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What Will Happen To The Old Bangkok Airport  
User currently offlineNewYorkCityBoi From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 193 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 11 months 12 hours ago) and read 9039 times:

Hi,
I know I am Thai but I live in Seattle and haven't been back for so long. So I dont know about this... What are they going to do with the old Bangkok Donmuang Airport after they open the new Suwanabhumi airport in this coming 2 weeks?
Who knows?

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User currently offlinePADSpot From Germany, joined Jan 2005, 1676 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (7 years 11 months 12 hours ago) and read 9020 times:

I suppose they should add some holes to the golf course and replace landing fees with green fees ...  bigthumbsup 

No clue sorry ...


User currently offlineLevent From France, joined Sep 2004, 1718 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (7 years 11 months 11 hours ago) and read 8959 times:

The latest news is that the airport will be used for private aircraft and charters, and the Royal Thai Air Force will still be using it. Thai Airways may or may not continue there with their maintenance centre. There is also some wild plan for converting the passenger terminals into a shopping mall, exhibition centre or whatever.

Anyway, all commercial traffic should have moved to Suvarnabhumi by the 28th. Thai, Nok Air and Bangkok Airways have said they're planning to start at NBK on the 15th, and Thai Air Asia on the 25th. Whether that will happen, we'll have to see too.

The Novotel Airport hotel is now opened, by the way.


User currently offlineNewYorkCityBoi From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 193 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 11 months 11 hours ago) and read 8943 times:

thanks for the infor!
Too bad that we dont do 2 airports like in Seoul, Tokyo.. etc.


User currently offlineSLCUT2777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 4028 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (7 years 11 months 11 hours ago) and read 8904 times:

Quoting NewYorkCityBoi (Reply 3):
Too bad that we dont do 2 airports like in Seoul, Tokyo.. etc.

I'm not sure how close in the old airport is to downtown, but if that's the case you have the perfect airport fitting WN's business model! They will want exclusive rights to the old airport!  sarcastic   rotfl 



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User currently offlineBa757gla From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2006, 760 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (7 years 11 months 10 hours ago) and read 8898 times:

A new low cost Hub perhaps!!

User currently onlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39722 posts, RR: 75
Reply 6, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 8687 times:

Will the BTS skytrain service this airport?
If not, are there any plans to do so?



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User currently offlineLufthansa747 From Philippines, joined May 1999, 3201 posts, RR: 43
Reply 7, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 8680 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 6):
Will the BTS skytrain service this airport?

No, but separate airport express rail link will whenever it opens in 2 years time or something.

Should connect to BTS at On Nut I read somewhere.



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User currently onlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39722 posts, RR: 75
Reply 8, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 8650 times:

Quoting Lufthansa747 (Reply 7):
Should connect to BTS at On Nut I read somewhere.

Thanks for the information. I am curious if there are any U.S. based companies involved with the planning and construction of this rail line.



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User currently offlineAussie747 From Australia, joined Aug 2003, 1163 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 8578 times:

Is the trip to the airport from the city expected to be quicker at the new airport than it is curently from Don Muang Airport? Thanks in advance.

User currently offlineCoronado990 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1597 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 8561 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 8):
Thanks for the information. I am curious if there are any U.S. based companies involved with the planning and construction of this rail line.

I didn't know U.S. and rail could be used in the same sentence. Learn something new everyday.

[Edited 2006-09-09 03:01:03]


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User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9747 posts, RR: 11
Reply 11, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 8401 times:

I remember reading that the old airport would be used for domestic and low cost flights so I assumed that TG would be excluded as it wouldn't make sense for them to operate domestic flights and international flights at separate airports. Please correct me....  Smile

A388


User currently offlineNewYorkCityBoi From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 193 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 8374 times:

Quoting A388 (Reply 11):
I remember reading that the old airport would be used for domestic and low cost flights so I assumed that TG would be excluded as it wouldn't make sense for them to operate domestic flights and international flights at separate airports. Please correct me....

From what I read and heard, all other domestic airlines and low cost airlines will move to the new Airport too.

Quoting Aussie747 (Reply 9):
Is the trip to the airport from the city expected to be quicker at the new airport than it is curently from Don Muang Airport? Thanks in advance.

If you're talking about from downtown, I think the Toll-way on Vipawadee Rd has a lot better traffic than other highways. With about the same distance from downtown, I think Donmuang Airport is a lot faster than the new airport. (someone who actually lives in Bangkok please correct me since I havent go back for 2 years)


User currently offlinePbb152 From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 613 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 8371 times:

Will the new airport inherit the IATA/ICAO identifiers of the old Don Muang Intl airport (BKK & VTBD) or will they be completely new identifiers?

