YYCowboy From Canada, joined Aug 2006, 143 posts, RR: 2 Posted (6 years 8 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 1662 times:
Can anyone explain the details on Canadian / American open skies agreement, and how it will change North American air travel as we know it? Will this allow Canadian carriers to fill any voids left IF a major US carrier fails?
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MAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 31118 posts, RR: 73 Reply 1, posted (6 years 8 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1630 times:
It really isn't a big deal. The only major new thing it allows is that US and Canadian airlines now have unlimited 5th freedom from the US and Canada, pending agreements reached with the third party country. So far, Air Canada has announced YYZ-LAX-HNL and is considering YYZ-MIA-JNB. That's about all we've seen.
It isn't that big of a deal because even before Open Skies, the air treaty was still extremely liberal, and Canadian airlines could still get 5th freedom from the US, as AC has on HNL-SYD (and previously HNL-MEL).
Travelin man From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3312 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (6 years 8 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1593 times:
Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 1): So far, Air Canada has announced YYZ-LAX-HNL
Bnamaxx From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 6, posted (6 years 8 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1565 times:
Which brings up another question that's probably been here before - is YVR-SYD not economically viable since they have 345's and will be getting the T7's? Seems like they flew it (at least eastbound) nonstop for a while.
YYCowboy From Canada, joined Aug 2006, 143 posts, RR: 2 Reply 7, posted (6 years 8 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1513 times:
I always wondered about YVR - SYD, non stop, seems like a natural.
Back to my origional question on open skies, I was pondering another thread, regarding the fate of MSP and perhaps DTW without NW, and could see AC or WJ filling a gap there, maybe. Given NW current Canadian routes, the folks in MSP would have an option, both international and domestic.
Any thoughts?
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Flyb From Canada, joined Aug 2006, 630 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (6 years 8 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 1465 times:
That would be an interesting hub for Air Canada if we had "true" open skies with the United States. I would think that another US carrier would probably jump on this before AC would for numerous reasons. Personally I don't see NWA going under, I see them maybe merging with another airline very shortly.
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