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Allegiant, PIE A Go?  
User currently offlineFlyinryan99 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 2000 posts, RR: 12
Posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3650 times:

Found this today while surfing their job site.

http://www.allegiantair.com/jobs/job_fair.htm

It's for the 9th of September, would assume an announcement this week?

Ryan

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User currently offlineTPAnx From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 1021 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3628 times:

Interesting. Allegiant does not serve PIE at present, and to the best of my
knowledge, does not have a crew base or training facility in the area.
PIE is in need of more carriers. Sun Country will provide some fdlights to the Twin Cities. USA3000 hits some major cities up north. Canjet and Sunwing provide some Canadian service, Seacoast flies low and slow to the Keys, and
Conquest vacations (?) also has a presence. But a recent survey by the airport shows the top requested destination by people in the area is Las Vegas. Delta used to provide non-stop service from TPA, but I don't know if anyone does at this point. So Allegiant may have found a need to fill. Whether running a couple of flights a day, if it came to that, would require a crew base at PIE is questionable in my mind. Maybe Allegiant is considering more destinations which would require more people. Or maybe they're looking for some hot Florida women!
TPAnx  Cool



I read the news today..oh boy
User currently offlineMarkabcan From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 205 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3587 times:

At a salary of $18,000 might be hard to find people, that seems ridiculously low!

User currently offlineOuboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4555 posts, RR: 21
Reply 3, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 3494 times:

Yet another piece to the puzzle on their new PIE operation.

Wonder if they are going to try this with the MD-87s running a couple weekly flights to RFD, TOL, ABE, etc.



Any opinion/comment posted is that of my own and not that of Southwest Airlines Co.
User currently offlineFATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5790 posts, RR: 15
Reply 4, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 3494 times:

Quoting TPAnx (Reply 1):
So Allegiant may have found a need to fill.

Overlay the existing PIE cities in the east and midwest with Allegiant's current route map. You'll see a few opportunity routes.

http://www.allegiantair.com/aaRouteMap.php
http://www.fly2pie.com/images/route_map_LG.jpg



"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness." - Mark Twain
User currently offlineCIDflyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 2271 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 3451 times:

very interesting indeed! I am anxiously awaiting the announcement and which cities will be served on G4 from PIE

User currently offlineBillReid From Netherlands, joined Jun 2006, 981 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3377 times:

Yes word is on the street that Allegiant will establish a base there.

They will probably kill the USA3000 service which is weakening under fuel pressure.

Also this will be the first time that they take on Southwest.
WN killed ATA and will Allegiant be next? Pie is not a smart move in the present fuel environment.

Q. Whats the quickest way to be come a millionair?
A. Be a Billionair and fly your airline to PIE.



Some people don't get it. Business is about making MONEY!
User currently offlineTPAnx From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 1021 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3368 times:

FWIW, I just checked the flight planner at the TPA website..handy tool..and
HP, US and SW all offer non-stop service to Vegas.
TPAnx



I read the news today..oh boy
User currently offlineN908AW From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 922 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3359 times:

Quoting BillReid (Reply 6):

Also this will be the first time that they take on Southwest.

OKC?
South Texas?

Quoting TPAnx (Reply 7):
FWIW, I just checked the flight planner at the TPA website..handy tool..and
HP, US and SW all offer non-stop service to Vegas.
TPAnx

Umm...G4 isn't about to fly PIE-LAS.



'Cause you're on ATA again, and on ATA, you're on vacation!
User currently offlineFATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5790 posts, RR: 15
Reply 9, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3336 times:

Quoting TPAnx (Reply 7):
HP, US and SW all offer non-stop service to Vegas.



Quoting N908AW (Reply 8):
Umm...G4 isn't about to fly PIE-LAS.

Exactly. Too many people only think about Allegiant and LAS.

Instead look for PIE flights from some of Allegiant's larger stations on the east coast and in the midwest.

Also remember this won't be just about flights. Allegiant Air is actually part of Allegiant Travel. Look for them to offer vacation packages.



"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness." - Mark Twain
User currently offlineOuboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4555 posts, RR: 21
Reply 10, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3333 times:

Quoting TPAnx (Reply 7):
FWIW, I just checked the flight planner at the TPA website..handy tool..and
HP, US and SW all offer non-stop service to Vegas.

Try PIE-RFD, TOL, ABE, SWF, etc.



Any opinion/comment posted is that of my own and not that of Southwest Airlines Co.
User currently offlineCIDflyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 2271 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3276 times:

Quoting BillReid (Reply 6):
Also this will be the first time that they take on Southwest.
WN killed ATA and will Allegiant be next? Pie is not a smart move in the present fuel environment.

G4 doesn't really compete with SWA on any of their routes. They focus on mainly connecting small to mid sized underserved markets that the major LCC's ignore to top leisure destinations and they have done well at this IMHO. I think PIE should work out well for them.


