborne. I know one of the speculatio
113 ANCFlyer : Still operating on behalf of DL, and the pax bought the tix from DL, and there's this big print on the side of the plane that says DL . . . The least
114 DSMflyer : He said they aren't releasing the tail information, but going by that it looks like it was N431CA. According to Airfleets, that was the only plane de
115 DL021 : Prayers for the souls on that flight and their families left behind. Best wishes to the survivor.
116 Alitalia744 : Not sure what any of you are talking about. When you log onto DL.com for the first time today, the usuall homepage is replaced with information re: t
117 Cactus739 : on Delta.com there is an "Advisory: Infofmation about Comair flight 5191" link. Maybe the victims rest in peace....
118 RoseFlyer : Yes they won't admit it, but it most likely was N431CA.
119 Gib : Outstanding heartfelt and professional job by Don Bornhorst during this press conference.
120 Usnseallt82 : Damn. Just caught wind of this. God be with the families.
121 JohnJ : It's not hard to picture how such a mistake could be made. Even though 22 and 26 are obviously not parallel runways, the ends of both runways are ver
122 Post contains links M180up : Well when there's an accident employees are told any information can be released until there is an official announcement with the list of confirmed p
123 Gh123 : picture of the plane
124 Cit8sionX : At least the media hounds have not mentioned terrorism. For a while it seemed that whenever there was an accident everyone assumed terrorism. Yes, thi
125 Post contains links and images Tvnewsguy08 : Here's a pic of N431CA View Large View MediumPhoto © Paul Robbins
126 Post contains links Flybywire777 : MSNBC has a chopper video (WAVE=TV) feed clearly showing crash site at the end of RW 26 http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Lexing...515&spn=0.008061,0.0216
127 Mortyman : The plane is apparently pretty much intact, but cought fire a while after it crashed............
128 Gh123 : Yes, I fly from KLEX very often and it would be a VERY EASY error to make. My guess is they took off on 26 and stalled. But thats speculation.
129 BA787 : Fox are reporting that the a/c is virtually brand new and had been in maintenance last night. They're also saying there was an accident as the plane l
130 Tvnewsguy08 : Actually, MSNBC quotes Homeland Security officials as saying that the FBI is on the scene, but there is NO indication at all that terrorism is involv
131 DTW757 : Either way I wouldn't think that taking off from either runway would have made any huge difference. I should add that runway length would make a diff
132 SLCUT2777 : This is all VERY incredibly sad, just awaking and hearing about it. Not a good way to start a Sunday: It think the key here besides prevention of a cr
133 M180up :
134 DSMflyer : Except that the shorter one is only 3400 feet and wasn't lighted. Don't CRJs need more than that to take off?
135 Spacecadet : One of the officials was quoted on CNN as saying the weather was "clear". Wind shear wouldn't seem very likely in the absence of other bad weather. T
136 Alitalia744 : If the a/c stalled then it would make a difference given you're working with 3500ft vs 7500ft no??
137 DTW757 : Yep sorry I was only thinking about the winds and didn't look up the runway lengths
138 CaptainT38 : This was my guess as well. May god be with the passengers and families as well. Sad way to begin a Sunday.
139 RobertS975 : It is certainly possible that they mistakenly attempted to take off from a 3500 foot runway. But the visual clues would have been all wrong... only 7
140 Aeronut : I recall an accident in China with a CRJ-200 several years back on takeoff as well. Was the cause of that crash determined? It wasn't investigated by
141 Post contains links Nelsonde : From the Bombardier website, FAR TO field length at MTOW is 5800ft at SL. 46 pax and 3 crew must have been close to MTOW. 5800>3500 if RWY26 used. htt
142 Aogdesk : On the phone with a CRJ crewmember now, says its very easy to use wrong RWY in LEX
143 Dash8tech : Sad, very sad. Comair are a decent bunch of folks, prayers are with them and the passengers/families involved.
144 Qantas744ER : In a very raw estimation, a CRJ200 would need round 5000-5500ft for that flight. Cheers Leo
145 N723GW : Just a question - why would there be a blackhawk at the scene? Is there any place that would be stationed at near the scene?
146 JBird : "Either way I wouldn't think that taking off from either runway would have made any huge difference." Actually, it would have made a huge difference.
