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Another US Merger Rumor  
User currently offlinePhxplanes From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 436 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 1 month 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 11283 times:

Ok I heard this rumor a while ago and think it is 100% not going to happen but I just thought it would be fun to talk about.

Someone told me that British Airways was planning on buying out US Airways. I asked if he was joking but he said it was true.

I dont even know if a foreign company could even buy out US but I think thats ridiculous. Any way lets just say it did happen what do you guys think would happen.

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User currently offlineSafetyDude From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3795 posts, RR: 15
Reply 1, posted (8 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 11259 times:

Let's put it this way: If BA bought US, there would be no more squabbles over Virgin America.

-Will



"She Flew For What We Stand For"
User currently offlineRpaillard From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 11259 times:

Quoting Phxplanes (Thread starter):
dont even know if a foreign company could even buy out US but I think thats ridiculous

As far as I know, it's just impossible thanks to the law in the US. Virgin America comes to mind regarding this restriction.

Regards,
Raphael


User currently offlineM180up From El Salvador, joined May 2006, 403 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (8 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 11259 times:

Quoting Phxplanes (Thread starter):
Ok I heard this rumor a while ago and think it is 100% not going to happen but I just thought it would be fun to talk about.

 rotfl  ok, I already had fun with it...

Quoting Phxplanes (Thread starter):
Someone told me that British Airways was planning on buying out US Airways. I asked if he was joking but he said it was true.

And you had to believe it...  Yeah sure

Quoting Phxplanes (Thread starter):
I dont even know if a foreign company could even buy out US but I think thats ridiculous. Any way lets just say it did happen what do you guys think would happen.

Foreign companies can't have the control of a US airline.
They can have up to 40% of the stock IIRC, and can't have certain positions in the board of directors.

Now next ridiculous thread please.



Werner from SAL
User currently offlinePhxplanes From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 436 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 11140 times:

Quoting M180up (Reply 3):
And you had to believe it...

I didnt believe it, I just wasnt going to argue with him that it wasnt true.


User currently offlineWorldTraveler From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 11085 times:

Quoting M180up (Reply 3):
They can have up to 40% of the stock IIRC

25% voting control


User currently offlineMattRB From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 1624 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (8 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 11022 times:

Quoting M180up (Reply 3):
Now next ridiculous thread please.

NW DC-9 Replacement Imminent!

Would that qualify?  Wink



Aviation is proof that given, the will, we have the capacity to achieve the impossible.
User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 7, posted (8 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 11022 times:

Quoting M180up (Reply 3):
They can have up to 40% of the stock IIRC, and can't have certain positions in the board of directors.

49% of the shares, but only 25% can cast votes.

N


User currently offlineSeeTheWorld From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 1325 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (8 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 10991 times:

You're caught in a time warp. BA wanted to "buy" US Airways in 1993 - the original deal had to be scaled back significantly because of the "control" issues and laws about 25% stakes (as mentioned above).

I believe the original investment from BA was going to be something like $750 million in US. Finally, it was scaled back considerably so a codeshare deal could be made between the two, and after 1994 (a terrible year for US with the Charlotte and Pittsburgh crashes), BA bailed and hitched up with AA. The relationship between US and BA was never very good - BA treated US like its "red-headed" step-child.


User currently offlineRP TPA From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 852 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 10991 times:

Quoting M180up (Reply 3):
Now next ridiculous thread please

"AIR KORYO TO JOIN STAR ALLIANCE"


User currently offlineFURUREFA From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 805 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (8 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 10916 times:

In the early 1990s, British Airways invested in US Air, and the two had a strong relationship. There were 2 US 767s that were painted in BA colors:

but were operated by US.

Shortly after US Air re branded itself as US Airways in 1996, the "alliance"/partnership and relationship with BA ended. In 1998; BA, AA, CP, CX and QF announced oneworld.

Maybe that someone is stuck in the early 1990s?

