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User currently offlineGE From Singapore, joined Mar 2000, 320 posts, RR: 6
Posted (15 years 8 months 1 hour ago) and read 2710 times:

Just wondering, do QANTAS and British Airways carry PTVs (or some other kind of entertainment system) on economy class? What do you people think about the QANTAS-BA alliance? Why do some airlines, like QANTAS, use 747-400 planes on short-haul routes like MEL-SYD? Thanks.

Russell Indran

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User currently offlineTullamarine From Australia, joined Aug 1999, 1806 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (15 years 8 months ago) and read 2647 times:

BA has PTVs in all of its classes on their 744s. QF does not have an economy IFES at this stage but has ordered one which will commence to be installed next year.

User currently offlineTrvlr From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 4430 posts, RR: 19
Reply 2, posted (15 years 8 months ago) and read 2630 times:

I am not sure that BA has installed PTVs in coach in all of their 744s. As of July 2000 I know that had not happened.

Aaron G.

User currently offlineJaseWGTN From New Zealand, joined Mar 2000, 828 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (15 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2618 times:

QF as a general rule only use 747-400's domestically between MEL/SYD when it's a through international flight such as SYD/MEL/SIN/LON or the like.

QF sometimes use them on sectors like SYD/CNS or SYD/PER when demand creates. Remember with QF, flights 1 thru 399 are International Flight Number, and 400-999 are Domestic Flight Number.


User currently offlineTim From Australia, joined Jun 2000, 707 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (15 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2583 times:

Qantas are leasing a BA744 (G-BNLH) from November/December to cover the installation of new IFE (In Flight Entertainment) in their 744 aircraft. This IFE upgrade does include PTV's in economy.

Perth, Australia

ICQ - #3008819

User currently offlineMr.BA From Singapore, joined Sep 2000, 3423 posts, RR: 20
Reply 5, posted (15 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2459 times:

Hi guys,

Just to let you know, BA does not have PTVs on all B744s yet. They are installing it fast, very fast.


Boeing747 万岁!
User currently offlineSccutler From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 6063 posts, RR: 26
Reply 6, posted (15 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2382 times:

Glad to hear that QANTAS are installing PTV's in economy; will Air NZ follow suit, ditto: UAL?

While I don't typicaly make travel decisions based upon things like that, on a 15-hour segment, and traveling with a 5-year-old, well- that's a real siginificant distinguishing factor.

Also, if I recall correctly, UA and NZ have in the past had better seat pitch in economy than QF; is this still the case (or was it ever the case- I operate on message-board info only, not always the most reliable!).

Thanks to any and all who know and will spill the beans!

Of course, what I *really* want is QF DFW-SYD non-stop; I could live my whole life without ever setting foot in LAX ever again, and feel real good about it.

...three miles from BRONS, clear for the ILS one five approach...
User currently offlineMegatop747-412 From New Zealand, joined Sep 2000, 275 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (15 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2377 times:

I'm posting specifically to answer Sccutler's question above on Air NZ and UA installing PTVs on economy...

Well, I do no that Air NZ has NOT yet made plans/announce their decision to install PTVs on economy class, hence you're not likely to find them in any of their aircraft in the near future. As for UA, well, I believe UA's Trans-Pacific fleet of B744s do have PTVs in ASOMe of them. What I believe is the B744s that UA used to fly to Aussie/NZ do not come with PTVs, as their competitors plying the same route (QF and NZ) do not have such a facility - hence there not competition here. But I believe their B744s used to fly the North Pacifgic routes to Asia do come with PTVs, e.g. LAX-NRT, where quite a few carriers flying this route (SQ among them) have PTVs in every seat of the plane.

Hence, what I guess, in conclusion, is that such PTVS and aircraft use are determined by market competition. Until perhaps QF and NZ start installing PTVs in every seat, and using them on these route, you may still not see a UA aircraft flying thess routes...

As for BA, well yeah, I believe too that their installing on their B744s, tho maybe not all have been upgraded yet.


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