147 Dash8tech : Many have suspected the shorter runway, sounds logical enough in early speculation, CRJ 100 and 200 have no leading edge slats thus making the wing ve
148 Cessna157 : Comair pretty much always uses flaps 20 for departure. Yes, pilots are humans. Humans make mistakes. Pilots are trained to no make mistakes. Humans g
149 CURLYHEADBOY : If the power setting was entered for the other runway I guess 3400 feet wouldn't be enough at all, the position of the wreck makes it appear just as
150 JBird : "It is certainly possible that they mistakenly attempted to take off from a 3500 foot runway. But the visual clues would have been all wrong... only 7
151 Flybywire777 : The media is just starting to pick up on the runway. Still not asking the correct questions. Stuck on micro-bursts and engines. We know some of you sm
152 GAIsweetGAI : Something no one mentioned- According to the Yahoo news on this crash (link somewhere above), the flight recorders have been found. RIP. EDIT: forgot
153 Cactus739 : Jump to conclusions often?
154 Post contains links 146CREW : As RoseFlyer said in a previous post: www.airdisaster.com is saying the aircraft was N431CA CRJ-100ER MSN:7472 http://www.airdisaster.com/cgi-bin/v...
155 JBird : "Yes, pilots are humans. Humans make mistakes. Pilots are trained to no make mistakes. Humans get tired. Work gets sloppy when you're tired. we all kn
156 Usdcaguy : If this ends up being pilot error, I believe the airlines should look at how much rest time they are giving flight crews. It was an early morning flig
157 Slider : God bless the souls on board. Anyone have a crew list yet? Taxiway Alpha is the primary departure twy used and it continues past Rwy 26 to rwy 22. Sam
158 EMBQA : I just got off the phone (unrelated issues) with a long time friend and CRJ Captain. He said one of two things.... engine failure a take off or micro-
159 Post contains links Slider : Possible....albeit remote. http://www.naco.faa.gov/content/naco...nline/airportdiagrams//00697AD.pdf Here's the airport diagram for LEX.
160 BOE773 : I was hoping for another accident free year here on this continent. My thoughts and prayers are with the grieving families at this time. God be with t
161 Slider : MSNBC is clueless....they're talking about overrun.... And obsessing about the runway repairs and closure.
162 NASCARAirforce : That answers one question - I was going to ask if this was the first crash involving a CRJ (other than the Canadair test plane that crashed)? Fort Ca
163 S5FA170 : MSNBC says survivor is First Officer, with Comair since 2002. Rest everyone's souls. This hits way too close to home for me. -Tony
164 Cit8sionX : Man! It's funny how so many self proclaimed "experts" news agencies can dig up when something like this happens. Even more funny when the journalists
165 Planemaker : There are several incidents where pilots have landed on a taxiway at SEA, and worse, at the wrong airport. Also, don't forget that the flight departu
166 CPDC10-30 : Given that the flight was just over one hour, the flight was probably not all that close to MTOW unless it was tankering fuel.
167 Gh123 : I was just up near the airport. 2 Sikorsky Black Hawks landed about 15 minutes ago.
168 Aeronut : Accidents that I know of: 1. Aborted landing in New Brunswick several years ago (no fatalities) 2. Pinnacle flight crash. (2 crew I recall) 3. Crash
169 Litz : This is the thing that gets me about the "wrong runway" speculation ... can a CR1 even get moderately airborne, in 3400 feet, enough to "skip" a 1/2
170 Stirling : I am far from being an expert, but I think the proximity of 26 to 22, and the relative inexperience up on the deck makes this theory highly plausible
171 Redcordes : Without a doubt, Curlyheadboy. An 18 hour day followed by an early go after a late night (not necessarily on this flight) is a prescription for fatig
172 PeachAir : Actually, MSNBC isn't speculating too much. The long runway (and the airport) was closed last weekend for resurfacing with a brand new asphalt surfac
173 Mir : No way they could have not known it - ATC would have told them to taxi to it. Runway lighting at medium intensity - that it was out of service means
174 CO7e7 : The President of Comair, reveled the names of the crew: Captain : Jeff Clay - has been with the airline since 1999. F/O: First name is Jim (i don't r
175 Litz : For a CRJ-100, what would be the point of rotation, in its takeoff roll? I've seen above that the length of the runway used for takeoff at MTOW is ab
176 Gh123 : Local news says that information from the crash scene is suggesting that they took off from the wrong runway
177 71Zulu : Jeff Clay, Captain since 2004, with Comair since 1999 ??? Pulhanke, First Officer since 2002 Kelly Hire (male), Flight Attendant since 2004 Just hear