Quoting Levent (Reply 2):
Anyway, all commercial traffic should have moved to Suvarnabhumi by the 28th. Thai, Nok Air and Bangkok Airways have said they're planning to start at NBK on the 15th, and Thai Air Asia on the 25th. Whether that will happen, we'll have to see too.

Per the above post the IATA will be NBK, but I have read previously that Suvarnabhumi would inherit the BKK identifier. Can anyone confirm?


User currently offlineNewYorkCityBoi From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 193 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 8346 times:

I can confirm Suwanabhumi airport will use "BKK"

User currently offlineAaron747 From Japan, joined Aug 2003, 8039 posts, RR: 26
Reply 15, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 8218 times:

It's absolutely ridiculous that this metastasis of a new airport will not have rail links to the city upon its opening.


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User currently offlineJCS From Netherlands, joined Jun 2004, 210 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 8155 times:

I made a scan of a map. The old airport is as far as the new airport, especially when considering that the Sukhumvit road is more the city center. The skytrain at Sukhumvit could easily be extended to the new airport. See point 1 for the current final station. See point 2 on my map for the highway to the new airport.
Big version: Width: 600 Height: 376 File size: 129kb

Please see my scan at THIS link, since A-net does just support low-quality crap; it is about 3 mb.


User currently offlineNewYorkCityBoi From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 193 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 8080 times:

Is this Sky train from On-Nut to the airport "Nonstop"?

If not, then I think taking a cab will be faster with no traffic and It would cost less than you take taxi from Time Sq to Grand Central in Manhattan.. hehe

The BTS from On-Nut to Siam Sq. is about 35 mins and connect to Silom Area would be up to 45-50 mins already.


User currently offlineRoyalOrchid773 From Thailand, joined Apr 2001, 61 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 7904 times:

Both International and Domestic flights will be operated from Suvarnabhumi International from 28 Sept onward.

Here are some facts that I thought you all would like to know.
1.The very first passenger flight scheduled to land on the first commercial day at the new airport will be TG316 from DEL using B777-300.
2. The first flight to depart on Sept 28th is TG634 BKK-TPE-ICN using B777-300 as well.
3. All Domestic flights will depart from Concourse A (A1-A5) and B (B-1-B6).
4. All Star Alliance flights will depart from Concourse C (C1-C10) and D (D1-D4)
5. CX709 will fly directly from Hong Kong into the new airport on the night of Sept27th without having to land at Don Muang and later have to fly an empty plane to Suvarnabhumi, and so as UA837 (NRT-BKK).
6. An official time to open the new airport is 3.00AM on Sept 28th.

Looking forward to the opening of the new airport!


User currently offlineLufthansa747 From Philippines, joined May 1999, 3201 posts, RR: 43
Reply 19, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 7825 times:

Quoting NewYorkCityBoi (Reply 17):
Is this Sky train from On-Nut to the airport "Nonstop"?

Well the newest article said BTS Phya Thai and nothing about On Nut - would make no sense in my opinion.

Quoting NewYorkCityBoi (Reply 17):
The BTS from On-Nut to Siam Sq. is about 35 mins

It's not that long in my experience. Thong Lo - Siam which I do frequently isn't more than 15 mins usually, just Ekkamai/Phra Khanong/On Nut after that.

On Nut stop would make sense, if it connects in Phya Thai, completely useless for anybody in Sukhumvit. And most likely even eith On Nut, a taxi is cheaper for anything more than 1 pax.



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User currently offlineVTBDflyer From Thailand, joined Aug 2006, 378 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 7810 times:

I don't think that I wuold use the BTS if it goes all the way to Suvarnabhumi as I'm all the way at the Emporium on Sukhumvit. It's a relativly long haul for me to get to Suvarnabhumi from our compound. I think we would just drive, but thats still fun. Imagine loading up a good bit of luggage on the BTS... not too fun.

VTBDflyer



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User currently offlineManchesterMAN From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 1219 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 7768 times:

With the new airport retaining the airport code BKK, what will happen for the week or so when a limited number of routes will be operated from Suvanabhumi, e.g. by NOK air, whilst Don Munag is still open? During this period will both airports be coded BKK? Is is possible to have 2 airports with the same code? Just curious ...


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User currently offlineTravellin'man From United States of America, joined May 2001, 530 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 7745 times:

Donmuang would make a great cargo airport as well. I'm sure there's space...


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User currently offlineAndaman From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 7723 times:

Can't wait to see the new airport, it looks so cool.

I heard Finnair is very happy getting to Suvarnabhumi, after all those delays.
BKK is such an important airport for them, two daily flights from HEL next winter, with a new connection to KUL in spring. This makes them the second largest European operator in BKK.
Perhaps more connections possible via BKK in future, would it be possible new Suvarnabhumi offers more slots?


