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DL 757 In "97" Scheme?  
User currently offlineKSUpilot From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 656 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 10126 times:

I was looking though from DL 757-200 shots and I was surprised to see this image of a 757 in the old "97" scheme. The photo is dated 7/8/2006, it's been six years since Delta brought in the new colors. Why the delay in repainting some of the 757s? Are they ever going to switch over to the new scheme? I personally like the "97" scheme on the -200, so it is nice to see some still with it.

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User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8902 posts, RR: 12
Reply 1, posted (8 years 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 10116 times:

I'd say the vast majority of planes are in the new livery. Now that the 737-200s are gone, I believe there are a handful of 757s and 767-300s that are still in the old colours, but it's gotta be less than 20 now.

Connection on the other hand...there are still quite a few CRJs running around in the 1997 livery.


User currently offlineAirTranTUS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 10092 times:

It appears they are doing that plane one piece at a time. Starting with the radome, then the R2 door, and finally the thrust reversers.

User currently offlineSLCUT2777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 4053 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (8 years 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 10058 times:

I actually flew on one between SLC-SEA three weeks ago. The interior had all leather seats, but the outside was still the 1997 livery. but then DL might just begin again on the livery next year. The sooner DL can exit bankruptcy and put the Leo Mullin era behind the better!


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User currently offlineN766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 8265 posts, RR: 23
Reply 4, posted (8 years 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 10058 times:

Quite a few 763s and a few 757s are still in the old colors, plus I'd say 1/4 of the CRJs I see (both comair and acey) still sport the blue cheatline.


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User currently offlineKSUpilot From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 656 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 9939 times:

Is there a chance of them changing yet again? Maybe something inbetween the new and the 97? I like the new one, but it lost that classic look that the 97 kept.

User currently offlineScottB From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 6762 posts, RR: 32
Reply 6, posted (8 years 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 9931 times:

Quoting KSUpilot (Thread starter):
it's been six years since Delta brought in the new colors. Why the delay in repainting some of the 757s?

Well, if memory serves, the last aircraft in the long-lived widget livery were only repainted in early 2004, so it's not terribly surprising that we'd still see some flying around in the Ron Allen colors. Plus, the Song aircraft would have taken priority for a while while they were being painted (partially) lime-green. I saw several aircraft in the 1997 scheme Thursday night while passing through ATL.


User currently offlineDL787932ER From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 597 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (8 years 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 9871 times:

Other than in merger situations, aircraft are usually repainted when they go in for heavy maintenance, which is around the time they'd need a paint job whether or not there was a livery change. It makes sense that there are still a few aircraft that got repainted at the very end of the Ron Allen livery and haven't come up for a repaint yet. Given limited financial resources, it makes a lot more sense to spend them on things that will improve the passenger experience (i.e. the new interiors and IFE) as opposed to a paint job that maybe 10% of passengers would notice for five minutes at the gate.

Quoting KSUpilot (Reply 5):
Is there a chance of them changing yet again? Maybe something inbetween the new and the 97? I like the new one, but it lost that classic look that the 97 kept.

Grinstein has stated his concern is improving the product and finances and exiting BK, not coming up with a new livery (part of the reason DL fired their last ad agency was that they pushed for yet another livery and DL was not interested). Deltaflot has grown on me (far, far superior to Ron Allen) but I'd like to see it changed - when the time is right. Around the end of the decade, after BK is behind them and 772LRs and 787s are coming in, I would like to see something that keeps more modern touches like the lighter blue shades and new font but also brings the widget back to prominence on the tail and nacelles.



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User currently offline1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6530 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (8 years 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 9803 times:

I know that in the past, many users did not like my idea of different colors for different aircraft. They stated that it is copying Braniff. However, I personally like the idea of multicolored aircraft:
  • MD-88 - Blue
  • MD-90 - Teal
  • 737-800 - Yellow
  • 757-200 - Orange
  • 767-300 - Green
  • 767-400ER - Pink
  • 777-200 - Red



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User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1881 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (8 years 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 9803 times:
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What is funny is that all of the 75's in the old livery have the new interior. I guess it is a way of saying past meets future.


