Brenintw From Taiwan Region, joined Jul 2006, 926 posts, RR: 1 Reply 1, posted (3 years 2 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2760 times:
The last information I heard is that it's "still under negotiation".
It certainly will not be EVA's -- EVA is only building the thing, not operating it. It will be operated by Evergreen Airlines (the US cargo airline, not related to EVA).
Bren
I love taking off, I love landing -- I'm not wild about the bit in between
ERAUgrad02 From United States, joined Nov 2005, 1010 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (3 years 2 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2511 times:
Maybe dreamliner scheme with the EVA tail? That would be best. I cant see just 3 of these being enough. Theyd be in the air non-stop. Someone use the side profile of the plane and do some schemes. id like to see.
JHSfan From Denmark, joined Apr 2004, 469 posts, RR: 3 Reply 12, posted (3 years 2 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2185 times:
Quoting MauriceB (Reply 11): I think it will get the typical French design... white
No no, the plane will have a large picture of Quasimodo from "The Hunchback of Notre Dame". Ugly with a big hunch, but essential for the story we're seeing and the result will be much beauty... when the 787 takes off.
Yours in realtime
JHSfan
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Lredlefsen From United States, joined Apr 2006, 151 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (3 years 2 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 1914 times:
Quoting ERAUgrad02 (Reply 4): I cant see just 3 of these being enough. Theyd be in the air non-stop.
If each plane can make 1 round trip per day, aren't we talking about 3 fuselages per day, or 90 per month? I didn't think the 787 line(s) were going to crank out quite that many planes...?
KC135TopBoom From United States, joined Jan 2005, 7435 posts, RR: 50 Reply 15, posted (3 years 2 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 1901 times:
Quoting Lredlefsen (Reply 14): If each plane can make 1 round trip per day, aren't we talking about 3 fuselages per day, or 90 per month? I didn't think the 787 line(s) were going to crank out quite that many planes...?
Wouldn't that be 90 sections per month, or are we talking about an entire fuselage per shipment? I also thought Boeing was gearing up to a 3 day assembly for each B-787. If that is their goal, theoreticly, they could build 120 airplanes per month (I know they are planning something like 30 per month).
PlanenutzTB From United States, joined Sep 2005, 255 posts, RR: 1 Reply 18, posted (3 years 2 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1869 times:
It would be neat if they painted an actual size picture of a 787 on each side to represent what the 747LCF carries inside. Then they should print somewhere on the fuselage "787 Dreamliner On Board".
I am extraordinarily patient, provided I get my own way in the end.
Zvezda From Lithuania, joined Aug 2004, 10181 posts, RR: 70 Reply 20, posted (3 years 2 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1772 times:
Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 15): Wouldn't that be 90 sections per month, or are we talking about an entire fuselage per shipment?
90 sections per month, optimistically assuming 1 per day per aircraft. That would be 30 fuselages per month, very optimistically.
Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 15): I also thought Boeing was gearing up to a 3 day assembly for each B-787. If that is their goal, theoreticly, they could build 120 airplanes per month.
How do you calculate that?
Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 15): (I know they are planning something like 30 per month).
30 B787s per month? That sounds very high to me. I don't think Boeing can sell 30 B787s per month.
Atnight From Ecuador, joined Dec 2005, 520 posts, RR: 1 Reply 21, posted (3 years 2 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1687 times:
Quoting Lredlefsen (Reply 14): If each plane can make 1 round trip per day, aren't we talking about 3 fuselages per day, or 90 per month? I didn't think the 787 line(s) were going to crank out quite that many planes...?
Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 15): Wouldn't that be 90 sections per month, or are we talking about an entire fuselage per shipment? I also thought Boeing was gearing up to a 3 day assembly for each B-787. If that is their goal, theoreticly, they could build 120 airplanes per month (I know they are planning something like 30 per month).
Guys, where do you get the idea that Boeing will make 30 a month (or even more as some suggest?) that's an entire plane a day! if that was even a possibility, Boeing would be offering airlines more slots for 2009-2010.. because at that rate, it would take them just over a year to make and deliver all the planes on order after the production starts... however, we know that there are very little slots open until 2010, and I believe 2012 is when they have really open slots, so your ideas of 30 or more planes a month are absurd.... Boeing cannot do it.... There's a thread going on that says how Boeing is concerned about weight, not production rate (maybe that shows the plane isn't exactly where it should be, and Boeing wants to say they won't produce planes too fast to make sure their plane fits their specifications and maybe they are foreseeing a chance of having major delays later on, like with the A380 program.... and Boeing will face simliar critisim and will have to work compensations just like Airbus... The only problem is that Boeing has over 400 orders, while Airbus has just 159... so if delays happen to the 787 program, Boeing's problems will affect a lot more customers.... that's why Boeing has started to hint at "weight, not rate")
OldAeroGuy From United States, joined Dec 2004, 2818 posts, RR: 61 Reply 22, posted (3 years 2 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1646 times:
Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 15): Wouldn't that be 90 sections per month, or are we talking about an entire fuselage per shipment? I also thought Boeing was gearing up to a 3 day assembly for each B-787.
Quoting Atnight (Reply 21): Guys, where do you get the idea that Boeing will make 30 a month (or even more as some suggest?) that's an entire plane a day!
Don't forget, the 74LCF will also be carrying the wings to Everett as well. It won't be just fuselage sections.
Airplane design is easy, the difficulty is getting them to fly - Barnes Wallis
Aloha717200 From United States, joined Aug 2003, 3538 posts, RR: 19 Reply 23, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1476 times:
Quoting PlanenutzTB (Reply 18): It would be neat if they painted an actual size picture of a 787 on each side to represent what the 747LCF carries inside. Then they should print somewhere on the fuselage "787 Dreamliner On Board".
I agree completely, that would be an awesome concept. An "intel inside" for airliners.
AirbusA346 From United Kingdom (England), joined Dec 2004, 7434 posts, RR: 3 Reply 24, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1422 times:
Quoting Zarniwoop (Reply 9): There is a computer generated image in this document:
I want the real thing, not a computer generated image.
Tom.
Tom Walker '086' First Officer of a A318/A319 for Air Lambert - Hours Flown: 17 hour 05 minutes (last updated 24/12/05).
Lredlefsen From United States, joined Apr 2006, 151 posts, RR: 0 Reply 25, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1217 times:
Quoting Atnight (Reply 21): Guys, where do you get the idea that Boeing will make 30 a month (or even more as some suggest?) that's an entire plane a day!
That was exactly my point!
Someone said "is 3 LCFs enough?"
I said "3 LCFs lets you transport as many as 30 fuselages a month", but forgot to say "that is waaay more than Boeing needs."
Remember that these things will have to go in for maintenance, etc. once in a while, too. And, as others have pointed out, Boeing is ultimately targeting 6 LCFs, but LCFs transport not only fuselages, but also wings.
So it sounds like 3 is enough, and 6 will be plenty.
26 ERAUgrad02: Now u see why i asked finally. lol.
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