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Why No Orlando-Vegas On Allegiant?  
User currently offlineBoston92 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3390 posts, RR: 7
Posted (8 years 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 3934 times:

Just what the topic says, seems like it what do really well.


"Why does a slight tax increase cost you $200 and a substantial tax cut save you 30 cents?"
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User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8898 posts, RR: 12
Reply 1, posted (8 years 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 3930 times:

I doubt the MD-80s can make it. I know DL uses its MD-88s on ATL-TUS/PHX runs occasionally, and those are barely making it in, and that flight is a lot shorter than LAS-SFB, which is over 2000 miles.

User currently offlineMEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4325 posts, RR: 36
Reply 2, posted (8 years 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 3922 times:

they concentrate on small markets which is not served or with expensive connecting flights by the others. Orlando-Vegas is served by other airlines already, they don't want to get into US Airways/America West territory.


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User currently offlineBoston92 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3390 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (8 years 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 3911 times:

Quoting DeltAirlines (Reply 1):
I doubt the MD-80s can make

There MD 83's could make it with about 650 miles to spare.



"Why does a slight tax increase cost you $200 and a substantial tax cut save you 30 cents?"
User currently offlineBeefstew25 From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 675 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 3911 times:

Delta and US Airways run it now...The DL flight out is about as good as any nightclub in Vegas....


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User currently offlineDeltaMIA From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1672 posts, RR: 17
Reply 5, posted (8 years 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 3892 times:

Quoting Boston92 (Reply 3):
There MD 83's could make it with about 650 miles to spare.

They couldn't make it in either direction with a full load. They run charters from Florida all the time and they fuel stop in LA, TX or OK.



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User currently offlineBoston92 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3390 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (8 years 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 3885 times:

The MD87 might not make it, but the 83 has a range of 2500nm, LAS to sanford is less than 2000nm.


"Why does a slight tax increase cost you $200 and a substantial tax cut save you 30 cents?"
User currently offlineBnamaxx From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 3856 times:

I beleive WN also has a flight in there too.

User currently offlineCOERJ From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 238 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3766 times:

First of all, the other flights are into MCO not SFB, which really doesn't make a difference.

I think the flight would to excellent, as it could provide additional connections between hubs. There is alot of O/D Traffic with Allegiant as LAS and SFB are both popular destinations, and I'm sure they could make a great connection from a western city to Florida.


User currently offlineIowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4396 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (8 years 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3766 times:
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Quoting Bnamaxx (Reply 7):
I beleive WN also has a flight in there too.

Yep, WN started a daily N/S flight LAS-MCO this summer. If Allegiant started LAS-MCO they would also have to compete with an HP and DL red-eye.



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User currently offlineOuboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4590 posts, RR: 23
Reply 10, posted (8 years 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 3739 times:

Quoting Boston92 (Reply 6):
The MD87 might not make it, but the 83 has a range of 2500nm, LAS to sanford is less than 2000nm.

The planes struggled to make it on TOL-LAS...cost them way too much in fuel and had to yank it. I could only imagine what SFB (not MCO) to LAS would be like with all the competition out of MCO.


User currently offlineHiflyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2172 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (8 years 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3664 times:

Even though they reduced to 150 seats they can't make it routinely on a full load...fuel stop required. Plus it's not their profile to fly from major point to major point....grin.

User currently offlineSteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9197 posts, RR: 20
Reply 12, posted (8 years 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 3596 times:

Quoting Beefstew25 (Reply 4):
Delta and US Airways run it now...

With better, more viable 737/A320 aircraft with the range capabilities I would imagine...



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User currently offlineAlexPorter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 3592 times:

Does Allegiant have any "direct" flights between the two cities at all (not non-stop)?

User currently offlineBoston92 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3390 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (8 years 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3510 times:

Quoting AlexPorter (Reply 13):
Does Allegiant have any "direct" flights between the two cities at all (not non-stop)?

I dont think so. All O&D. You could book it yourself, 2 r/t.



"Why does a slight tax increase cost you $200 and a substantial tax cut save you 30 cents?"
User currently offlineAirWillie6475 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 2448 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (8 years 4 days ago) and read 3475 times:

Allegiant is a vacation airline, and they are "fly over states" friendly. So flying Las-Orl doesn't make sense because they bring people to these points not connect them. They make money by flying into 2nd rate airports, and I guess it works. I don't know how popular flying is over these areas, I guess Vegas and Orlando might be in the midwest, but I can tell you that the 3 airports they fly into California, airports are based at cities with very little air traffic, except for maybe Fresno but still small. I guess they know something other airlines don't because they are having a lot of success and with the gas guzzling MD80 too. Oh wait never mind, I just thought the fact that they pay their employees regional airline wages.

[Edited 2006-08-30 17:17:44]

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