178 ROCandTPA : MSNBC says the first oficer is currently in surgery.
179 AvConsultant : I'm afraid you're correct. When I checked the delta.com around 9 am EDT, the only advisoryw as for luggage. Glad to see it's up. I'm sure this topic
180 EMBQA : The aircraft involved was a CRJ-200. Only the first few CRJ's built were 100's. With this a/c being delivered in 2001 it was most defenetly a -200
181 Post contains images Drerx7 : Hope this guys flight was on time
182 OPNLguy : Personally, and at the risk of repeating myself, I think about the only thing that the media can accurately report on at this early stage of the game
183 Post contains images Gh123 : phone camera photo of blackhawk arriving on scene
184 Kevin82277 : The Captain had been with the company for 7 years, and the F/O for 4 years. When are you considered an experienced pilot. I would think they had plen
185 KcrwFlyer : I completely agree with all that says they used 26. Its very, very clear that they attempted to depart on the shorter runway. I can only wonder how th
186 Post contains links Adipasqu : FYI, The airport diagram for LEX clearly states "Runway 8-26 unusable for landing or taxiing of aircraft over 12000 lbs gross weight". I assume from t
187 71Zulu : Correction on the Crew Just saw on MSNBC Capt Jeffrey Clay F/O James Polehinke (in surgery) F/A Kelly Heyer Edited for spelling[Edited 2006-08-27 18:1
188 F9Animal : I understand there was an accident at the end of the runway before liftoff. Perhaps they hit some lights or something at the end of the runway? Flaps
189 AvConsultant : The majority of OH fleet are-100's. This particular airframe I do not know then again I guess it were built in 2001 it would be a -200. OH was the N.
190 Post contains images Litz : It's also possible this flight may contain family members, taking them to LEX ... the doomed flight did have ATL as its destination. While I'm sure q
191 Gh123 : Survivor was First-Officer
192 Photopilot : One other thing.... It was also reported this morning on CNN that a deadhead pilot was riding the jumpseat in the cockpit. Were they "chatting" and th
193 DTW757 : Fox News reporting airplane is mostly intact and a spokesperson is now saying he believes it was a very hot fire and that most deaths will be fire rel
194 Mhodgson : I doubt it, don't most airlines operate a 'sterile cockpit' below around 10,000'? Surely a deadheading pilot would know better.
195 Post contains links 146CREW : On 6/22/2003 A BritAir CRJ crashed on landing in Brest France. Killed 1 of 24 pax. http://www.airdisaster.com/cgi-bin/v...GRJS&airline=Brit+Air+(Air+
196 Kevin82277 : Probably not the flaps. If the flaps were not set for takeoff, there would be a very loud alarm once power levers were advanced for takeoff. Hard to
197 Atnight : Here is a quote from MSNBC So if that is true, and from what it has being said, the fuselage being pretty much intact, what exactly would be the scena
198 Srbmod : Man these reporters are idiots! One of them actually asked if Homeland Security should be involved in the investigation and another asked why the FBI
199 DTW757 : Fox News also reporting that the wreckage is located at the end of RWY 8/26
200 Gordonroxburgh : Aerial pics on CNN Really there is no doubt after seeing these the a/c took of on shorter (wrong) general aviation runway, got off the ground but stal
201 F9Animal : Any pics of the crash yet on the net? All of the news stations I am watching are showing a pic of a CRJ-700 near a hangar! No footage of the crash sit
202 Post contains images Aussieindc : From the visual I saw from the news choppers, this didn't seem to be the case. There were no tire marks etc at the end of the runway through the undu
203 Usair320 : Very sad. My prayers go to all the familys. looks like the 3 streak is true.
204 EMBQA : I strongly doubt that. A deadhead pilot would not be permitted in the cockpit if an open seat was out back....this is an FAR. Reports say the flight
205 TinPusher007 : CNN is now reporting that the crew may have taken off on the wrong runway. They're saying there is some evidence that they took off on rwy 26 (3500')
206 Goomba : Rwy 8/26 is a daytime use runway for general aviation only. From what I am seeing on CNN, (video shots) - it really seems like this aircraft crashed v
207 Post contains links and images Photopilot : From TV reports and VISUAL information from the overhead TV shots, here approximately is where the aircraft went down. Draw you own conclusions.
208 Post contains images Piercey : Fox News is reporting that the F/o is the survivor... edit: confimed, Jim Paulhinki (sp?), F/O for Comair since 2000 only survivor. Search and Rescue
209 71Zulu : MSNBC TV: Live news conference going on now and Officials confirm that the rescue operations are over and there are no further survivors. They went in
210 Post contains images Gh123 : I took this out of the back of a plane last year. You can see the two runways - obviously 26 on the right and 22 behind the tail.
