Alaskaqantas From New Zealand, joined Dec 2005, 854 posts, RR: 5 Posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 8458 times:
g-day-
I just had the thread about how SQ checnged their slogan from "first to fly the A380 in 2006" to first to fly the A380."
I e-mailed SQ and here is the response: Mr Kyle Horne
30 August 2006
060804343/CR/MZ
Dear Mr Horne
Thank you for your email of 25 August 2006.
May I share with you that the first flight is scheduled to take place
at
the
end of 2006. Unfortunately, details of the first flights are in the
process
of
being finalised and I regret that, at this juncture, we are unable to
advise on
you on any firm dates. Please be assured that registered members of our
A380
website will receive updates once they are available.
Thank you for your interest in our A380 and we look forward to
welcoming
you on
board our flights, again soon
Yours sincerely
Millie Moy
Manager Customer Services
So apperently they are still flying at the end of the year... which is what I hope for!
just thought I'd let you all know what they had to say.
~Cheers-
~~Kyle H.
anyone think that it won't be tell 2007?
[Edited 2006-08-30 22:09:15]
to some people the sky is the limit, to aviation enthusiasts, its home!
Perhaps it would have been better to add this to last week's thread as it isn't that long yet and we wouldn't have to repeat ourselves? SQ A380 To Fly In 2007? (by Alaskaqantas Aug 24 2006 in Civil Aviation)
RedFlyer From United States, joined Feb 2005, 3603 posts, RR: 30 Reply 3, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 8306 times:
Quoting Leelaw (Reply 2): Perhaps it would have been better to add this to last week's thread as it isn't that long yet and we wouldn't have to repeat ourselves? SQ A380 To Fly In 2007? (by Alaskaqantas Aug 24 2006 in Civil Aviation)
Didn't someone in that thread say that SQ's plan all along was to make first rev flight in 2007? Hmmm...all this information floating about out there. What are we to believe?
Zvezda From Lithuania, joined Aug 2004, 10193 posts, RR: 71 Reply 4, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 8214 times:
The essence of the email from SQ is: the flight is scheduled for 2006 but hasn't been scheduled yet. That sounds more like a hope than a schedule. I have no doubt that SQ hope to start flying the WhaleJet to SYD in 2006. I have a lot of doubt that they will do so.
Khobar From United States, joined Mar 2006, 2379 posts, RR: 4 Reply 5, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 8158 times:
Quoting Alaskaqantas (Thread starter): So apperently they are still flying at the end of the year... which is what I hope for!
just thought I'd let you all know what they had to say.
Where does it say that they WILL be flying in 2006? The email says it is scheduled, but that doesn't mean much.
Swissy From Switzerland, joined Jan 2005, 1401 posts, RR: 10 Reply 9, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 7527 times:
Quoting Asturias (Reply 8): Good news! I'm positive that the A380 will fly its first revenue flight for SQ in 2006. December 2006. I'm looking forward!
Never say never or does that just apply to B and not A
Joni From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 10, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 7297 times:
Quoting RJ111 (Reply 1): Funny how these positive A380 threads pass by without notice.
I don't think it's funny.
This particular case, however, may just reflect that there are people in SQ corporate communications, who follow communications guideliles that (still?) state the first flight is scheduled to happen in 2006.
A520 From Switzerland, joined Jun 2006, 94 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 7253 times:
Does any one know the remaining tests to be done (and possibly a callendar for them) until certification? I seemed to remember that 1'500 fligth hours were schedulled. They are now at 1'800. So it should be close.
Leelaw From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 12, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 7199 times:
Quoting A520 (Reply 11): I seemed to remember that 1'500 fligth hours were schedulled.
IIRC, the original estimate was a total of 2500 hours. Given the program has already completed 1800 hours of flight-test, and the EA powered derivative has just started flying, perhaps the original estimate will now be exceeded by a significant margin?