Matt

P.S.: Last year, oneworld was the only alliance whose members earned a combined profit ($1.5 billion). Star's members lost $2.2 billion and an overall deficit in SkyTeam of over $7 billion. (source is wikipedia: oneworld http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oneworld ).


User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16885 posts, RR: 51
Reply 11, posted (8 years 1 month 4 weeks ago) and read 10756 times:

If it were at all possible for Foreign carriers to merge or acquire US carriers BA and AA would have merged a long time ago, same with UAL and LH.


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User currently offlineShowerOfSparks From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 10618 times:

Quoting M180up (Reply 3):
Now next ridiculous thread please.

Air France buys aircraft washing facility.


User currently offlineM180up From El Salvador, joined May 2006, 403 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 10427 times:

Quoting Gigneil (Reply 7):
49% of the shares, but only 25% can cast votes.

Thanks, I wasn't sure of the exact figure.

Quoting MattRB (Reply 6):
NW DC-9 Replacement Imminent!



Quoting RP TPA (Reply 9):
"AIR KORYO TO JOIN STAR ALLIANCE"



Quoting STT757 (Reply 11):
Air France buys aircraft washing facility.


Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 14):
ummmm... Airlines to fly 73G from JFK-LHR!!!!!!!




Quoting RP TPA (Reply 9):
In the early 1990s, British Airways invested in US Air, and the two had a strong relationship. There were 2 US 767s that were painted in BA colors:

but were operated by US.

Shortly after US Air re branded itself as US Airways in 1996, the "alliance"/partnership and relationship with BA ended. In 1998; BA, AA, CP, CX and QF announced oneworld.

Maybe that someone is stuck in the early 1990s?

Matt

P.S.: Last year, oneworld was the only alliance whose members earned a combined profit ($1.5 billion). Star's members lost $2.2 billion and an overall deficit in SkyTeam of over $7 billion. (source is wikipedia: oneworld http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oneworld ).



Quoting SeeTheWorld (Reply 8):
You're caught in a time warp. BA wanted to "buy" US Airways in 1993 - the original deal had to be scaled back significantly because of the "control" issues and laws about 25% stakes (as mentioned above).

I believe the original investment from BA was going to be something like $750 million in US. Finally, it was scaled back considerably so a codeshare deal could be made between the two, and after 1994 (a terrible year for US with the Charlotte and Pittsburgh crashes), BA bailed and hitched up with AA. The relationship between US and BA was never very good - BA treated US like its "red-headed" step-child.

Thanks for that also, I remembered the codeshare agreements, FF agreements, but both of you are right, Just that my first post was making fun.
No offense intended for anyone in the forum.

[Edited 2006-08-31 00:22:50]

[Edited 2006-08-31 00:26:55]


Werner from SAL
User currently offlineSteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9236 posts, RR: 21
Reply 14, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 10427 times:

Quoting M180up (Reply 3):
Now next ridiculous thread please.

ummmm... Airlines to fly 73G from JFK-LHR!!!!!!!

That has to be one of the more rediculous ones anyone could think of. Yet, I just called myself "rediculous" just because I thought of it. Would I actually post it? I have more common sense than some folks give me credit for yins guys  Smile  duck 



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User currently offlineCarledwards From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 262 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 10331 times:

Yeah this does sound like its come out of a time warp!

It all happened in the past and this photo and caption is proof!


View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Paul Morley



But it all came to an end abruptly; although I believe BA managed to steel USAir's routes into LGW at the end of it though?

US was absent from LGW for a year or two after this saga and eventually came back at a later date with different routes.



Directoria
User currently offlineVatveng From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1000 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 10255 times:

Quoting MattRB (Reply 6):
NW DC-9 Replacement Imminent!

Would that qualify? Wink

Only if you included "Boeing to re-start 717 line tomorrow at NW's request"... then it would be ridiculous enough  Smile



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User currently offlineDeltaGuy767 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 664 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 10204 times:

Quoting ShowerOfSparks (Reply 12):

Air France buys aircraft washing facility.

 rotfl  rotfl  rotfl  rotfl  rotfl 

Quoting M180up (Reply 3):
Now next ridiculous thread please.