User currently offlineLufthansa747 From Philippines, joined May 1999, 3201 posts, RR: 43
Reply 24, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 7694 times:

Quoting ManchesterMAN (Reply 21):
what will happen for the week or so when a limited number of routes will be operated from Suvanabhumi, e.g. by NOK air, whilst Don Munag is still open? During this period will both airports be coded BKK? quote]

It's NBK/VTBS as we speak.

[quote=Andaman,reply=23]BKK is such an important airport for them, two daily flights from HEL next winter, with a new connection to KUL in spring. This makes them the second largest European operator in BKK.

Who's the largest then?

LH - Daily 744 FRA-BKK-KUL/SGN
BA - Daily 744 LHR-BKK-SYD
AF - Daily 343/744 CDG-BKK-SGN/HAN
KL - Daily 74E AMS-BKK-TPE
OS - Daily 330/340 VIE-BKK
SK - Daily 343 CPH-BKK
LX - Daily 343 ZRH-BKK
SU - Daily IL9 SVO-BKK

AY - Double Daily M11 HEL-BKK, HEL-BKK-KUL/SIN

Makes AY look hands down the largest unless i'm too tired/missing something obvious.

LH's MUC is not coming back and FRA is staying just daily 744.



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25 Andaman : Thanks Lufthansa747, you must be right, next winter season AY seems to be the biggest. Got my info from AY, they must have ment the situation now wit
26 Post contains links A388 : I didn't know that the new airport was already being used! I just came across a website with photos of the new airport with passengers walking everywh
27 NewYorkCityBoi : Is TK and LO still flying BKK? This is a lot less than those days in late 90's when I saw not only BA, AF, KL, OS, SK, LX, SU but there were OA, AZ,
28 Andaman : TK yes, LO not at the moment.
29 Lufthansa747 : A new 332 as well since they dropped the SIN tag. AZ is codesharing with CI.
30 UpperDeck79 : And AY will actually keep the double daily also in the summer of '07! Since the flights will be daily HEL-BKK-HEL MD-11 and daily HEL-BKK-KUL/SIN-BKK
31 NewYorkCityBoi : WOw! The morning flight has no tag! I wonder AY takes most scandinavian tourist or all around europe on these flight? Because I think TG and SK take
32 Andaman : So far around half of AY's passengers on HEL-BKK has been Finns, plus lot of other Nordics. Especially in summer they need more customers from Northe
33 United787 : I will never forget flying into the old BKK last December and seeing golfers waiting patiently for our airplane to pass so they can cross the taxiway
34 Post contains images NewYorkCityBoi : As far as I know, this golf course is illegal!, There is a restaurant in the middle with a dark film over all windows to avoid the lights to disturb
35 VTBDflyer : They were right outside the windows! It is great. I will miss it, however Suvarnabhumi will have an observation deck. Yep, an Observation Deck. VTBDf
36 Post contains images FXMD11 : OK. Let me give you a couple of details. All airlines will move out of Don Muang until Sep 28th 2006. Until then Don Muang will keep BKK as the 3 Let
37 Post contains links and images Superfly : Is this at all related? http://www.2bangkok.com/2bangkok/MassTransit/HopewellMain.shtml YIKES! That is so Un-Thai-like. Thailand is known for it's lo
38 FXMD11 : " target=_blank>http://www.2bangkok.com/2bangkok/Mas...shtml Thats it, Superfly! But not all of it actually. Most of the piles will be taken away or m
39 TonyBurr : Are you CERTAIN that the airport will open 28 September? There seems to be some real doubt?
40 NewYorkCityBoi : Exactly!.. hope it wont look ugly when they finish it! FXMD11, thanks for lots of info!
41 Post contains images Superfly : FXMD11: From the article, it sounds like Bangkok is going with a company based in Hong Kong.
42 Post contains images Lufthansa747 : Well, even the 7000B rate is less than Amari Don Muang. Ripoffs are everywhere when there's no choice in Thailand. I can't get a direct broadband sub
43 Superfly : Are you talking about just near the airport? All the rooms I saw advertised were in the 500-750 THB range.
44 Lufthansa747 : No, I was talking just general ripofs here like my broadband internet. No option to get it directly, so mine is more expensive than anything I've see
45 Superfly : WOW! I stayed at two different hotels in Bangkok. The Silom City Hotel and the Sawasdee Banglumpoo Inn . Silom City was 2000 THB per night for a suit
46 Levent : 15/9: Thai Airways International has started scheduled domestic flights from Bangkok's new Suvarnabhumi Airport. The first flight was TG8860 to Phitsa
47 Bkkair : 1. The problem is not your apartment. The internet in all of Thailand, including ADSL is slower than dialup except late night/early morning. It's bec
48 Superfly : Quick question. Why are the Internet cafe connection speeds fast in Bangkok? I know it sucks having to leave your home to use the Internet but the ca
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