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Worst Looking 737 In The U.S.: 516AU  
User currently offlineJFKLGANYC From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 3633 posts, RR: 6
Posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 23602 times:

I was walking through security at CMH around 11:30 am on 9/7 and glanced to my left as I was leaving the security checkpoint. There is a large window that affords a nice view of the north side of Concourse B; specifically the US Airways gates.

I was absolutely shocked to see one of the worst-looking 737s flying in the United States today. The fuselage was a conglamerate of peeling paint and dirt. Logos were faded and also peeling.

As a crewmember, I would be nothing short of embarrased. It looked like something straight out of a bad movie set in a third-world country.

As a passenger (assuming they don't know much about FAA standards for maintenance) the appearance of the aircraft would make me downright fearful to board.

The aircraft in question is 516AU belonging to US Airways. Any information from someone working for US about this aircraft would be helpful:

Why would a major airline allow an aircraft with such a bad appearance fly?

Is this aircraft scheduled to be repainted anytime soon?

Does US ever clean their aircraft? How often?

On another note, US is trying to brand itself as a LCC such as jetBlue, AirTran, and Spirit. They fly shiny new planes, which is part of their appeal. While one plane should not represent a company, a plane with an appearance of this caliber should not fly.

PJ

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User currently offlineRikkus67 From Canada, joined Jun 2000, 1684 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 23518 times:


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These photos taken 6 months apart, show a nearly 20 year old plane in desperate need of a repaint... the large white area next to the cockpit window, is where a star alliance sticker has fallen off, for whatever reason. I would assume with the previous state of US Airways, there was little money to keep up the esthetic appearance of many older aircraft. I would assume that the older aircraft will either get repainted, or perhaps, replaced by some E-jets?



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User currently offlineOldeuropean From Germany, joined May 2005, 2091 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 23492 times:

Oh, that really looks terrible.


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User currently offlineAirbusfanYYZ From Canada, joined Oct 2002, 1437 posts, RR: 25
Reply 3, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 23442 times:

My vote goes to N530AU...

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Kaz



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User currently offlineGo3Team From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3267 posts, RR: 16
Reply 4, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 23240 times:

The Hertz plane retired (?) by Ryanair looked worse... Almost looked like a quilt with all of the patches on it.


Yay Pudding!
User currently offlineLitz From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1788 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 22865 times:
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Transport companies, in general, are rather known for letting equipment rot ...

Think about these 737s, AF's general reputation, rustladen freighters (ships), rusty, paint peeling locomotives, etc.

I guess if it's still safe to operate, and gets from point A to point B, they're gonna put appearance on the backburner.

- litz


User currently offlineAsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 22814 times:

Quoting Litz (Reply 5):
paint peeling locomotives

Exactly!  Wink

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=82178
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=111443

[Edited 2006-09-07 23:37:18]

User currently offlineRampRat74 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1547 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 22755 times:

We have many newly painted planes at United that look like that. When you outsource to the lowest bidder. You get what you pay for. You can never match the factory paint jobs from Boeing and Airbus. The last great repaints for us ended when we closed our paint shop at SAMC. We also had some great paint jobs from the Delta Tech-Ops guys in ATL also.

User currently offlineWjcandee From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5368 posts, RR: 22
Reply 8, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 22755 times:

It looks as if both of these aircraft really haven't become much worse in the last two years; it's as if the adhesion of the previous repaint (over the previous buffed-metal livery) wasn't too good and/or they went through some volcanic ash or something at one point, but haven't deteriorated much since. Eventually, they'll have a major service check, and will be repainted at that time.

User currently offlineSAS333 From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 23 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 21897 times:

Guess what, Air France has the same appearance, not pealing...just dirt.

User currently offlineNeednewairport From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 235 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 21760 times:

US is in the process of repainting their entire fleet. Now that summer flying is done the schedule will be boosted and the first 737's in the new paint job are already coming online.

User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 8
Reply 11, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 21688 times:

Thankfully that was not the paint job selected for the new USAirways...can you imagine what the fleet would look like after a Phoenix and Las Vegas summer?

Poor N530AU and N516AU would look like new!!



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User currently offlineFreedom747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 21576 times:

Delta Tech-Ops....finest in the world...(thanks RampRat74)

User currently offlineFL370 From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 252 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 21458 times:

Black color paint chip real easily! my old car was black and it always chipped. but on a plane, i never imagined that.


fl370


User currently offlineFlyingTexan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 21337 times:

Quoting RampRat74 (Reply 7):
You get what you pay for.

Exactly. Just like an el cheapo paint job on a car. Some places forget to roll up the windows.

 splat 


User currently offlineN917ME From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 730 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 20311 times:

I have seen some really nasty 737's from US at PHL. I would be embarrased to fly the "ghetto" aircraft. If the outside is that bad.. what soes the inside look like?

User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 16, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 19608 times:

Quoting RampRat74 (Reply 7):
We have many newly painted planes at United that look like that.

Last I knew the same company was painting for both UAL and US.



