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MQ Begins Service Between LGA And YHZ  
User currently offlineCslusarc From Canada, joined May 2005, 840 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3591 times:

American Eagle Begins Service Between New York LaGuardia and Halifax, Nova Scotia

Press Release on Yahoo!

- using 37-seat Embraer 135
- new preclearance facility opens at YHZ
- MQ will continue to fly from JFK to YHZ

The schedule for the new service is as follows (all times local):

New York LaGuardia to Halifax (LGA-YHZ)

Flight Departs Arrives
4797 12:15 p.m. 3:05 p.m.


Halifax to New York LaGuardia (YHZ-LGA)

Flight Departs Arrives
4799 3:40 p.m. 4:50 p.m

[Edited to change AE to MQ.]

[Edited 2006-08-29 18:08:14]


--cslusarc from YWG
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User currently offlineNWA757boy From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 676 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3584 times:

Hmmm going up against COex on that route (EWR-YHZ) except XJT uses the erj-145.

User currently offlineJcarv From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 364 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3559 times:

Does anyone know exactly when the US CBP pre-clearance opens in YHZ? I know it currently is not. That is good news for pax travelling from YHZ.

User currently offlineCslusarc From Canada, joined May 2005, 840 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3534 times:

Should US CBP open more pre-clearance facilities in Canada? where?
[yes, in YHM, YQB at least. And perhaps YXU as it has a larger population than YHZ.]

Should US CBP open pre-clearance facilities oversears? where?
[Mexico, GRU, LHR/LGW.... Any overseas airport that generates more US-bound traffic than YHZ.]



--cslusarc from YWG
User currently offlineJamincan From Canada, joined Aug 2006, 776 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3506 times:

Quoting Cslusarc (Reply 3):
Should US CBP open more pre-clearance facilities in Canada? where?
[yes, in YHM, YQB at least. And perhaps YXU as it has a larger population than YHZ.]

Except for YQB, do any of those even have transborder service? Of the airports in Canada that don't have preclearance, if they do decide to open another facility, it's almost certainly going to be out west, YXE or YQR in my opinion.


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33033 posts, RR: 71
Reply 5, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 3459 times:

Quoting NWA757boy (Reply 1):
Hmmm going up against COex on that route (EWR-YHZ) except XJT uses the erj-145.

It is a new airport pair for AA, but not a new market. American Eagle already flies JFK-YHZ twice a daily.



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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26597 posts, RR: 75
Reply 6, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 3409 times:

Quoting NWA757boy (Reply 1):
Hmmm going up against COex on that route (EWR-YHZ) except XJT uses the erj-145.

There is a difference there. CO mainly uses that route for connections through their Newark hub while AA will be using the route for O&D into New York City

Quoting Jcarv (Reply 2):
Does anyone know exactly when the US CBP pre-clearance opens in YHZ? I know it currently is not.

It will open before these flights start

Quoting Jamincan (Reply 4):
Except for YQB, do any of those even have transborder service?

YHM would likely get transborder flights if it had preclearance. This is a chicken and egg thing.

BTW, several smaller airports in Canada (Kitchener, Fredericton, Thunder Bay, London, etc.) do get transborder service and don't have preclearance

Quoting Cslusarc (Reply 3):
Should US CBP open pre-clearance facilities oversears? where?
[Mexico, GRU, LHR/LGW.... Any overseas airport that generates more US-bound traffic than YHZ.]

Prior to Hurricane Wilma, plans were underway to do a test program at CUN, which may still happen now that the area has pretty much fully recovered.



Mangeons les French fries, mais surtout pratiquons avec fierte le French kiss
User currently offlineElmoTheHobo From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 1545 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 3303 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 6):
There is a difference there. CO mainly uses that route for connections through their Newark hub while AA will be using the route for O&D into New York City

I was under the impression that American connected a large number of its YHZ, YUL and YYZ passengers onwards to the Caribbean.

This new LGA flight might be more for O/D. American also flew YHZ-BOS only a few years back.


User currently offlineElmoTheHobo From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 1545 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 3300 times:

Quoting Cslusarc (Reply 3):
Should US CBP open pre-clearance facilities oversears? where?
[Mexico, GRU, LHR/LGW.... Any overseas airport that generates more US-bound traffic than YHZ.]

Shannon and Dublin, to my surprise, offer Customs Pre-Clearance facilities. Based on that fact, I could see it being offered from a few other destinations in Europe. The only problem being... no more duty free on the plane!


