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A300 Production Ending?  
User currently offlinePennPal From United States of America, joined May 2004, 170 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2326 times:

The October 2006 edition of "Airways" magazine states that Airbus will end production of the A300 series next July. That's the first I've heard that this model will no longer be built. Can anyone confirm this...or has this been discussed before and I just missed it????

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User currently offlineCoyoteguy From Mexico, joined Oct 2001, 442 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2281 times:

http://www.airbus.com/en/presscentre.../07_03_06_A300_final_assembly.html

User currently offlineCoyoteguy From Mexico, joined Oct 2001, 442 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2278 times:

Have to say I am surprised.... I thought they stopped making them years ago!

User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 30434 posts, RR: 84
Reply 3, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2278 times:
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Well with the A330F coming, I imagine the demand for the A300F would be drying up...

User currently offlineScouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 3371 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2237 times:

Quoting Coyoteguy (Reply 2):
Have to say I am surprised.... I thought they stopped making them years ago!

It's been winding down but they're still currently making them :

http://www.airbus.com/en/myairbus/headlinenews/index.jsp


As of the end of July they've got 8 to deliver:

1 to UPS (see above link)
6 to FedEx
1 to Galaxy (whoever they are)

(Source Airbus orders and deliveries spread-sheet.


User currently offlineBarbarian From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 54 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2217 times:

Last set of wings are currently in Jig at Broughton (UK). A set of these main assy jigs will be kept available until the a/c it is delivered to its customer next year, then its really goodbye and goodnight.

User currently offlineLegoguy From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 3312 posts, RR: 40
Reply 6, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2185 times:

Quoting Coyoteguy (Reply 2):
Have to say I am surprised.... I thought they stopped making them years ago!

Me too!

So are airbus building new freight a300's or are they just modifing old ones? And what is the price tag on one of these aircraft?



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User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 7, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2146 times:

Quoting Legoguy (Reply 6):
So are airbus building new freight a300's or are they just modifing old ones? And what is the price tag on one of these aircraft?

Well, people can still have A300s converted to freighters at DRS.

AFAIK, a brandnew A300F4-605R/-622R is basically not a factory built freighter, but rather a full PAX aircraft with plugged windows, which goes for conversion to DRS (correct me if I'm wrong though). A bit different from what Douglas and Boeing did and still do, which is building them as freighters from the factory and offering conversions for aircraft already in service.


User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6708 posts, RR: 78
Reply 8, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2104 times:

Quoting Scouseflyer (Reply 4):
1 to Galaxy (whoever they are)

Galaxy Airlines (alias Sagawa Express) is a Japanese cargo carrier based at HND which currently operates one used A300F-622R (ex-CAL).


PH



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User currently offlineScorpio From Belgium, joined Oct 2001, 5005 posts, RR: 44
Reply 9, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2057 times:

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 7):
AFAIK, a brandnew A300F4-605R/-622R is basically not a factory built freighter, but rather a full PAX aircraft with plugged windows, which goes for conversion to DRS (correct me if I'm wrong though).

You're wrong. The A300s discussed in this article are newly built, as freighters. The ones you see in DRS are conversions. A few pictures to illustrate:

This one shows a converted A300-600 at DRS. You can clearly see where the cutting was done to install the cargo door, and you can see the plugged windows.

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Photo © Georg Noack



And this one is a newbuild. Nothing indicating any conversion work, and no plugged windows, as the windows were never there.

View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © OlivierG


[Edited 2006-08-30 21:08:50]

User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 10, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1816 times:

Quoting Scorpio (Reply 9):
And this one is a newbuild. Nothing indicating any conversion work, and no plugged windows, as the windows were never there.

I stand corrected. Thank you. I must have gotten fooled somehow, but then again, Airbus isn't as big in the Freighter market as Boeing and Douglas are.

Thanks again for the correction.


User currently offlineKaitak744 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 2360 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1789 times:

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 10):
I stand corrected. Thank you. I must have gotten fooled somehow, but then again, Airbus isn't as big in the Freighter market as Boeing and Douglas are.

Well, Douglas is long dead, and Airbus quite big in the market, maybe not as big as Boeing, but after all, they do offer the world's largest commercial freighter (A380F).

http://www.boeing.com/randy/archives/photos/freighter_products.html


User currently offlineSilver1SWA From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 4761 posts, RR: 26
Reply 12, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1780 times:
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Quoting Coyoteguy (Reply 2):
Have to say I am surprised.... I thought they stopped making them years ago!



Quoting Legoguy (Reply 6):
Me too!

Me three! lol



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User currently offlineAviator27 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1698 times:

The A330F has not been launched yet. It may never be launch with the industrial launch for A350F coming up. Something to ponder.

User currently offlineScouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 3371 posts, RR: 9
Reply 14, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1559 times:

Quoting Aviator27 (Reply 13):
The A330F has not been launched yet. It may never be launch with the industrial launch for A350F coming up. Something to ponder.

Think it will happen as the 330F will be cheaper than the 350F (almost fully amotized development costs) so there should be a market for both.


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