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What Livery Will Be On The B-747-LCF  
User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12160 posts, RR: 51
Posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 7209 times:

Does anyone know what livery the new B-747-LCFs will be painted in? Will it be Boeing's Livery, or EVA's?

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User currently offlineBrenintw From Taiwan, joined Jul 2006, 1689 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 7198 times:

The last information I heard is that it's "still under negotiation".

It certainly will not be EVA's -- EVA is only building the thing, not operating it. It will be operated by Evergreen Airlines (the US cargo airline, not related to EVA).

Bren



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User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12160 posts, RR: 51
Reply 2, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 7114 times:

So, it can either be painted all white, in Boeing colors, or Evergreen colors.

User currently offlineDEVILFISH From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4887 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 7066 times:

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 2):
in Boeing colors, or Evergreen colors.

Or a combination of both.



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User currently offlineERAUgrad02 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1227 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 6949 times:

Maybe dreamliner scheme with the EVA tail? That would be best. I cant see just 3 of these being enough. Theyd be in the air non-stop. Someone use the side profile of the plane and do some schemes. id like to see.


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User currently offlineCCA From Hong Kong, joined Oct 2002, 838 posts, RR: 14
Reply 5, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 6873 times:

My guess is a Dreamliner fuselage with Evergreen fin.


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User currently offlineZvezda From Lithuania, joined Aug 2004, 10511 posts, RR: 64
Reply 6, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 6866 times:

Someone previously suggested painting three rows of fake windows.  Smile

User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31692 posts, RR: 56
Reply 7, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 6847 times:

Whens the test flight due.
Any pics on the operating Aft section.
regds
MEL



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User currently offlineFlynlr From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 225 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 6825 times:

Quoting Zvezda (Reply 6):
Someone previously suggested painting three rows of fake windows. Smile

waffles.



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User currently offlineZarniwoop From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 265 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 6791 times:

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 7):
Any pics on the operating Aft section.

There is a computer generated image in this document:

http://www.boeing.com/news/frontiers/i_ca01.pdf


User currently offlineSinlock From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 1650 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 6706 times:

Well what ever it may be. I doubt that Boeing will just paint it white, and miss out on the chance of a flying Billboard.

I say paint it like a GIANT can of Red Bull.  bouncy 



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User currently offlineMauriceB From Netherlands, joined Aug 2004, 2490 posts, RR: 25
Reply 11, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 6700 times:

I think it will get the typical French design... white  Smile

User currently offlineJHSfan From Denmark, joined Apr 2004, 469 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 6623 times:

Quoting MauriceB (Reply 11):
I think it will get the typical French design... white

No no, the plane will have a large picture of Quasimodo from "The Hunchback of Notre Dame". Ugly with a big hunch, but essential for the story we're seeing and the result will be much beauty... when the 787 takes off.  Smile

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User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12160 posts, RR: 51
Reply 13, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 6436 times:

How about a painting of a spear through a whale (jet)?  duck 

 rotfl   rotfl   rotfl 


User currently offlineLredlefsen From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 151 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 6352 times:

Quoting ERAUgrad02 (Reply 4):
I cant see just 3 of these being enough. Theyd be in the air non-stop.

If each plane can make 1 round trip per day, aren't we talking about 3 fuselages per day, or 90 per month? I didn't think the 787 line(s) were going to crank out quite that many planes...?


User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12160 posts, RR: 51
Reply 15, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 6339 times:

Quoting Lredlefsen (Reply 14):
If each plane can make 1 round trip per day, aren't we talking about 3 fuselages per day, or 90 per month? I didn't think the 787 line(s) were going to crank out quite that many planes...?

Wouldn't that be 90 sections per month, or are we talking about an entire fuselage per shipment? I also thought Boeing was gearing up to a 3 day assembly for each B-787. If that is their goal, theoreticly, they could build 120 airplanes per month (I know they are planning something like 30 per month).


User currently offlineGunsontheroof From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 3508 posts, RR: 10
Reply 16, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 6339 times:

I'd be very surprised to see anything fancy given that it's a freighter. My guess is that it'll have minimal Boeing markings and not much else.


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User currently offlineAtnight From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 606 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 6312 times:

Does anyone know if the WeinerJet has made its flight debut? I have not seen or heard anything about that, so I was wondering what is going on....