211 Onetogo : Thats a pretty embarassing thing to admit. Professional flight crews (ATP rated) with thousands of hours flying jets should never find it "easy" to u
212 Sevenair : Where are the TV Shots? I've not seen them anywhere.
213 Jalto27R : They confirmed at the press conference that the aircraft crashed about a mile from the end of Runway 8, which would make it seem rather plausible that
214 Apodino : Easy, there is space on the back of the boarding pass for passengers to fill out emergency contact info for just such an occasion. Also, Delta could
215 F9Animal : And they JUST missed hitting the barns and buildings. I wonder if anyone was home there? This could have been worse in terms of loss of life.
216 Multimark : RIP those who perished onboard. Note to news anchors: the manufacturer is not pronounced Bom-badeer, it's Bom-bar-dee-ay.
217 Skyhawk : This really isn't a time to be picking on each other. Of course we all have our own opinions, but do we need to constantly take a stab at each other?
218 Gordonroxburgh : Thanks Photopilot Really bit of a no Brainer. Sorry crew you should have done better. If its true that the FO is the survivor they he will have big pr
219 Post contains images Dogfighter2111 : This is very sad news, August is a dark month for aviation. Although I fail to see how this is the third searious crash. R.I.P. To all who perished Th
220 71Zulu : CNN now reporting they have "learned" that the plane has departed from the wrong runway. Wonder how they can confirm this, tower tapes already?
221 Doug_Or : While the runway is only 75 feet wide, the pavmeent is approximately 150 feet wide.
222 APFPilot1985 : Man I wish you worked for the NTSB if we could have all accident reports this quick it would be great. While it is ok to speculate it really is too s
223 Standby87 : It seems you're the only here who's flown as a pilot out of LEX, so I suspect your opinion is most accurate.
224 Ouboy79 : Is it just me, or is the use of "RIP" a little insensitive to a situation like this? Just a thought that something that is mostly used on Halloween de
225 B797 : God bless those who perished. It will be a very hard time for the families of those who perished.
226 CcrlR : Looking at the picture it seems that the runway is too short for this CRJ to take off even for any regional jet to take off(100, 200, or 700 or 900).
227 TVNWZ : No such thing as a bad question...only bad answers. You would be surprised how an "idiot" question can elicit interesting and embarassing information
228 N1120A : It wasn't near Santa Barbara, it was between Malibu and Ventura That is a very common nickname for any BAe-146/ARJ family airplane THY RJ-85, same da
229 Xaphan : The Kentucky National Guard was one of the first NG units equipped with Blackhawks. The capitol of Kentucky, Frankfort, is less than 10 miles from the
230 Gordonroxburgh : Sorry Mate, but you don't need to be a member of the NTSB to see what went on here. I would go as far as saying that is is 100% IMPOSSIBLE to have th
231 Jonno : F.Y.I., I just saw on CNN (0939 PDT) that they have learned the plane did in fact depart the wrong runway.
232 Drerx7 : Its just you. Rest in Peace is a sincere term that has just been 'Hallmarked' so I wouldn't say its incensitive.
233 HarrisAir : Looking at the footage on MSNBC, there appears to be an opening in the fence, halfway between the end of the runway and the impact site. Two police c
234 71Zulu : MSNBC TV now showing overhead video of the aircraft. The main fuselage shell is burned through but the outline of the cockpit is visible; you can even
235 Post contains links and images Photopilot : Before we ask the question of how two professional pilots could visually mistake a 75 foot wide runway from a 150 foot wide runway, we need to look at
236 Goomba : CNN is now CONFIRMING that this aircraft took off from the wrong runway. Wolf Blitzer and the CNN staff also just showed us a stock photo of a CRJ-700
237 Post contains images Rpaillard : Hi all, A very sad Sunday, for sure All my respect and support for the families. Now we have this interesting picture from photopilot, thanks you. But
238 AvConsultant : It's you.
239 Piercey : RIP stands for "Rest in peace". Why would it be insensitive?
240 APFPilot1985 : Well though I am not saying in anyway that it happened in this accident. However is is possible that the wreckage could have ended up there for examp
241 Post contains images Garri767 : oh wow...MSNBC says that two of the passengers were married last night and were off to a honeymoon via this flight. so sad R.I.P all who perished Garr
242 Mika : That would make the crash site a good bit away from the airport and the barns near it. I just made a measurment of 1 mile with Google earth and if th
243 Barney Captain : Really? This happens with regularity at WN. What FAR are you referring to? Is this type specific or an operator ops spec?
