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Late Night Intl Ops To/from India  
User currently offlineArunswami From India, joined Jun 2005, 5 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 3 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2693 times:

Hello everyone, this is my first time as a member on Airliners.net. I've been browsing the forums etc for more than a year. I have to say, during this period, I've learnt a lot about aviation and for this I have to thank everyone who has participated.
I've been wanting to ask this question for a long time, so here goes.

Why do most Intl operations arrive/depart between 11 PM and 6 AM LT. this makes it extremely inconvenient for passengers (incl. myself!!)
Is it because of better connections from point of origin or airline hubs, better aircraft utilization etc?
I would love to be able to land and takeoff from India during some sane hour rather than 2 AM.
Thanks

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User currently offlineAA61Hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 1, posted (8 years 3 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2688 times:

Quoting Arunswami (Thread starter):
s it because of better connections from point of origin or airline hubs, better aircraft utilization etc?

I know, at least to Europe, it makes sense as the planes all get back to their origins in the morning. Freeing up the planes for the remainder of the day.



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User currently offlineLaxintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 26028 posts, RR: 50
Reply 2, posted (8 years 3 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2675 times:

Ultimately airline schedules are built outwards from a carriers hub to offer maximum connectivity. Add in issues such as curfews (at most European airports), such late night flying to places like India become quite a normal practice to make best use of aircraft assets.


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User currently offlineRobertS975 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 951 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 3 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2660 times:
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Aircraft leaving India in the small hours of the morning arrive in Europe more or less at dawn and allow onward connections from the European hubs to other European destinations as well as North and South America.

User currently offlineSkyguy From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 486 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 3 months 2 days ago) and read 2654 times:

Quoting RobertS975 (Reply 3):
Aircraft leaving India in the small hours of the morning arrive in Europe more or less at dawn and allow onward connections from the European hubs to other European destinations as well as North and South America.

This is correct.

Most of these airports shut down after midnight for 5 hours or so thus making night arrivals/departures there impossible.
Many other airports in Asia and Africa are open 24 hours and also have several arrivals and departures at odd hours of the night.



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User currently offlineEHHO From Bulgaria, joined Dec 2005, 815 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (8 years 3 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2585 times:

I like it, to be honest. Just got back from BOM this morning, on NW41, and I must say it's nice. I hung out with friends until 11pm in Mumbai yesterday, and was able to do a business appointment in The Hague at 9am this morning.

As Laxintl said, European airports have curfews due to environmental and hindrance legislation, which is absent in India. So, basically it's an extra perk that they can use those night slots. Also, the time difference with India is relatively small for such a big distance: 3.5 hours with CET. Now, if only BOM had an airport that wouldn't be such a craphole during those evening rushhours..  Yeah sure  sigh 

By the way, read in the Times while I was there that Mum might be getting a new airport? Anymore known?



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User currently offlineAI From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 318 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 3 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2585 times:

In addition to ease of connections, if I am not mistaken its also got to do something with the amount of fuel used up during takeoff in warm weather, such that in hotter countries its economical for flights to takeoff during night time when the temperature is lower. But as I said earlier, I am not 100% certain about this

AI


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