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User currently offlinePlanenutzTB From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 256 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 6307 times:

It would be neat if they painted an actual size picture of a 787 on each side to represent what the 747LCF carries inside. Then they should print somewhere on the fuselage "787 Dreamliner On Board".


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User currently offlineDEVILFISH From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4887 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 6268 times:

Quoting ERAUgrad02 (Reply 4):
I cant see just 3 of these being enough. Theyd be in the air non-stop.

IIRC, it was mentioned in an old thread that eventually, six airframes would be converted.



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User currently offlineZvezda From Lithuania, joined Aug 2004, 10511 posts, RR: 64
Reply 20, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 6210 times:

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 15):
Wouldn't that be 90 sections per month, or are we talking about an entire fuselage per shipment?

90 sections per month, optimistically assuming 1 per day per aircraft. That would be 30 fuselages per month, very optimistically.

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 15):
I also thought Boeing was gearing up to a 3 day assembly for each B-787. If that is their goal, theoreticly, they could build 120 airplanes per month.

How do you calculate that?

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 15):
(I know they are planning something like 30 per month).

30 B787s per month? That sounds very high to me. I don't think Boeing can sell 30 B787s per month.


User currently offlineAtnight From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 606 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 6125 times:

Quoting Lredlefsen (Reply 14):
If each plane can make 1 round trip per day, aren't we talking about 3 fuselages per day, or 90 per month? I didn't think the 787 line(s) were going to crank out quite that many planes...?



Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 15):
Wouldn't that be 90 sections per month, or are we talking about an entire fuselage per shipment? I also thought Boeing was gearing up to a 3 day assembly for each B-787. If that is their goal, theoreticly, they could build 120 airplanes per month (I know they are planning something like 30 per month).

Guys, where do you get the idea that Boeing will make 30 a month (or even more as some suggest?) that's an entire plane a day! if that was even a possibility, Boeing would be offering airlines more slots for 2009-2010.. because at that rate, it would take them just over a year to make and deliver all the planes on order after the production starts... however, we know that there are very little slots open until 2010, and I believe 2012 is when they have really open slots, so your ideas of 30 or more planes a month are absurd.... Boeing cannot do it.... There's a thread going on that says how Boeing is concerned about weight, not production rate (maybe that shows the plane isn't exactly where it should be, and Boeing wants to say they won't produce planes too fast to make sure their plane fits their specifications and maybe they are foreseeing a chance of having major delays later on, like with the A380 program.... and Boeing will face simliar critisim and will have to work compensations just like Airbus... The only problem is that Boeing has over 400 orders, while Airbus has just 159... so if delays happen to the 787 program, Boeing's problems will affect a lot more customers.... that's why Boeing has started to hint at "weight, not rate")



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User currently offlineOldAeroGuy From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 3548 posts, RR: 67
Reply 22, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 6084 times:

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 15):
Wouldn't that be 90 sections per month, or are we talking about an entire fuselage per shipment? I also thought Boeing was gearing up to a 3 day assembly for each B-787.



Quoting Atnight (Reply 21):
Guys, where do you get the idea that Boeing will make 30 a month (or even more as some suggest?) that's an entire plane a day!

Don't forget, the 74LCF will also be carrying the wings to Everett as well. It won't be just fuselage sections.



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User currently offlineAloha717200 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4516 posts, RR: 15
Reply 23, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 5914 times:

Quoting PlanenutzTB (Reply 18):
It would be neat if they painted an actual size picture of a 787 on each side to represent what the 747LCF carries inside. Then they should print somewhere on the fuselage "787 Dreamliner On Board".

I agree completely, that would be an awesome concept. An "intel inside" for airliners. Big grin


User currently offlineAirbusA346 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2004, 7437 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 5860 times:

Quoting Zarniwoop (Reply 9):
There is a computer generated image in this document:

 hissyfit   hissyfit  I want the real thing, not a computer generated image.  Wink

Tom.



Tom Walker '086' First Officer of a A318/A319 for Air Lambert - Hours Flown: 17 hour 05 minutes (last updated 24/12/05).
25 Post contains images Lredlefsen : That was exactly my point! Someone said "is 3 LCFs enough?" I said "3 LCFs lets you transport as many as 30 fuselages a month", but forgot to say "th
26 ERAUgrad02 : Now u see why i asked finally. lol.
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