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BA To Get Some Former UA 744s Rumour?  
User currently offlineThowman From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 363 posts, RR: 3
Posted (8 years 1 month 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 11658 times:

A rumour that I have seen on another website that is apparently doing the rounds at the moment is that BA are so short of long-haul equipment, that they are considering getting 4 of the former UA 744s to fill the gap between now and the introduction of the next batch of 777s in 2008.

It could be pure gossip, but who knows

A

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User currently offlineB742 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 3768 posts, RR: 19
Reply 1, posted (8 years 1 month 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 11655 times:

I would love this to happen, even if it is just rumours  Smile

May I ask what website you got this info from?

It would make sense so that BA can open up some new routes/frequencies.

It would mean adding PW powered aircraft to the longhaul fleet, of which is currently GE and RR!

What expansion projects would BA need these proposed aircraft for, even if they are just rumours?

Rob!  wave 


User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20685 posts, RR: 62
Reply 2, posted (8 years 1 month 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 11655 times:

It's amazing how many rumors appear on the board where the members like to call this one "kiddiesyappingaboutairplanes.com", or some variation.  Wink


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User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 60
Reply 3, posted (8 years 1 month 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 11597 times:

Quoting Thowman (Thread starter):
A rumour that I have seen on another website that is apparently doing the rounds at the moment is that BA are so short of long-haul equipment, that they are considering getting 4 of the former UA 744s to fill the gap between now and the introduction of the next batch of 777s in 2008.

It could be pure gossip, but who knows

Given that UA's 744's are P&W and BA only use RR's for their 744's, I highly doubt they will add a sub-engine fleet just for four planes...



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User currently offlineThowman From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 363 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (8 years 1 month 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 11597 times:

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 2):
It's amazing how many rumors appear on the board where the members like to call this one "kiddiesyappingaboutairplanes.com", or some variation.

This is the reason I posted this - to see what yapping it would cause.  

Certainly an interesting rumour though.

By the way the source can be seen here on ivegotgoldstatussoyoudbetterkissmyass.com

[Edited 2006-08-31 18:24:21]

User currently offlineGeo772 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 519 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 1 month 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 11429 times:

It would be a very curious move by BA to do this. The aircraft would be very difficult to integrate into the rest of the fleet, unless they were put on dedicated services - which introduces its own set of problems.


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User currently offlineCornish From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 8187 posts, RR: 54
Reply 6, posted (8 years 1 month 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 11409 times:

Well glad to see that other sites have some rumours as ridiculous as some of the ones on here  Yeah sure

mmm a subfleet of four 744s with no commonality wit the rest of the fleet. Can't see it somehow.



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User currently offlineBennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7637 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (8 years 1 month 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 11358 times:

http://www.speednews.com/listings/jetindex.html

There is an SAA aircraft available with RB211.


User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20685 posts, RR: 62
Reply 8, posted (8 years 1 month 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 11287 times:

Quoting Thowman (Reply 4):
ivegotgoldstatussoyoudbetterkissmyass.com

 rotfl 



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User currently offlineBA787 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 2596 posts, RR: 7
Reply 9, posted (8 years 1 month 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 11262 times:

I'd be very suprised as well. That said though. there aren't many RR 744's out there, so maybe they have to!

Tom


User currently offlineRoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9661 posts, RR: 52
Reply 10, posted (8 years 1 month 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 11232 times:

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 2):
It's amazing how many rumors appear on the board where the members like to call this one "kiddiesyappingaboutairplanes.com", or some variation.

Well what else will we talk about? Yes most rumors don't come true, but some do. And sometimes there are shockers like United annoucing service to Kuwait. I have no problem with rumors being posted as long as it points out that they are a rumor.



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User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20685 posts, RR: 62
Reply 11, posted (8 years 1 month 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 11184 times:

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 10):
Well what else will we talk about?

I was pointing out the irony in a rumor being bounced around on the same board that has so much disdain for this board. Sorry you missed that.



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User currently offlineZvezda From Lithuania, joined Aug 2004, 10511 posts, RR: 64
Reply 12, posted (8 years 1 month 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 11184 times:

A two to three year lease with maintenance outsourced would make sense if the price were right.

User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31062 posts, RR: 87
Reply 13, posted (8 years 1 month 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 11167 times:
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I suppose BA could rip the PWs off and install RB211s while they're gutting the UA interior and installing new interiors and repainting...

User currently offlineJfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8390 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (8 years 1 month 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 11119 times:
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Interesting if it did happen. 4 P&W 744 in BA colors; stranger things have happened.

User currently offlineGBOAC From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 221 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (8 years 1 month 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 11119 times:

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 11):
I was pointing out the irony in a rumor being bounced around on the same board that has so much disdain for this board. Sorry you missed that.

Tiny difference being the rumour originated from 'galley gossip' not just plain idle speculation plucked from the sky  Wink It seemed slightly more informed than that and therefore worth discussing...although still unlikely (for various reasons mentioned), hence the clear opening caveat.