244 Gordonroxburgh : We're heard the a/c went down less than a minute after it departed, so no time to be out and back in bound to R08. Additionally the TV chopper footag
245 Gh123 : During peak hours there are separate ground and tower controllers. During non-peak hours one controller will perform both functions. Usually I will ta
246 Post contains links KarlB737 : Courtesy: WLEX-TV Live Streaming Video of Comair Situtation http://www.wlextv.com/global/video/p...ory.asp%3FS%3D4827296&rnd=84547306
247 Doug_Or : I don't mean to be rude but are you a pilot (FS does not count) MSNBC reporting the hold time for people calling the special assistance line is 15 mi
248 Atco : It must be nice to live in your 100% black and white World. How do you know the aircraft did not use the main runway and suffered some kind of contro
249 SkyTaxi : I agree, while I believe people mean well, using an acronym is distasteful. Rest in peace to those that lost their lives today on flight 5191. Very s
250 APFPilot1985 : alright but that is irrelevant to what you said, you said that it is 100% impossible for an aircraft to end up where it did if it took off from the r
251 AlexPorter : Is there any confirmation whether this is actually a CRJ-100 or -200 yet? Everything I've read seems to say it's a CRJ-100, and yet it was delivered i
252 KcrwFlyer : If they used the wrong runway, it was definately prevetnable. If the used the right runway... I have no idea how the plane got where it is.
253 Gh123 : Canadair CL-600-2B19 Regional Jet CRJ-200ER
254 Post contains images Jpax : Rest in peace to the 49 passengers and crew. Best wishes for a full recovery to the First Officer. Unbelievable thing to say at this time.
255 CURLYHEADBOY : Well, at this point I think the investigators have little doubt they took off from the wrong runway, sure they will investigate this until they are 10
256 Gordonroxburgh : Sorry you feel that way, maybe you have not yet seen the TV chopper footage yet that clearly shows an aircraft off the end of r26. Some recent footag
257 Goomba : Atco - I agree with you fully...I really do. Way too early to speculate here and most assuredly inappropriate to do so; however, in this case it's pre
258 AirRyan : I used to work at CLL which is similar in size and function to LEX; a 7000' main runwaya with RJ service and a control tower. While the control tower
259 Post contains images Mika :
260 Tsaord : I'll say a pray today! This is sad and hope every family member can make it through!
261 Geg2rap : from flightaware 27-Aug-2006 CRJ1/L Blue Grass (KLEX) Hartsfield Jackson Atlanta Int'l (KATL) 06:00AM EDT 07:04AM EDT Scheduled eveyone should rememb
262 Post contains images OPNLguy : I think Atco is correct... There's a huge difference between what happened, and why it happened (or who was responsible).... The folks at NTSB could
263 Post contains links Jalto27R : http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/27/national/main1936906.shtml Looks like it used the wrong runway, and ATC gave it clearance to takeoff anyways
264 Goomba : Lexington news has just stated that officials listening to tower tapes from this morning have determined that this aircraft did in fact take off from
265 Dc10s4ever : Possibility of the crew realizing they were on the wrong runway, and rotated too early and ultimately stalled the aircraft out? In any event all indic
266 Corey07850 : Not really... If they happened to be watching the whole sequence then obviously they would notice, but what happens if they go to answer the landline
267 AlexPorter : It seems the news reports are starting to say a CRJ-200. Since they fit the same amount of passengers, it's feasible that the a/c was substituted/swi
268 Post contains images YYZflyer : My prayers are with those involved.   May those who perished rest in peace.    I hope there isn't going to be another plane crash spree like last y
269 Boston92 : According to Airnav, rnwy 8/26 was in serious poor condition, with severe cracks in the asphalt and pavement.
270 Mir : Does a CRJ even have room in the cockpit for a jumpseat? I don't think so. I think the supposed scenario is not that the crew asked to use 26, but th
271 Rpaillard : Doug_Or No, I'm not. I just try to imagine the taxiing process and the very last check before takeoff. Take a look at the reply #173. I could of cours
272 Dc10s4ever : I reember hearing on the radio, that the runway was just repaved the last couple of days and was closed. Anyone else hear the same?
273 Tvnewsguy08 : From cbsnews.com: U.S. officials who requested anonymity told CBS News Correspondent Bob Orr that the pilots apparently used a runway that was too sho
274 PROSA : At times like this it can be better for the media to report and not speculate, but that seems to be too much of a temptation to avoid.