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User currently offlineKSUpilot From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 656 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 9762 times:

Quoting DL787932ER (Reply 7):
I would like to see something that keeps more modern touches like the lighter blue shades and new font but also brings the widget back to prominence on the tail and nacelles.

I agree, the only thing that bothers me on the new livery is the tail. I like the banner background but it needs the widget. The 97 tail wasn't too good either.


User currently offlineBcbhokie From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 119 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 9698 times:

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 8):
I know that in the past, many users did not like my idea of different colors for different aircraft. They stated that it is copying Braniff. However, I personally like the idea of multicolored aircraft:

* MD-88 - Blue
* MD-90 - Teal
* 737-800 - Yellow
* 757-200 - Orange
* 767-300 - Green
* 767-400ER - Pink
* 777-200 - Red

I hope Delta doesn't go with different colors for different aircraft. I don't know if anyone has said this before, but it would look too much like Braniff... and the last thing DL wants right now is more things that remind them of DFW!


User currently offlineB752OS From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 1322 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 9665 times:

Quite Frankly, I miss the old DL livery. The "97" livery is much better than the bland livery they have now.

User currently offlineCadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 30
Reply 13, posted (8 years 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 9659 times:

SOT, but why did DL have this livery for a few years then switch to the present one so soon?


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User currently offlineDL787932ER From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 597 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (8 years 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 9633 times:

Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 13):
SOT, but why did DL have this livery for a few years then switch to the present one so soon?

Executive ego. DL had two CEOs in a row who were more interested in putting their mark on the airline than in actually running it well. It worked okay for Ron Allen, who implemented the '97 livery, because any idiot could run a profitable airline in the late '90s. It didn't work so well for Leo Mullin, who implemented the 2000 livery, because times rapidly got tough, and fortunately for DL he got run out of town on the proverbial rail.



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User currently offlineCadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 30
Reply 15, posted (8 years 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 9626 times:

Quoting DL787932ER (Reply 14):
who implemented the 2000 livery, because times rapidly got tough, and fortunately for DL he got run out of town on the proverbial rail.

Wow, they've had the current one that long now? It doesnt even seem that long ago...



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User currently offlineDAL767400ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (8 years 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 9488 times:

Quoting DL787932ER (Reply 7):
Deltaflot has grown on me (far, far superior to Ron Allen) but I'd like to see it changed - when the time is right. Around the end of the decade, after BK is behind them and 772LRs and 787s are coming in, I would like to see something that keeps more modern touches like the lighter blue shades and new font but also brings the widget back to prominence on the tail and nacelles.

Call me a fanatic, but if DL's first 772LR were to roll out of the paint shop in the traditional Widget livery, I'd go completely nuts Big grin .

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 8):
However, I personally like the idea of multicolored aircraft:

* MD-88 - Blue
* MD-90 - Teal
* 737-800 - Yellow
* 757-200 - Orange
* 767-300 - Green
* 767-400ER - Pink
* 777-200 - Red

Way too costly to have all those different colors.


User currently offlineSESGDL From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3483 posts, RR: 10
Reply 17, posted (8 years 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 9263 times:

Quoting N766UA (Reply 4):
Quite a few 763s and a few 757s are still in the old colors

757s:

N611DL
N616DL
N621DL
N623DL
N626DL
N627DL
N657DL
N687DL
N688DL
N689DL
N690DL
N692DL

767-300s:

N143DA
N122DL
N130DL
N171DZ
N1201P
N1602
N1604R
N1605
N172DN
N175DN

Jeremy


User currently offlineKSUpilot From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 656 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (8 years 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 9177 times:

Wow never knew it was that many. I know it was said that they usually are gradually repainted when they go in for maintainance, but that's a lot of airplanes in older colors. I guess Delta does have bigger problems right now than to worry about a dozen aircraft in different colors.

User currently offlinePhilhyde From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 678 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (8 years 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 9147 times:

Quoting FlyDeltaJets (Reply 9):
What is funny is that all of the 75's in the old livery have the new interior. I guess it is a way of saying past meets future.

