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Two New Airlines At MSP?  
User currently offlineAf773atmsp From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 2692 posts, RR: 1
Posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 4714 times:

I went on to mspairport.com looking at the airlines that fly to MSP. While I was looking at the airline competition 2004 page it said that two new airlines are planning to fly to MSP. Does anybody know what the airlines are?


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User currently offlinePilottim747 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1607 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 4632 times:

It says that two domestic low-fare carriers and two international flag carriers "have expressed interest" in serving MSP. A far way from planning on serving MSP

My guess is that the Metropolitan Airports Commission (owner and operator of the airport) has been talking with more airlines than just those in the report. I'm sure they've at least talked with JetBlue and Southwest. As for international carriers? Perhaps Lufthansa and British Airways, I know for sure they talked with them a few years ago.



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User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8677 posts, RR: 16
Reply 2, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 4608 times:

My guess is B6 and LH.

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User currently offlineDesertAir From Mexico, joined Jan 2006, 1462 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 4574 times:

Would KLM/AF be a possibility for European service? KLM is well known to NW flyers.

User currently offlineNWBOS From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 158 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 4492 times:

European routes struggle in the winter at MSP, especially LGW. They have suspended the route and/or cut frequencies the past couple of years. Another carrier's entry would seem unlikely at this point. A NW or AF CDG flight seems more likely (and been rumored many times on this board), but I would suspect that one of the MSP-AMS frequencies would be cut if that happened. If BA was allowed to come in, NW would be up in arms because they've always been trying to get into Heathrow.

User currently offlinePilottim747 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1607 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 4452 times:

The Metropolitan Airports Commission (MAC) did recently approve an international air service incentives package for new international routes (besides Canada).

Incentives for new international air service - MSP Update Blog (08/09/06).



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User currently offlineJano From Slovakia, joined Jan 2004, 827 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4413 times:

Quoting NWBOS (Reply 4):
If BA was allowed to come in, NW would be up in arms because they've always been trying to get into Heathrow.

Is not it the case that BA cannot fly LHR-MSP, but rather LGW-MSP, as long as NW does MSP-LGW?



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User currently offlineRandyWaldron From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 324 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4401 times:

Quoting Af773atmsp (Thread starter):
went on to mspairport.com looking at the airlines that fly to MSP. While I was looking at the airline competition 2004 page it said that two new airlines are planning to fly to MSP. Does anybody know what the airlines are?

The 2004 page...hmmm. We're 3/4 of the way through 2006. Is that pertinent information? NWA will fight like a rabid dog to keep competition out of that market, especially on international routes. At the rate the airline industry is going, no one should be relying on so-called "progressive" statements made two years prior for future, i.e. 2007, service speculations.



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User currently offlineCentrair From Japan, joined Jan 2005, 3598 posts, RR: 20
Reply 8, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 4332 times:

Even though the info is old from the site, sure is fun to think about.

Though NW will fight to keep competition out of MSP, MAC and the Twin cities will want to attract airlines so that NW is charged with "monopolistic practices".

If there are two domestic carriers adn two Internationals, my vote are for:
Domestic
B6 - Which could work
WN - Which might be more of a problem. It depends on where they fly.

They would use the HHH as is planned for all non-skyteam to move there.

International
Lindberg terminal is to go all Skyteam
AF - Skyteam member owner of KLM
AM - Skyteam member that could do it with narrow body craft

Doubtfuls
LH...why? They serve DTW (auto industry) and ORD (big O&D)...why would they want MSP? Could it be sustained?
BA...see above. Anyway LGW is seasonal could MSP sustain year round
traffic?
EK...they seem to want to be at every international airport  Wink

I don't live in MSP anymore, but I know there is a lot of politiking going on to attract more diverse businesses, to help increase support for a large sproting event bid in 2020. (Airport expansion, mass transit expansion, hotel construction etc...anyone aware of the coincidences?)



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User currently offlineDTWAGENT From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1283 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 4310 times:

Why could'nt BA go MSP-LHR. They do it in DTW and the loads have been good. So why not in MSP?

User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 10, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 4173 times:

Quoting DTWAGENT (Reply 9):
Why could'nt BA go MSP-LHR.

Because under Bermuda II, they cannot. Only a US carrier could, but then again, neither UA or AA fly longhauls out of MSP. Only Northwest does, but they are not part of Bermuda II and thus cannot fly into Heathrow.

Here's a topic on Bermuda II which explains a bit this treaty.

Bermuda II Synopsis (by B747-437B Jun 12 2002 in Civil Aviation)

[Edited 2006-08-28 05:00:30]

[Edited 2006-08-28 05:02:09]

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