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Flights To KOA - Kona  
User currently offlineAtlaaron From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 1020 posts, RR: 3
Posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 1505 times:
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I have an upcoming flight on United from KOA-LAX. It does not appear the flight is all that full. I have also read on a.net many times how the DL SLC-KOA route needs to be downsized. Are flights to KOA in general just not doing well? Are most people flying to HNL then connecting to the other islands on the Hawaiian airlines?

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User currently offlineLaxintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24323 posts, RR: 47
Reply 1, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1497 times:

Quoting Atlaaron (Thread starter):
DL SLC-KOA route needs to be downsized

DL has/is dropping its SLC-KOA service. Makes a brief reappearance around the holidays again.

Assume you are headed to Kona in the next couple of months. Generally September until Thanksgiving is a somewhat quieter period.

Quoting Atlaaron (Thread starter):
Are most people flying to HNL then connecting to the other islands on the Hawaiian airlines?

On the contrary. There has been a significant fragmentation of flights to Hawaii with more direct services to the islands. Less and less people use HNL as a transfer point each year as reflected in the shrinking inter island market Aloha and Hawaiian are experiencing.



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User currently offlineATLAaron From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 1020 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1484 times:
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Quoting Laxintl (Reply 1):
DL has/is dropping its SLC-KOA service. Makes a brief reappearance around the holidays again.

Any idea if it will return after that or is it done? Any opinion on why they could not make it work?

I personally live in ATL and could have choose DL for my flight (obviously), however I choose United because LAX seems like a much more appropriate stopping point for a flight to Hawaii. I felt it was the best way to breakup the long flight.

Note: I am going the first week of Oct.


User currently offlineATLAaron From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 1020 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1472 times:
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Oh yeah and what kind of IFE can we expect on our flight? I will glued to channel 9, but my wife needs something to keep her busy.

User currently offlineUA772IAD From Australia, joined Jul 2004, 1698 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1466 times:

Quoting ATLAaron (Reply 3):
Oh yeah and what kind of IFE can we expect on our flight? I will glued to channel 9, but my wife needs something to keep her busy.

UA 757s F and Y have monitors mounted on the celing down the center aisle. A feature film and short subject material will be shown. If she is looking for more, might I suggest a book/book on tape, portable DVD player or a nice book of Sudoku.


User currently offlineATLAaron From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 1020 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1463 times:
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Quoting UA772IAD (Reply 4):
UA 757s F and Y have monitors mounted on the celing down the center aisle. A feature film and short subject material will be shown. If she is looking for more, might I suggest a book/book on tape, portable DVD player or a nice book of Sudoku.

iPOD


User currently offlineUA772IAD From Australia, joined Jul 2004, 1698 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1456 times:

Quoting ATLAaron (Reply 5):
iPOD

-Then you're all set. Hope your trip is great! I can't wait till I go back to KOA in March.
I'm assuming this is your first time? I won't spoil too much, but I have to tell you, the airport is awsome. Particularly the approach over the lava fields.


User currently offlineLaxintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24323 posts, RR: 47
Reply 7, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1343 times:

Quoting ATLAaron (Reply 2):
Any idea if it will return after that or is it done? Any opinion on why they could not make it work?

For now its gone for good, however several a.net posters claim it might return on a 757 at a later date.
I believe the failure was mostly to do with the fact that the aircraft assigned (767-400) was simply too much capacity for SLC-KOA even with the transfer traffic the SLC hub managed to foster.



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User currently offlineUA2162 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 488 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1294 times:

Quoting Atlaaron (Thread starter):
Are flights to KOA in general just not doing well?

Quite the opposite. KOA is doing great. Airlines keep adding routes and they keep filling. Our loads for US have constantly been over 90%. In short, it has been a great season and while it'll slow down for a while (US loads around 70%), the holiday season is already looking full.

Other airlines are experiencing the same. UA added a third daily LAX departure (only seasonal) and now we hear WestJest is on their way over.

Quoting Laxintl (Reply 7):
For now its gone for good, however several a.net posters claim it might return on a 757 at a later date.
I believe the failure was mostly to do with the fact that the aircraft assigned (767-400) was simply too much capacity for SLC-KOA even with the transfer traffic the SLC hub managed to foster.

The DL loads were great. However, they pulled the aircraft since they can make more money on their European routes. There are two scenarios going around now:

1. DL will return with one of their "new" ex-TW 752's

2. DL will return wiith SLC-OGG-KOA on a 764.

People have a tendancy to forget that DL was going great with cargo from KOA, too. DL will be back, it's just a matter of when. They are so sure of this, they haven't furloughed any workers (they have been taken in by other contracts until DL returns.)


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