Phxplanes From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 436 posts, RR: 0 Posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 10522 times:
Ok I heard this rumor a while ago and think it is 100% not going to happen but I just thought it would be fun to talk about.
Someone told me that British Airways was planning on buying out US Airways. I asked if he was joking but he said it was true.
I dont even know if a foreign company could even buy out US but I think thats ridiculous. Any way lets just say it did happen what do you guys think would happen.
SafetyDude From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3795 posts, RR: 16 Reply 1, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 10498 times:
Let's put it this way: If BA bought US, there would be no more squabbles over Virgin America.
M180up From El Salvador, joined May 2006, 403 posts, RR: 6 Reply 3, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 10498 times:
Quoting Phxplanes (Thread starter): Ok I heard this rumor a while ago and think it is 100% not going to happen but I just thought it would be fun to talk about.
ok, I already had fun with it...
Quoting Phxplanes (Thread starter): Someone told me that British Airways was planning on buying out US Airways. I asked if he was joking but he said it was true.
And you had to believe it...
Quoting Phxplanes (Thread starter): I dont even know if a foreign company could even buy out US but I think thats ridiculous. Any way lets just say it did happen what do you guys think would happen.
Foreign companies can't have the control of a US airline.
They can have up to 40% of the stock IIRC, and can't have certain positions in the board of directors.
Phxplanes From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 436 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 10379 times:
Quoting M180up (Reply 3): And you had to believe it...
I didnt believe it, I just wasnt going to argue with him that it wasnt true.
Gigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16215 posts, RR: 88 Reply 7, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 10261 times:
Quoting M180up (Reply 3): They can have up to 40% of the stock IIRC, and can't have certain positions in the board of directors.
SeeTheWorld From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 1275 posts, RR: 4 Reply 8, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 10230 times:
You're caught in a time warp. BA wanted to "buy" US Airways in 1993 - the original deal had to be scaled back significantly because of the "control" issues and laws about 25% stakes (as mentioned above).
I believe the original investment from BA was going to be something like $750 million in US. Finally, it was scaled back considerably so a codeshare deal could be made between the two, and after 1994 (a terrible year for US with the Charlotte and Pittsburgh crashes), BA bailed and hitched up with AA. The relationship between US and BA was never very good - BA treated US like its "red-headed" step-child.
RP TPA From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 829 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 10230 times:
Quoting M180up (Reply 3): Now next ridiculous thread please
FURUREFA From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 762 posts, RR: 2 Reply 10, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 10155 times:
In the early 1990s, British Airways invested in US Air, and the two had a strong relationship. There were 2 US 767s that were painted in BA colors:
but were operated by US.
Shortly after US Air re branded itself as US Airways in 1996, the "alliance"/partnership and relationship with BA ended. In 1998; BA, AA, CP, CX and QF announced oneworld.
Maybe that someone is stuck in the early 1990s?
Matt
P.S.: Last year, oneworld was the only alliance whose members earned a combined profit ($1.5 billion). Star's members lost $2.2 billion and an overall deficit in SkyTeam of over $7 billion. (source is wikipedia: oneworld http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oneworld ).
STT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16247 posts, RR: 52 Reply 11, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 9995 times:
If it were at all possible for Foreign carriers to merge or acquire US carriers BA and AA would have merged a long time ago, same with UAL and LH.
Quoting RP TPA (Reply 9): "AIR KORYO TO JOIN STAR ALLIANCE"
Quoting STT757 (Reply 11): Air France buys aircraft washing facility.
Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 14): ummmm... Airlines to fly 73G from JFK-LHR!!!!!!!
Quoting RP TPA (Reply 9): In the early 1990s, British Airways invested in US Air, and the two had a strong relationship. There were 2 US 767s that were painted in BA colors:
but were operated by US.
Shortly after US Air re branded itself as US Airways in 1996, the "alliance"/partnership and relationship with BA ended. In 1998; BA, AA, CP, CX and QF announced oneworld.
Maybe that someone is stuck in the early 1990s?
Matt
P.S.: Last year, oneworld was the only alliance whose members earned a combined profit ($1.5 billion). Star's members lost $2.2 billion and an overall deficit in SkyTeam of over $7 billion. (source is wikipedia: oneworld http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oneworld ).