BREAKING NEWS!!!!!
RYANAIR NOW CHARGING PAX FOR LIFE JACKETS AND SEATBELTS!!!!

Cheers from BDL,  wave 
DeltaGuy767



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User currently offlineIluv727s From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 115 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 10185 times:

Quoting M180up (Reply 3):
Now next ridiculous thread please.

WN to replace entire fleet with the A380



A lack of planning on your behalf does not create an emergency on my behalf.
User currently offlineGh123 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 10151 times:

You all laugh and joke about it but I read a good article in Forbes a few months ago and the theme was basically 'British airline companies are the only things that can save the US airline industry.'

As always, your comments please.


User currently offlineA5XX From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 245 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 10120 times:

Quoting MattRB (Reply 6):
NW DC-9 Replacement Imminent!

Would that qualify?

Now that's funny!
 rotfl   rotfl   rotfl 

A5XX



we are the boeing... resistance is futile...You will be assimilated
User currently offlineAlaska737 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1063 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 8125 times:

Quoting Iluv727s (Reply 18):
Quoting M180up (Reply 3):
Now next ridiculous thread please.

Il-86 Ordered as new Air Force 1


AS/QX to replace Boeing/Bombadier with Airbus/Embrer


AS drops SEA-ANC, "unprofitable"


User currently offlineBnamaxx From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 8023 times:

Not in a million years.

[Edited 2006-08-31 04:56:14]

User currently offlineAlaska737 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1063 posts, RR: 5
Reply 23, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 7904 times:

Quoting Gh123 (Reply 19):
'British airline companies are the only things that can save the US airline industry

i suppose thats the same "airline expert" that said it was a 707 that hit the trade center, or the one that said it was a LH 737 that crashed in YYZ, or the one that said a 734 that failed to pressurize was a "life threating emergency!!!" or the one.....you get the picture

#1 all time...."Low cost carriers save money by low costs" Business week
anything else Nostradamus of the airlines???


User currently offlineBnamaxx From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 7879 times:

I guess that means all U.S. carriers will be ripping out the window shades...

25 JJeff : ...but Forbes is lacking. Totally populist and sensational, at least by financial periodical standards.
26 ZKNBX : From memory, BA WERE planning on buying control of US Airways (late 1980s / early 1990s), that is until things got complicated, and they backed out o
27 Gregarious119 : So all things rediculous aside, how would a BA/US merger affect these routes: PHL-LHR JFK-LHR CLT-LHR Would we see increased frequencies/fleet upgrade
28 Post contains images Bennett123 : DELTAGUY767 You never know, it could happen
29 Bobnwa : The same way it would affect BOS-DCA CLT-MCO LHR-FCO
30 Post contains images DAL767400ER : Did the person you get this rumor from just climb out from a weird-looking DeLorean when he told you that? Hey, don't ignore the West Coast, PHX-SFO a
31 EXAAUADL : garbage,
32 Aviator27 : After the mid-term elections, Bush is going to put forth rules to relax foreign ownership of airlines. This was suppose to have been done before as pa
33 Post contains images MasseyBrown : My wife worked with a French scientist on temp. assignment in the US. Hearing that my wife was going to get her car washed, the visitor said, "Zut, w
34 Post contains images LPLAspotter : Now that's really funny!
35 Gregarious119 : Maybe I mis-asked my question. I was specifically asking about Trans-atlantic routes that BA or US would be picking up/adding/dropping, etc since the
36 B737700doctor : That is true no outside airline can merge with any us airlines. US and BA in the 90's fly routes for each other BA bought stock in US before their hu
37 ReverseThrust : British Airways to provide "non surly" cabin service.
38 Yellowstone : Branson Buys Concorde From Smithsonian, Uses It To Start Virgin America Fleet
39 Helvknight : FR to fit free 99 channel AVOD in all aircraft.
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