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26597 posts, RR: 75
Reply 9, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 3300 times:

Quoting ElmoTheHobo (Reply 7):
I was under the impression that American connected a large number of its YHZ, YUL and YYZ passengers onwards to the Caribbean.

At JFK, perhaps. LGA's FIS is too small to handle mainline flights, so non-precleared or SJU Carribean flights are a no go.

Quoting ElmoTheHobo (Reply 7):
American also flew YHZ-BOS only a few years back.

Perhaps, but the route is now covered by Comair and Air Canada Jazz



Mangeons les French fries, mais surtout pratiquons avec fierte le French kiss
User currently offlineCommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11752 posts, RR: 62
Reply 10, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 3291 times:

Quoting ElmoTheHobo (Reply 7):
I was under the impression that American connected a large number of its YHZ, YUL and YYZ passengers onwards to the Caribbean.

LGA will be for O&D and some domestic connections to major markets like DFW, ORD, MIA, etc., plus maybe DCA, RDU, etc. JFK is, indeed, used for connections -- largely to the Caribbean. The morning YUL- and YHZ-JFK flights are perfectly timed for Caribbean connections, and the afternoon/early evening YUL-, YYZ- and YHZ-JFK flights are perfectly timed for European connections.


User currently offlineElmoTheHobo From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 1545 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 3288 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 9):
so non-precleared or SJU Carribean flights are a no go.

Not to mention that SJU and most of the Caribbean are outside of LGA's operating perimeter (except Saturdays), and that American doesn't serve the region from LGA.


User currently offlineYOW From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3203 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 6):
YHM would likely get transborder flights if it had preclearance. This is a chicken and egg thing.

YHM already has seasonal transborder service to Florida. US Border Protection aren't going waste resources to set up US Pre-clearance at an airport with less than 200,000 transborder pax a year. Like ya said above, other small airports have US hub flights without pre-clearance. Being so close to BUF and even closer to YYZ is what hinders YHM from re-establishing a transborder link into a hub. YKF on the other hand, even though it's close to YHM, is far enough away from BUF for NW to have taken notice.

While I doubt we'll see any new US Pre-clearance facilities in Canada for at least a decade, YQB or YYJ would be the next logical places, but both of those airports will have to nearly double their transborder numbers before getting considered.


User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16883 posts, RR: 51
Reply 13, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3169 times:

Quoting ElmoTheHobo (Reply 7):
I was under the impression that American connected a large number of its YHZ, YUL and YYZ passengers onwards to the Caribbean.

Two years ago my fiancee and I flew AA JFK-YUL on a ERJ-140 (or is 144) and YUL-JFK on a ERJ-135, on the flight back I notice that of the 35 or so people on the flight only about four had JFK as our final destination (including myself and my fiancee). The rest were connecting to St.Maarten, Aruba and a couple other Caribbean destinations.

Quoting NWA757boy (Reply 1):
Hmmm going up against COex on that route (EWR-YHZ) except XJT uses the erj-145.

CO also flies a daily 737-500 between EWR and YHZ, 3 ERJ-145s, 1 737-500.



Eastern Air lines flt # 701, EWR-MCO Boeing 757
User currently offlineJFKLGANYC From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 3535 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 3122 times:

"Two years ago my fiancee and I flew AA JFK-YUL on a ERJ-140 (or is 144) and YUL-JFK on a ERJ-135, on the flight back I notice that of the 35 or so people on the flight only about four had JFK as our final destination (including myself and my fiancee). The rest were connecting to St.Maarten, Aruba and a couple other Caribbean destinations."

It's one of the highest connecting markets I've noticed on Eagle out of JFK.

From what I have seen, there are a lot of conx to Europe, the Islands, and the transcons.

PJ


User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16883 posts, RR: 51
Reply 15, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 3078 times:

Quoting JFKLGANYC (Reply 14):
It's one of the highest connecting markets I've noticed on Eagle out of JFK.

From what I have seen, there are a lot of conx to Europe, the Islands, and the transcons.

The flight we took from Montreal back to JFK was a early flight (very early), it seemed timed so that they could connect to AA's large morning Caribbean departure bank. Like I posted it was mostly Canadians heading for the Caribbean, only a handfull of us were not connecting.



Eastern Air lines flt # 701, EWR-MCO Boeing 757
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