User currently offlineFATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5790 posts, RR: 15
Reply 12, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3228 times:

Quoting Ouboy79 (Reply 10):
Try PIE-RFD, TOL, ABE, SWF, etc.

Then check the same cites to TPA.



"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness." - Mark Twain
User currently offlinePennPal From United States of America, joined May 2004, 170 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3215 times:

Quoting FATFlyer (Reply 12):
Then check the same cites to TPA.

True...but anyone arriving from the south or west will find PIE easier to get to, less congested, and cheaper to park. I'd pick PIE over TPA any day.

[Edited 2006-09-04 06:52:40]

User currently offlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4917 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 3181 times:

Quoting BillReid (Reply 6):
They will probably kill the USA3000 service which is weakening under fuel pressure.

Is G4 likely to have much of an impact on these services. Wouldn't they be considered complimentary to any G4 would offer? Although I appreciate the fact fuel prices are a big issue at the moment and that alone could affect the future of USA 3000 at PIE (and I guess also other Florida airports where fligts are not operated for principally for tour operators)

Quoting BillReid (Reply 6):
Also this will be the first time that they take on Southwest.
WN killed ATA and will Allegiant be next? Pie is not a smart move in the present fuel environment.

They wont be taking on Southwest any more than they do at SFB. Take SFB-RFD. That could be considered in competition with WN's MDW-MCO. I dont see how PIE-RFD (If G4 fly this route) would be in any more competition with WN than SFB-RFD (this could be applied other destinations as well like ABE)



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User currently offlineBobnwa From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 6439 posts, RR: 9
Reply 15, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3146 times:

Quoting BillReid (Reply 6):
Yes word is on the street that Allegiant will establish a base there.

Which street is that near PIE?

Quoting BillReid (Reply 6):
Pie is not a smart move in the present fuel environment.

What does the price of fuel have to do with TPA vs PIE?


User currently offlineN908AW From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 922 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3140 times:

Quoting Bobnwa (Reply 15):
What does the price of fuel have to do with TPA vs PIE?

Well it could be pitched to the passengers that PIE is closer to the beach...less gas...you don't have to cross the lonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnng bridge.



'Cause you're on ATA again, and on ATA, you're on vacation!
User currently offlineDTWAGENT From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1283 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 3097 times:

I can see them heading into PIE. Alot of people including some of my clients do not like landing at TPA. Due to problems with getting cars, baggage and other things... I can also see Alligant starting TOL, LAN services to PIE. I think it would be a great move on their part.

Chuck


User currently offlineFATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5790 posts, RR: 15
Reply 18, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 3088 times:

Quoting FATFlyer (Reply 12):
Then check the same cites to TPA.



Quoting PennPal (Reply 13):
True...but anyone arriving from the south or west will find PIE easier to get to, less congested, and cheaper to park. I'd pick PIE over TPA any day.

My point was if you check them many of the Allegiant cities have no TPA flights. So no competition.



"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness." - Mark Twain
User currently offlineTPAnx From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 1021 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3031 times:

Quoting DTWAGENT (Reply 17):
problems with getting cars, baggage and other things...

Perhaps my home airport bias is showing,,but TPA is one of the easiest airports to get around. Never had to wait 45 minutes for luggage..as I have at
BDL. Rental cars are across the street from baggage claim..don't know what
"other things" you refer. TPA is usually ranked among the best airports in the country...
TPAnx



I read the news today..oh boy
User currently offlineN908AW From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 922 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2981 times:

Quoting TPAnx (Reply 19):
Perhaps my home airport bias is showing,,but TPA is one of the easiest airports to get around. Never had to wait 45 minutes for luggage..as I have at
BDL. Rental cars are across the street from baggage claim..don't know what
"other things" you refer. TPA is usually ranked among the best airports in the country...

Just that at PIE G4 would be close to the only scheduled service. Tons and tons of advantages there.



'Cause you're on ATA again, and on ATA, you're on vacation!
User currently offlineMkirch72 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 198 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2962 times:

Quoting BillReid (Reply 6):
WN killed ATA and will Allegiant be next? Pie is not a smart move in the present fuel environment

ATA pulled out of PIE as part of the cash injection they received from WN. It wasn't competition that killed them. It was WN saying, if you want my money, get out of PIE. Several ATA pilots have commented on this website about the success of their PIE operation - hence the reason WN wanted them out.

Also - don't forget the 925,000 residents of Pinellas County who would use PIE if there were more destinations. There is nothing wrong with TPA. I think it's a great airport, for it's size. However, some people like to be able to park, walk a couple hundred feet, check in, walk about 50 more feet, go through security, walk another 10 feet and be in the gate area.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, if PIE, in conjunction with the airlines that serve it, could do a better job marketing itself in the Tampa Bay area, they would be more successful. Other than a handful of USA3000 billboards, there is ZERO marketing done in Pinellas County, let alone the Tampa Bay area. The handful of people that know about it, use it. I have a lot of Puerto Rican friends that live in Tampa and Brandon who said they miss the TPA/SJU service PIE used to have (I think it was ATA). PIE administration needs to get their hands on some cash to market themselves.