Quoting A520 (Reply 11): Does any one know the remaining tests to be done (and possibly a callendar for them) until certification?
The early long flight (ELF) testing is scheduled to commence next week.
Manufacturer targets 4 September for start of 'early long flight' test programme...The ELF programme will be flown by the third A380 flight-test aircraft (MSN002), which is equipped with a fully furnished, 474-seat three-class test cabin. This aircraft was recently used to complete the external noise trials in Tarbes, France. A second cabin-equipped A380 (MSN007) will undertake the 300h of route-proving required for type certification towards the end of the year, in conjunction with Lufthansa and Singapore Airlines...
Jasond From Australia, joined Jul 2009, 13 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 7167 times:
Quoting RedFlyer (Reply 3): The essence of the email from SQ is: the flight is scheduled for 2006 but hasn't been scheduled yet. That sounds more like a hope than a schedule.
And the person you communicated with has no control or influence over when it will fly!!! We are so close to the end of 2006 now I don't think it will fly before the end of this year, I hope it does, but I don't think so.
RedFlyer From United States, joined Feb 2005, 3603 posts, RR: 30 Reply 16, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 5250 times:
Quoting Jasond (Reply 13): Quoting RedFlyer (Reply 3):
The essence of the email from SQ is: the flight is scheduled for 2006 but hasn't been scheduled yet. That sounds more like a hope than a schedule.
And the person you communicated with has no control or influence over when it will fly!!! We are so close to the end of 2006 now I don't think it will fly before the end of this year, I hope it does, but I don't think so.
Just for the record, that was not me that you quoted but, rather, Zvezda, in the post below mine.
Dougloid From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 18, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 5108 times:
Quoting RJ111 (Reply 1): Funny how these positive A380 threads pass by without notice.
[Edited 2006-08-30 22:33:18]
Quoting N754PR (Reply 7): Quoting RJ111 (Reply 1):
Funny how these positive A380 threads pass by without notice.
RJ111.... POSITIVE and A380 in the same post is not possible here I'm sorry to say.
Oh I think people noticed. I noticed. It's a wonderful airplane.
I do not think any amount of positive thinking will change much of anything though. It certainly hasn't moved up the schedule or added anything to the order book, has it?
Atnight From Ecuador, joined Dec 2005, 520 posts, RR: 1 Reply 19, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 5031 times:
Well, I for one do hope the A380 starts flying before year's end... I really think they'll do it.
Unless a major incident is to happen with one of the aircrafts, I don't see why Airbus couldn't get the certification on time.
Over and over again, as each test or phase is done, Airbus says the aircraft has performed better than or as expected.... So, if anything delays SQ's delivery, I could only consider a problem with cabing fitting than anything else... maybe the layout and features that SQ wants in thier A380s caused some tweaking problems, and the only reason why SQ decided to modify the "first to fly in 2006" is just in case some other issue with the cabin fitting appears and are forced to wait a little longer to "unvail" their new FLAGSHIP.... because remember people, what SQ shows inside the A380 will make the biggest impression on the market.... ALWAYS the FIRST impression is what counts, and I'm sure that SQ is not just going to put new great seats, but lots of other features, things NOT yet put in any comercial aircraft, that way they trully become a FIRST in every sense of the word... that's why it takes them 6 months to install the first cabin layout.. that's a long time...
I can't wait to see what SQ has kept secret all along and I bet SQ will fly the A380, their new Flagship, before year's end...
JAAlbert From United States, joined Jan 2006, 588 posts, RR: 1 Reply 20, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 4353 times:
Quoting RJ111 (Reply 1): Funny how these positive A380 threads pass by without notice
Puhlease! I live in the bad ole USA and I saw the thread first thing and it was the first thread I opened just to read all about the exciting news. And to top it all off . . . I didn't even plan a nasty comment about Airbus or the 380 (or the 350)!! I think a prescription for chill pills are in order for some on this board!
P.S.: I think SQ should invite me on that first flight to ensure I don't ignore the plane to any degree.
