Thowman From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 359 posts, RR: 3 Posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 9923 times:
A rumour that I have seen on another website that is apparently doing the rounds at the moment is that BA are so short of long-haul equipment, that they are considering getting 4 of the former UA 744s to fill the gap between now and the introduction of the next batch of 777s in 2008.
AeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 18823 posts, RR: 64 Reply 2, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 9920 times:
It's amazing how many rumors appear on the board where the members like to call this one "kiddiesyappingaboutairplanes.com", or some variation.
Jacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 61 Reply 3, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 9862 times:
Quoting Thowman (Thread starter): A rumour that I have seen on another website that is apparently doing the rounds at the moment is that BA are so short of long-haul equipment, that they are considering getting 4 of the former UA 744s to fill the gap between now and the introduction of the next batch of 777s in 2008.
It could be pure gossip, but who knows
Given that UA's 744's are P&W and BA only use RR's for their 744's, I highly doubt they will add a sub-engine fleet just for four planes...
Thowman From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 359 posts, RR: 3 Reply 4, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 9862 times:
Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 2): It's amazing how many rumors appear on the board where the members like to call this one "kiddiesyappingaboutairplanes.com", or some variation.
This is the reason I posted this - to see what yapping it would cause.
Geo772 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 497 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 9694 times:
It would be a very curious move by BA to do this. The aircraft would be very difficult to integrate into the rest of the fleet, unless they were put on dedicated services - which introduces its own set of problems.
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AeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 18823 posts, RR: 64 Reply 8, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 9552 times:
RoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 8737 posts, RR: 52 Reply 10, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 9497 times:
Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 2): It's amazing how many rumors appear on the board where the members like to call this one "kiddiesyappingaboutairplanes.com", or some variation.
Well what else will we talk about? Yes most rumors don't come true, but some do. And sometimes there are shockers like United annoucing service to Kuwait. I have no problem with rumors being posted as long as it points out that they are a rumor.
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AeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 18823 posts, RR: 64 Reply 11, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 9449 times:
Stitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 26686 posts, RR: 83 Reply 13, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 9432 times:
I suppose BA could rip the PWs off and install RB211s while they're gutting the UA interior and installing new interiors and repainting...
Jfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 7342 posts, RR: 7 Reply 14, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 9384 times:
Interesting if it did happen. 4 P&W 744 in BA colors; stranger things have happened.
GBOAC From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 221 posts, RR: 7 Reply 15, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 9384 times:
Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 11): I was pointing out the irony in a rumor being bounced around on the same board that has so much disdain for this board. Sorry you missed that.
Tiny difference being the rumour originated from 'galley gossip' not just plain idle speculation plucked from the sky It seemed slightly more informed than that and therefore worth discussing...although still unlikely (for various reasons mentioned), hence the clear opening caveat.
AeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 18823 posts, RR: 64 Reply 16, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 9274 times:
AeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 18823 posts, RR: 64 Reply 18, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 9214 times:
Quoting GBOAC (Reply 17): No, I don't. Please do explain...
Kanebear From United States of America, joined May 2002, 953 posts, RR: 2 Reply 19, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 9198 times:
Quoting Thowman (Reply 4): By the way the source can be seen here on ivegotgoldstatussoyoudbetterkissmyass.com
Uhm, no, that's ivegotplatinum-executiveplatinum-premier-1K-UGS-chairmanspreferredmedallionstatussoyoudbetterwashmyfeetlickmybootsANDkissmyass.com
AADC10 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 1831 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 9126 times:
Even if BA does not use P&W 744s they might lease them until they take delivery of new 777s. They could farm out maintenance and only use them between desitnations that can service P&W engines. It would be more expensive, but temporary.
Wrighbrothers From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 1875 posts, RR: 10 Reply 21, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 9043 times:
BA made the mistake of getting a whole load of odd ball 742's from BCAL when they merged, it was a bit of a disaster, and while the UA 744's probably wouldn't be as bad a problem as the ex BCAL aircrafts, it would still be a bad decision.
So I would be highly surprised if BA were to do that for such a small fleet.
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MCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8552 posts, RR: 14 Reply 24, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 8499 times:
I wouldn't be surprised. BA needs long haul a/c and these could provide a temporary sub fleet and boost in capacity until the new a/c come online.
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25 Dakota123: Could they be operated and maintained by UA on behalf of BA (in BA colors and configuration) under some type of plane and crew lease arrangement? Dako
26 Stitch: If BA wished to wet-lease them, and UA was willing, I do not see why not. But I am not sure UA wants to (or can afford to, in terms of scheduling) ge
27 EBJ1248650: While this is probably technically feasible, would it be cost effective over the long run?
28 Thowman: Are the parked 744s the property of UA? I thought they were returned to the leasing company and the leases cancelled? The only other option for BA mig
29 MCOflyer: I believe they belong to SS. MCOflyer
30 SFORunner: Some formerly parked UA 744s are now in posession of SS, and others. According to Airfleets.net: http://www.airfleets.net/flottecie/United%20Airlines
31 Monkeyboi: Not heard anything within BA about this rumour. I know the most pressing issue at the moment is a shortage of 777 pilots. So much so that the launch d
32 Geo772: It could do, there is not much slack in the operation as it is without the strain of having aircraft down for long periods of time for their refits.
33 Imiakhtar: slightly off topic but why does BA have a 777 fleet with both GE and RR engines?
34 Tod: " target=_blank>http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinqu...192UA N172UA is going to Eagle Aviation. So is N176UA and N190UA. N183UA, N184UA, N186UA, N188U
35 Dakota123: So what IS the deal with poor 185? Anybody know? Certainly curious. Dakota123
39 AirbusA6: I would have thought that BA had more than enough 747, and that it's problem was lack of 777s, for the thinner long haul routes. With the likes of SQ
40 Bennett123: What about PP-VRC and PP-VRD, (VARIG).
41 Geo772: I have thought of that myself, given that they would only need a cabin refit. The only issue is that they are A market aircraft which are less suitab
43 AirbusA6: Is that a shortage of long haul pilots full stop, and just those qualified on the 777? If the latter, do they have 747 pilots 'sitting around' who can