275 Doug_Or : How could the runway have been mistaken? As already stated, the pavement was the same width The taxi from the terminal looks like it would have been p
276 Post contains links Zudnic : This is quite evident from the Google satellite photo. http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=e...825&spn=0.006963,0.021629&t=h&om=1 RIP to those who per
277 OMA2FAI2SAV : MSNBC now conferms that the aircraft took off on the wrong runway. Very very sad. As an employee who has worked on this aircraft many many times, and
278 Doug_Or : I've sat in it Reports are that the tower was open
279 Stealth777 : what I have just heard from msnbc and they quote a source that informed them. It does appear that the aircraft did take off from the G/A runway which
280 Milesrich : Another odd occurance: Kelly Heyer, the flight attendant, lived in the Cincinnati area and recently had been appointed as a base representative for th
281 AvConsultant : Today's media is about being first to report. In the mean time, keep the people tuned in by "painting" a story because we have a lot of options. Jour
282 Post contains links KarlB737 : Airport Sources confirming now to NBC News that aircraft did in fact take off on the wrong runway. Lights were on at the correct runway. All A-Netters
283 Belizexp : My condolences also go out to the family's and staff of OH. Yes I just heard the same thing too on MSNBC.
284 Post contains images EI787 : Here's a pic from CNN:
285 Access-Air : Yes I agree.....but change that COULD to an IS... I think you mean RWY 26......Its off the departure end of RWY 26. First officer is the only survivo
286 Gh123 : I must admit - I have had to 'think twice' a few times about runway 26 not being runway 22 at KLEX. I'm convinced that the controller may have given t
287 Milesrich : This crash was very preventable, and while there have been similar accidents with major carriers caused by out and out carelessness by the crew in com
288 Slider : Yes, and I think the fact they took off on the wrong runway has now been definitively established. Taxiway Alpha feeds BOTH runways from the terminal
289 Gh123 : Lexington today: Sun Sunrise at 07:03 Sunset at 20:15
290 KcrwFlyer : If theyre like the ATC here, they probably dont tell them how to get to the runway at all. The "if" has been firmed. they used 26.
291 NASCARAirforce : Keenland Raceway is nearby, those barns also could contain horses - yes the loss of a life of a horse is a loss of a life too.
292 AirRyan : Doesn't the tower controller usually wait until the aircraft is at the end of the appropriate runway before clearing them for takeoff? And if they we
293 Doug_Or : Abolutely. Problem is the V1 speed they were using would be calculated to allow them to accelerate and then abort in less than 7000'. Useful on 22, u
294 Isitsafenow : That's what I am thinking. A minor explosion was heard by folks the ground before the plane hit the surface. This would be compressor stall. The nose
295 Doug_Or : Nope. At smaller airports its not uncommon at all to be cleared while taxing out.
296 Atco : This accident is going to be a great lesson learner for the aviation industry for a long time. If the crew have made a mistake it is important we disc
297 Post contains links KarlB737 : Courtesy: CNN Comair President Briefing - Video Report http://www.cnn.com/video/player/play...mair.ky.plane.crash.pres.wlwt.wlwt ---------------------
298 Goingboeing : I didn't realize that the NTSB had returned it's findings in under 6 hours. This must be a record for them.
299 AlexPorter : My guess is that the aircraft got airborne but not much. A report said it encountered a treeline (most likely because the short length of the runway
300 Bnatraveler : One of the passengers was a very good friend of my brother from college. She was scheduled to marry on 9/30. This is truly sad.
301 Cit8sionX : Wolf Blitzer here with an expert who is an expert on experts who claim to be experts.....................
302 Enigmalady : Very sad event. My prayers are with the victims families. I've flown the CRJ100 on business many times. It's a great aircraft with a good safety recor
303 Post contains links SLCUT2777 : The FAA's chart (here is a link to the .pdf on the FAA site) makes it VERY clear that runway "8/26 is unusable for landing OR TAXIING for aircraft ov
304 Post contains links KarlB737 : Comair President Coming Back to Mics for another press conference shortly at: http://www.wlextv.com/global/video/p...ory.asp%3FS%3D4827296&rnd=8454730
305 Mir : While there are checklists to run through, standard procedure is that at least one pilot is always taxiing the plane and has their eyes outside the p
306 Isitsafenow : .......ok...so what were the folks in the tower doing? Playing poker and sippin on a bud? Come on....its way too early to point blame here...perhaps
307 Ikramerica : Suggested deletion. Go impugn thousands of pilots elsewhere. You cite numerous mainline crashes as evidence that mainline pilots wouldn't have made t
308 Ex NWA : Most Likely there were at least a couple very frequent travelers out of LEX that may have realized during the take off roll they were on the wrong run
309 Stewardess4u : I thought that maybe it was a go-around attempt, but a minute after take-off?? Not likely. There was also a newlywed couple that got married yesterday
310 CURLYHEADBOY : Do some of you guys have the performance charts or/and checklists for the type? It would be interesting to have a look...