787engineer From United States, joined Dec 2005, 572 posts, RR: 16 Reply 22, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 3926 times:
Quoting Atnight (Reply 19): Well, I for one do hope the A380 starts flying before year's end... I really think they'll do it.
Unless a major incident is to happen with one of the aircrafts, I don't see why Airbus couldn't get the certification on time.
I'd have to disagree. SQ may get their first A380 by the end of the year, but it will take awhile between the time they get the plane to the time they actually use it in revenue service. That's probably why SQ has changed the "first to fly the A380 in 2006". I'm sure they'll fly their new A380s around, but I don't think it will be carrying paying passengers until January, February, or March. I think others on this board know more about what the airline puts the plane through after they it's delivered. You can refer to the following thread for more info:
Quoting RJ111 (Reply 1): Funny how these positive A380 threads pass by without notice.
As Leelaw said this has already been discussed in the thread above, maybe everyone who wanted to say something has had their say? Why does everything has to turn into a "everyone's against Airbus" complaint?
Jfr From United States, joined Feb 2005, 193 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 3776 times:
SQ has a habit of introducing their new aircraft by first running some short-haul revenue (+training) flights to selected nearby cities, like KUL, JKT and sometimes others.
It gives them a chance to introduce their "first flight" crews to the plane before the high profile inaugural flights to SYD and LHR.
It also lets them introduce the plane to some of their important customers in these key cities.
Look for some a/c type swapouts on the SIN-KUL and SIN-JKT routes before year's end.
Zeke From Hong Kong SAR, PRC, joined Dec 2006, 4839 posts, RR: 66 Reply 25, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1711 times:
Quoting Jfr (Reply 24): SQ has a habit of introducing their new aircraft by first running some short-haul revenue (+training) flights to selected nearby cities, like KUL, JKT and sometimes others.
Flying into CGK rather than JKT would be far less maintenance intensive, and better for the schedule.
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26 Zvezda: Pointing out that the WhaleJet enjoys a dismally small market does not make one "against Airbus" any more than pointing out that the Concorde had a v
27 KLMCedric: Glideslope, you really have nothing else to contribute to this forum then endless streams of stupid childish one-liners??? You sound so dumb and 10ye
28 Afterburner: Seeing SQ's A380 in CGK will be a very interesting thing, except it won't be happen in the near future because I don't think CGK is ready for A380. B
29 Astuteman: The "limits" of the A380's sales potential have yet to be proven. If "very" is an appelation that you want to apply to the 11 or so Concorde's that e
30 KLMCedric: Well you think wrong, because IMO a large quantity of Anetters still sees a rather large and promising market for future A380 sales. I am one of them
31 Zvezda: I never wrote that I expected all the WhaleJet orders to be cancelled, only some of them. I think that's dubious. The A350-1000, B747-8, and B787-10
32 KLMCedric: Many enthusiast are not simply believing want they want to believe, but just like you, but obviously in the opposite direction , feel they have a str
33 Singapore_Air: I always get confused by this. Wouldn't a prestigious and highly regarded airline flying SINLHR with an A380 make more sense than two A350 XWB 1000 o
34 WINGS: If Airbus is to introduce the A389 or even the A388 with the A350XWB engines, and further improvements, it will easily blow away all of it's competit
35 Dougloid: Woody Guthrie once said that prosperity was just around the corner of a round building. Airbus has recently revised the published basic operating wei
36 Zvezda: Of course I admit that the B747-400 has a lower CASM than the B747-100. I also admit that a hypothetical A380-900 would have a lower CASM than the -8
37 OldAeroGuy: Isn't this the primary problem for the A380? It hasn't even sold, much less delivered, enough airplanes to break even. Yet to maintain operating cost
38 Leelaw: Additionally, the time and resources necessary to sort out the "wiring harness" imbroglio/botched industrial ramp-up would have otherwise been direct
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