Also - I know G4's current equipment can't make it all the way to LAS. What is the story on the IPO and possible new equipment that would have the legs for the PIE-LAS route?


User currently offlineMkirch72 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 198 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2959 times:

....Also -- does anyone know how YNG is working out for G4, and could that end up being a possible route - YNG-PIE? Anyone who lives in Pinellas County can vouche for the number of Ohio license plates on the roads around here.

User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6380 posts, RR: 17
Reply 23, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2938 times:

Quoting Mkirch72 (Reply 21):
However, some people like to be able to park, walk a couple hundred feet, check in, walk about 50 more feet, go through security, walk another 10 feet and be in the gate area.

UMMM....Iknow you were describing PIE, but kind of sounds like TPA also.  cool 



Listen Betty, don't start up with your 'White Zone' s*** again.
User currently offlineFlyinryan99 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 2000 posts, RR: 12
Reply 24, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2897 times:

Quoting Mkirch72 (Reply 22):
....Also -- does anyone know how YNG is working out for G4, and could that end up being a possible route - YNG-PIE? Anyone who lives in Pinellas County can vouche for the number of Ohio license plates on the roads around here.

From a friend of mine who's not on a.net:

" Youngstown has been a solid route for Allegiant with loads averaging in the upper 80s around 87% since it began service in May. You must remember that is just 2 flights a week. A source close with YNG has told me they are not likely to be on the initial list of cities to PIE; but hope to get YNG-PIE by early next year. YNG is supporting Allegiant very nicely and is competing with Airtran out of CAK-PIT and Southwest out of CLE-PIT just as well with fares most of the time cheaper than those routes. The YNG supporters got a blog: www.yngair.wordpress.com which covers the airport; there you can get the official passenger numbers and any insight on YNG and possible new service. Trust me many Ohioans second home is in Florida, don't forget about TOL you know! They will be on the first list of cities at least!"


25 Post contains images TVNWZ : I travel a lot. A lot. TPA is the easiest airport to get in and out of that I fly to excluding the small MCIs of the world. I have flown out of PIE i
26 COERJ : Except that they forgot the "Take the monorail from parking to landside terminal, go up 2 escelators, wait for the train, board the train, go to secu
27 TVNWZ : Whatevery you do. Do not take the baby-monorail. Slow, worthless piece of crap.
28 AirWillie6475 : That salary is laughable unless there is a significant jump the second year. The national average salary for HS graduates is 30K, come on people, bein
29 Flyinryan99 : Where is that at? I was out of college and didn't make over $20k. $18k might not be a lot, but at least they'll be home every night.
30 TVNWZ : Where is that number coming from?
31 PieTpaFlSun : Next Wednesday 9/13/06 at 1500 the MEGA announcement that we have been waiting for.
32 Tvnewsguy08 : Allegiant? Where? For What Cities? Will there be more than one? I have heard that TYS may be in the cards for Allegiant as early as mid-September. Co
33 Ouboy79 : Umm read the thread. It is the announcementof the new St Peterburg focus city.
34 G4resagent : Explain how it is laughable? Allegiant = $20/hr with 75 hrs guaranteed Continental = $18/hr with 83 hrs guaranteed AirTran = $18.80 - $20.65 with 70
35 Post contains links Mkirch72 : Looks like the press have got wind of this. The St. Petersburg Times printed an article on this story today that took up 3/4 of the Business Section's
36 Mkirch72 : Just an update - I'm on PIE's email list and I just received an invitation. Here is a summary: What: News Conference and reception announcing major ne
37 IADLHR : There is another thread gping about a new destination being announced for PIA on Wed. That is the same day that the above announcement will take place
38 Mkirch72 : I wouldn't be surprised. There are a lot of transplants from the midwest in Pinellas County and a lot of snowbirds come down here in the wintertime fr
39 Jeb94 : I expect RFD and PIA as two cities that G4 will serve out of PIE. PIE will be a small base so it is a big deal for an airline only operating two bases
40 Post contains links FATFlyer : Looks like SWF (Stewart) will be one of the cities announced Wednesday. Allegiant Air, the airline that has been flying the successful route between S
41 Post contains links and images Ouboy79 : The final piece of the puzzle leading up to tomorrows announcement. The job posting for PIE Station Manager. http://www.allegiantair.com/jobs/gen_mgr_
42 Jeb94 : RFD-PIE, PIA-PIE, ABE-PIE, and LAN-PIE for starters. That's official.
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