311 Post contains images Gh123 : I have been given clearance to takeoff while taxiing to the runway. Especially in the early morning and in the evening.
312 Post contains images Jonno : OK, excuse me for piping up here, but after a couple of weeks in the UK I find myself driving on the left hand side of the road, as well as walking on
313 Senorcarnival : Another press conference on now at 230p EDT...
314 SLCUT2777 : I agree the tower and ATC personnel perhaps goofed as well. Each airport has procedures that suit the layout and one thing that should be done at LEX
315 Access-Air : I spoke via E-mail to the then (1968) Sterling/Rock Falls, Illinois Ozark station mananger and he filled me in on the details of this mix up. The lon
316 Mikkel777 : Some people say that the crew was experienced, and some say that they were not that experienced.. After the first few months as full time pilots, does
317 AerospaceFan : My deepest condolences to those affected by this tragic event. I feel very sad for the family and friends of those who were killed and of the injured
318 Post contains links and images Vanguard737 : JUST IN: The aircraft was: N431CA View Large View MediumPhoto © Stuart Haigh - topjetpix[Edited 2006-08-27 20:49:25]
319 DTW757 : It is confirmed N431CA.
320 DeltaRules : Certainly a horrible tragedy...my heart goes out to everyone involved & their families. Edit: Two people beat me to the tail number. DeltaRules[Edited
321 Post contains links and images UnitedTristar : The Aircraft View Large View MediumPhoto © Jason Bisson View Large View MediumPhoto © Paul Robbins View Large View MediumPhoto © Stuart
322 Post contains links Piercey : Now officially comfirmed as N431CA http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0471147/L/
323 Gipper913 : If this was indeed, as it appears to be, a wrong runway departure.......Holy lawsuit, Batman!
324 Mpsrent : While the helicopter TV footage of the accident scene in relationship to the runway is alarming, now is the time to pray for the victims and their lov
325 Gh123 : That Comair President is one man I'd not want to be today. Poor fella!
326 Milesrich : Second time this N# involved in accident resulting in loss of aircraft N431CA 17.12.86 CASA 212 Aviocar 200 N431CA (269) Latin Air Service [year built
327 Skyhawk62507 : I've been thinking the exact same thing, as callous as that sounds in the face of 49 lives lost. What's more -- considering the fact the airline is b
328 Aerobalance : After I turn on the aircraft lights and transponder I check the DG and compass to verify runway heading - I believe that doing this is essential to m
329 Post contains images KATL757 : Amen.
330 Gh123 : Very good practice!! Maybe they should close 26 -there's no real use for it. I have only taken off on it once before - I've never landed on it. The o
331 RobertS975 : Assuming that the wrong runway was indeed selected in the pre-dawn darkness by pilots who apparently had a short night of sleep, we are going to hear
332 DTW757 : He is doing a great job with the media. He appears to be very upset about the whole situation today. Just goes to show you that management are not so
333 ChrisNH : Is that 'short' runway used much? It seems like the number or types of aircraft that could comfortably take off and land on that strip might well be C
334 Rammstein : Condolences to the family members and friends...
335 Sevenair : . .[Edited 2006-08-27 21:08:40]
336 AvConsultant : LEX is a very loyal DL market with an established and committed relationship between between both the city and airline. I'm sure there were FF. I use
337 Post contains links KarlB737 : Adding Second Video Stream courtesy: WHAS-TV http://www.whas11.com/sharedcontent/...Id=57426&live=yes&props=liveplayer Forget this link it just went a
338 Alitalia744 : Glad to see JAGflyer's flight must have obviously made it. Sick that he coudn't offer respect givenhe was more concerned that it didn't affect his fl
339 Ikramerica : I am not a pilot, but I've heard pilots make the "be seated for takeoff" announcement well short of the runway, often just at the start of taxiing at
340 Gh123 : Chris in NH Like I said above, I have been flying from lexington for 2 years. I have only taken off on it once. I've never landed on it and I have ne
341 ATLAaron : By Comair not answering ANY questions regarding the runway issue including saying what runway the aircraft took off from, is not a good sign. To me th
342 AvConsultant : If you think he looks familiar, he's the guy who was getting beat up during the OH Christmas/IT debacle a few years back.