Quoting SeeTheWorld (Reply 8): You're caught in a time warp. BA wanted to "buy" US Airways in 1993 - the original deal had to be scaled back significantly because of the "control" issues and laws about 25% stakes (as mentioned above).
I believe the original investment from BA was going to be something like $750 million in US. Finally, it was scaled back considerably so a codeshare deal could be made between the two, and after 1994 (a terrible year for US with the Charlotte and Pittsburgh crashes), BA bailed and hitched up with AA. The relationship between US and BA was never very good - BA treated US like its "red-headed" step-child.
Thanks for that also, I remembered the codeshare agreements, FF agreements, but both of you are right, Just that my first post was making fun.
No offense intended for anyone in the forum.
Steeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 8802 posts, RR: 19 Reply 14, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 9666 times:
Quoting M180up (Reply 3): Now next ridiculous thread please.
ummmm... Airlines to fly 73G from JFK-LHR!!!!!!!
That has to be one of the more rediculous ones anyone could think of. Yet, I just called myself "rediculous" just because I thought of it. Would I actually post it? I have more common sense than some folks give me credit for yins guys
Do not bring stranger girt into your room. The stranger girt is dangerous, it will hurt your life.
Vatveng From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 892 posts, RR: 1 Reply 16, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 9494 times:
DeltaGuy767 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 633 posts, RR: 2 Reply 17, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 9443 times:
Iluv727s From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 115 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 9424 times:
Quoting M180up (Reply 3): Now next ridiculous thread please.
WN to replace entire fleet with the A380
A lack of planning on your behalf does not create an emergency on my behalf.
Gh123 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 19, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 9390 times:
You all laugh and joke about it but I read a good article in Forbes a few months ago and the theme was basically 'British airline companies are the only things that can save the US airline industry.'
Alaska737 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1056 posts, RR: 6 Reply 21, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 7364 times:
Quoting Iluv727s (Reply 18): Quoting M180up (Reply 3):
Now next ridiculous thread please.
Il-86 Ordered as new Air Force 1
AS/QX to replace Boeing/Bombadier with Airbus/Embrer
Alaska737 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1056 posts, RR: 6 Reply 23, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 7143 times:
Quoting Gh123 (Reply 19): 'British airline companies are the only things that can save the US airline industry
i suppose thats the same "airline expert" that said it was a 707 that hit the trade center, or the one that said it was a LH 737 that crashed in YYZ, or the one that said a 734 that failed to pressurize was a "life threating emergency!!!" or the one.....you get the picture
#1 all time...."Low cost carriers save money by low costs" Business week
anything else Nostradamus of the airlines???
Bnamaxx From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 24, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 7118 times:
I guess that means all U.S. carriers will be ripping out the window shades...
25 JJeff: ...but Forbes is lacking. Totally populist and sensational, at least by financial periodical standards.
26 ZKNBX: From memory, BA WERE planning on buying control of US Airways (late 1980s / early 1990s), that is until things got complicated, and they backed out o
27 Gregarious119: So all things rediculous aside, how would a BA/US merger affect these routes: PHL-LHR JFK-LHR CLT-LHR Would we see increased frequencies/fleet upgrade
28 Bennett123: DELTAGUY767 You never know, it could happen
29 Bobnwa: The same way it would affect BOS-DCA CLT-MCO LHR-FCO
30 DAL767400ER: Did the person you get this rumor from just climb out from a weird-looking DeLorean when he told you that? Hey, don't ignore the West Coast, PHX-SFO a
32 Aviator27: After the mid-term elections, Bush is going to put forth rules to relax foreign ownership of airlines. This was suppose to have been done before as pa
33 MasseyBrown: My wife worked with a French scientist on temp. assignment in the US. Hearing that my wife was going to get her car washed, the visitor said, "Zut, w
35 Gregarious119: Maybe I mis-asked my question. I was specifically asking about Trans-atlantic routes that BA or US would be picking up/adding/dropping, etc since the
36 B737700doctor: That is true no outside airline can merge with any us airlines. US and BA in the 90's fly routes for each other BA bought stock in US before their hu
37 ReverseThrust: British Airways to provide "non surly" cabin service.
38 Yellowstone: Branson Buys Concorde From Smithsonian, Uses It To Start Virgin America Fleet
39 Helvknight: FR to fit free 99 channel AVOD in all aircraft.