Quoting Thowman (Reply 4):
ivegotgoldstatussoyoudbetterkissmyass.com

Tsk. Bowing will do just fine, there's no need to go that far except on special occasions, you know Big grin  Wink


User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20685 posts, RR: 62
Reply 16, posted (8 years 1 month 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 11009 times:

Quoting GBOAC (Reply 15):
'galley gossip'

Oh, my very very bad then.  Wink

Quoting GBOAC (Reply 15):
Bowing will do just fine

Just make sure you don't encourage *this* kind of bowing.  butthead  You know how things are so easily misconstrued on the internet!



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User currently offlineGBOAC From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 221 posts, RR: 5
Reply 17, posted (8 years 1 month 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 10975 times:

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 16):
You know how things are so easily misconstrued on the internet!

No, I don't. Please do explain...


User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20685 posts, RR: 62
Reply 18, posted (8 years 1 month 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 10949 times:

Quoting GBOAC (Reply 17):
No, I don't. Please do explain...

LOLOL, touche.



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User currently offlineKanebear From United States of America, joined May 2002, 953 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (8 years 1 month 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 10933 times:

Quoting Thowman (Reply 4):
By the way the source can be seen here on ivegotgoldstatussoyoudbetterkissmyass.com

Uhm, no, that's ivegotplatinum-executiveplatinum-premier-1K-UGS-chairmanspreferredmedallionstatussoyoudbetterwashmyfeetlickmybootsANDkissmyass.com


User currently offlineAADC10 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2092 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (8 years 1 month 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 10861 times:

Even if BA does not use P&W 744s they might lease them until they take delivery of new 777s. They could farm out maintenance and only use them between desitnations that can service P&W engines. It would be more expensive, but temporary.

User currently offlineWrighbrothers From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 1875 posts, RR: 9
Reply 21, posted (8 years 1 month 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 10778 times:

BA made the mistake of getting a whole load of odd ball 742's from BCAL when they merged, it was a bit of a disaster, and while the UA 744's probably wouldn't be as bad a problem as the ex BCAL aircrafts, it would still be a bad decision.
So I would be highly surprised if BA were to do that for such a small fleet.

Wrighbrothers



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User currently offlineMauriceB From Netherlands, joined Aug 2004, 2490 posts, RR: 25
Reply 22, posted (8 years 1 month 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 10627 times:

Didn't know that BA had some 777's on order... How many and wich engines?

User currently offlineBrendows From Norway, joined Apr 2006, 1020 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (8 years 1 month 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 10500 times:

Quoting MauriceB (Reply 22):
Didn't know that BA had some 777's on order... How many and wich engines?

They have reserved slots for ten 777s for 2008 and 2009 IIRC, a rumour that first appeared on pprune.


User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8677 posts, RR: 16
Reply 24, posted (8 years 1 month 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 10234 times:

I wouldn't be surprised. BA needs long haul a/c and these could provide a temporary sub fleet and boost in capacity until the new a/c come online.

MCOflyer



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25 Dakota123 : Could they be operated and maintained by UA on behalf of BA (in BA colors and configuration) under some type of plane and crew lease arrangement? Dako
26 Stitch : If BA wished to wet-lease them, and UA was willing, I do not see why not. But I am not sure UA wants to (or can afford to, in terms of scheduling) ge
27 EBJ1248650 : While this is probably technically feasible, would it be cost effective over the long run?
28 Thowman : Are the parked 744s the property of UA? I thought they were returned to the leasing company and the leases cancelled? The only other option for BA mig
29 MCOflyer : I believe they belong to SS. MCOflyer
30 Post contains links SFORunner : Some formerly parked UA 744s are now in posession of SS, and others. According to Airfleets.net: http://www.airfleets.net/flottecie/United%20Airlines
31 Monkeyboi : Not heard anything within BA about this rumour. I know the most pressing issue at the moment is a shortage of 777 pilots. So much so that the launch d
32 Geo772 : It could do, there is not much slack in the operation as it is without the strain of having aircraft down for long periods of time for their refits.
33 Imiakhtar : slightly off topic but why does BA have a 777 fleet with both GE and RR engines?
34 Tod : " target=_blank>http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinqu...192UA N172UA is going to Eagle Aviation. So is N176UA and N190UA. N183UA, N184UA, N186UA, N188U
35 Dakota123 : So what IS the deal with poor 185? Anybody know? Certainly curious. Dakota123
36 Post contains links and images Tod : It belongs to Wilmington Trust Co and the last I heard it was still in VCV. View Large View MediumPhoto © Sven De Bevere Tod
37 GDB : Not heard a whisper of this within Engineering. It seems very unlikely in any case, there is no requirement for further 747's.
38 Jfk777 : I raelly doubt this will happen.
39 AirbusA6 : I would have thought that BA had more than enough 747, and that it's problem was lack of 777s, for the thinner long haul routes. With the likes of SQ
40 Bennett123 : What about PP-VRC and PP-VRD, (VARIG).
41 Geo772 : I have thought of that myself, given that they would only need a cabin refit. The only issue is that they are A market aircraft which are less suitab
43 AirbusA6 : Is that a shortage of long haul pilots full stop, and just those qualified on the 777? If the latter, do they have 747 pilots 'sitting around' who can
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