343 Goldenshield : I recommend this thread be closed and another started. It's taking too long to load for broadband.
344 Post contains images Jonno : Like KLM at Tenerife in '77, right? No chance in hell of lift, but the alternative was slamming into the Pan Am 747. Saved lives, at least for Pan Am
345 Bruce : How do we know what their rest period was? Has this been reported anywhere?
346 Halophila : I personally more wouldn't want to be one of the 49 people who were killed today. Best of luck to the first officer in hospital, and kudos to his inj
347 ATLAaron : I was thinking the same thing. I would think Delta would use this as a time to liquidate Comair quickly. By getting rid of the Comair name Delta migh
348 Gh123 : I agree - how do you do that?
349 HAWK21M : Sad case for Aviation. regds MEL
350 Sevenair : Yeah, bad craic. It seems his post was more of a "let's hope I'm ok" as apposed to, "theres been a hoffific plane crash", notwithstanding the title o
351 Post contains links M180up : Let's use this thread I just opened: Comair CRJ-100 Plane Has Crashed In LEX Part II (by M180up Aug 27 2006 in Civil Aviation) This is already too lon
352 AvConsultant : He's doing what he is suppose to do. Information must be collected, deciphered and accurately reported. Comair is now a bystander only communicating
353 DTW757 : Management of corporations are people too. They are not monsters and what you're saying is this man is some sort of monster not concerned in the leas
354 Post contains links Garri767 : please continue here @ Comair CRJ-100 Plane Has Crashed In LEX Part II (by M180up Aug 27 2006 in Civil Aviation) Garri767[Edited 2006-08-27 21:39:11]
355 Boston92 : You also have to consider the one ATC man. Even id the captain was cleared fo takeoff before holding short of 22, the ATC still should have said some
356 Toering : I see, according to Flight Explorer, a DL 757 has left LEX ( DAL9865) . Could this be a flight to bring Delta's CEOs, and PRES, ect... to and from the
357 Nkops : prayers to all involved... hope the survivor survives and can give some answers!!! Second that!!
358 Post contains images TrojanAE : I hate how every time there's an accident and people on A.net discuss it there's always a scattering of comments such as the ones above. Grow UP!!! I
359 RIXrat : On a live NBC affiliate feed, the CEO of Comair just held his second press briefing of the day. The theme, as expected, was on the care of families. H
360 Aussieindc : C'mon, whether you are a religious person or not, to take offence to so someone saying everyone should be praying is somewhat unjust.
361 ATLAaron : Trojan I do not think it is humanly possible for me to agree more.
362 TymnBalewne : Don't runways generally have 1000 ft markers along side so that that the pilots can see the remaining runway length? Do 22 and 26 have these? C.
363 Boston92 : It was dark outside and 26 is an unlit rnwy.
364 AirWillie6475 : I pray this isn't something as simple as taking off from the wrong runway and pilot error. Looking at airport info at airnav.com it says that runway 2
365 RIXrat : TrojanAE, Very good post, except I don't agree with your 180 degree theory. Skid marks always run backward.
366 F9Animal : I still have not seen a clear pic of the wreckage. I am not able to see it in the air footage shot. Someone stated they saw the cockpit section, and i
367 NIKV69 : If that was the case there wouldn't be any replies in this thead. Pretty straightforward. Halloween? Are you for real? It stands for "Rest In Peace"
368 Elcableguy77 : Or it could be that they don't want to engage in any speculation and instead wait for the facts to come in. My thoughts and prayers are with the fami
369 Gipper913 : Precisely what preciptated my comment (as an attorney) regarding lawsuit potential aboove. Very observant of you. Anything he said today could come b
370 APFPilot1985 : This is a major reason why I hate the CRJ-200. It is a poor performer as far as take off and landing distance are concerned. We get it multiple times
371 Captaink : This is all very sad. Sorry for the family and friends that have lost someone in the crash. About him taking off on the wrong runway, I don't understa
372 Boston92 : RIP is only on every Gravestone. Is that insensitive too? My heart goes out to the people on that plane, and all the family and friends of those onbo
373 Post contains links F9Animal : About 24 minutes into this video, the helicopter pilots report clearly shows me that this runway could easily be confused. If I was tired, and deep in
374 FlyinTLow : Sorry, didn't have the time to read through the entire 372 replies here, just wanted to comment on 2 things: Pilots are trained to make AS LITTLE MIST
375 Post contains links Diamond : Please continue the discussion here: Comair CRJ-100 Plane Has Crashed In LEX Part II (by M180up Aug 27 2006 in Civil Aviation)
376 Flyf15 : Sounds like the crew was on a continous duty overnight. Also, the airport was getting construction that changed its taxiways from whats charted. Put t
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