Also, when you are sitting inside as a paying customer, you care more about the new interior than the paint job!



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User currently offlineSBN580 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 401 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (8 years 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 9125 times:

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 16):
Call me a fanatic, but if DL's first 772LR were to roll out of the paint shop in the traditional Widget livery, I'd go completely nuts  .

You're a fanatic, but then again, for the classic "widget," livery, so am I!  hyper 



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User currently offlineMicstatic From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 779 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (8 years 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 9068 times:

What always bothered me about the new livery is that unfinished alum strip on the bottom of the a/c. It looks like the painters ran out of time. I know that's not the case though. I think solid white would have looked better if they had to go with Generic white in the first place.


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User currently offlineSESGDL From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3483 posts, RR: 10
Reply 22, posted (8 years 1 week 4 days ago) and read 8620 times:

Quoting Micstatic (Reply 21):
What always bothered me about the new livery is that unfinished alum strip on the bottom of the a/c. It looks like the painters ran out of time. I know that's not the case though. I think solid white would have looked better if they had to go with Generic white in the first place.

I love the silver bottom, the paint scheme would look terrible without it. It's something that all three paint schemes have had.

Jeremy


User currently offlineCpsarras From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 65 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (8 years 1 week 4 days ago) and read 8390 times:

Quoting Micstatic (Reply 21):
What always bothered me about the new livery is that unfinished alum strip on the bottom of the a/c. It looks like the painters ran out of time. I know that's not the case though. I think solid white would have looked better if they had to go with Generic white in the first place.

I agree, it would look so much nicer and up-to-the minute. I think the reason was that that's how it was painted beforehand, so it was easier (and cost-effective) to just keep it.

I never liked the -97 scheme, and the previous one (old widget livery) looks so dated, I'd cringe if it was brought back!

Personal taste ofcourse  Smile

Christos



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User currently offlineSteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9205 posts, RR: 20
Reply 24, posted (8 years 1 week 4 days ago) and read 8092 times:

Ok, so DL changed their livery in 1997 to the one as shown in the pic (which I like). Why did they change it again some 3-4 years later then??? All those planes that got a repaint in the "new" livery after 1997 would then have to undergo another one a few years later after taking on another livery concept. This has probably been discussed before, but still it's something I wonder about...


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25 Cloud4000 : Any of Song aircraft been repainted yet?
26 Charliejag1 : I doubt it. The more likely scenario is that those parts have been changed and the installed part happened to have the new colors since the plane it
27 ScottB : And one of the 757's in the 1997 colors operated my ATL-BOS flight today (DL 1655), complete with updated interior. The old widget livery was truly a
28 Brilondon : I like elements of all three colour schemes and and wish they could incorporate the widget on the tail with the colours of the present scheme with the
29 DL4EVR : I was on N688DL a few weeks ago. Still had the '97 livery, but had the new interiors (minus mesh curtains). It's nice to see that a few planes still h
30 KSUpilot : I second that. I wouldn't say the new one is horrible, it is just missing the classic widget.
31 Post contains images Laxatljfkcvg : If you have never seen that plane I dont know where youve been
32 Usair320 : The last I saw this plane was in ATL in DEC of 2005. Dont know if it's been repainted since then.
33 MCOflyer : I saw that plane in SAN in Jun this year. Looked beautiful. For those of you saying " Past meets future", I agree with you. What my theory is that wh
34 SESGDL : Yes: N655DL N693DL N6701 N67171 N6712B N6713Y N6716C Jeremy
35 DALMD88 : DL does not repaint at heavy check. Last year there was a big push to get more repaints done but lately some of the paint line has been taken up by co
36 Alitalia744 : Personally, I like the Deltaflot livery best, it's grown on me. At first I was like WTF is this? But now, over time it has appeal, is contemporary, mo
37 Post contains links and images DALOCCDtyDrctr : If you didn't see it, you wouldn't believe how 102 stood out in ATL the last days before retirement - It was awesome to watch it turn off the taxiway
38 ScottB : Except that the 1997 livery says "Delta Air Lines" as that's the correct name of the company.
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