"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog"
User currently offlineCO738 From United States of America, joined May 2006, 73 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 19166 times:

Uhh Ohhh better get MAACO! With MAACO's new Ambassador paint system we can have your plane primed and painted in just a few days for just only $295.95! (depending on the aircraft)


If only you could install an air horn on a plane...
User currently offlineAmazonphil From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 561 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 19037 times:

Quoting Oldeuropean (Reply 2):

The raydom on this 737 is almost to the point that it could be illegal. There is a periodic maintenance moisture check on the inside of the dome and with the paint chipped away on the nose here, it could be out of limits. Only a veryyyy minut scratch is permitted on our(CO's) raydomes and when we do the moisture check, it can't go over a certain limit...if it does, has to come off (for overhaul or at least repainted)and be replaced with a fresh one.

Regards



If it ain't Boeing, I ain't goeing!
User currently offlineFlyusairways From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 178 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 18636 times:

Good news! Just saw N530AU last weekend at ORF with all of the worn spots painted over.  Smile
I guess US Airways is trying to make them look a little nicer.
I've sent a picture of it to myaviation--I'll post it as soon as they get it on the site.



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User currently offlineAndrewUber From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2528 posts, RR: 40
Reply 20, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 18349 times:

Ship 530 was definately in bad shape:


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User currently offlineDl_mech From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 1995 posts, RR: 9
Reply 21, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 18302 times:

Every Airline during livery changes gets planes that look like this.
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Quoting RampRat74 (Reply 7):
We also had some great paint jobs from the Delta Tech-Ops guys in ATL also.

The reason they looked so good is that UA's inspectors were very tough. Several planes had sections that were repainted more than once.

In the end,we painted several 741's,742's,744's and one 767, N612UA.



This plane is built to withstand anything... except a bad pilot.
User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 22, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 18137 times:

Quoting Dl_mech (Reply 21):
Every Airline during livery changes gets planes that look like this.

Yea, I was going to add... don't just jump on US. I've seen some sad look Delta planes as well. There was a thread running last year about 'The Spirit of Delta'. She was looking really sad before getting the new livery...after the special Olympics scheme. Huge sections of missing paint.



"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog"
User currently offlinePlanenutzTB From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 256 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 17772 times:

I understand the financial crunch at many airlines, but the condition of these planes sends a bad message to the flying public about aircraft maintenance. If an aircraft looks like it has poor maintenance, it may scare passengers from feeling safe flying on them.

It's similar to a dirty restaurant; do I gamble on getting food poisoning eating in one?



I am extraordinarily patient, provided I get my own way in the end.
User currently offlineUSADreamliner From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 17162 times:

Well, we found some candidates for extreme makeover!


usadreamliner


25 Post contains links and images AviatorTJ : When I was up on N441US, it wasn't looking its best. On the inside, the old style interior was made up for with TOP NOTCH service. Besides, outside ap
26 JBLUA320 : Despite the fact that some US Airways planes are sort of dodgy on the outside, I've never experienced anything less than excellence from the crews ins
27 Post contains images Cubsrule : I wonder if there was a batch of bad repaints during heavy checks at some point. Have a look at N532AU: (For the record, this repaint was done between
28 Post contains images Eirjet : Maybe it is planned for the new paint scheme - Other than that if the plane is in sound operating condition and meets all required standards there's
29 Post contains images Flyguy595 : Well I think AA has theme beat theres hardly ever any paint on their planes.
30 PlanesNTrains : " target=_blank>http://www.railpictures.net/viewphot...11443 Those Santa Fe warbonnet GE's really looked like crap after a while. I have a photo of on
31 Azul320 : Not too bad for an airline that went through two bankruptcies recently and is still around. I reckon the paint on those Independence jets is still fre
32 Jasond : Fair point, I can tolerate a dirty aircraft if I know the maintenance is top notch and there is the old expression "Never judge a book by its cover".
33 Post contains images BlazingCessna : The US Scareways 734's I flew on in May had that just out of storage in the desert smell to them. Hell the one I flew from CLT-BNA had some interior t
34 N270ft : just as bad lol, the last one I went on you could see dowin into the cargo hold. The airbus's are generally nicer though. AW
35 DMAJ7TH : i just joined a.net not that long ago. this represents one of these real interesting threads that you guys start. i love it! when i was very young my
36 Soon7x7 : A while back US Airways tried waterborne paint when the new fleet colors arrived.The paint was not compatible with the primer used and the result was
37 DeltaDC9 : Totally off topic, but I have noticed that a great number of Santa Fe (No I cant yet call them BNSF) locos have AC units with different paint scemes
38 JFKLGANYC : "A while back US Airways tried waterborne paint when the new fleet colors arrived.The paint was not compatible with the primer used and the result was
39 AirlineBrat : Looks like some of the Orient Thai 747's I spotted while I was at BKK.
40 Flyboyaz : I'm excited to see what the 737's will look like in the new scheme. HP 737's will be the first ones to get the new paint job...but the old US planes w
41 Post contains links and images OPNLguy : For a short, very short period of time (the duration of two flights SAT-LAX and LAX-PAE) this one was probably the ugliest... View Large View MediumPh
42 Jetdeltamsy : What a ridiculous comment. That aircraft is no less airworthy than the newest planes in their fleet.
43 KELPkid : This happened after the Santa Fe switched to a more environmentally friendly paint on later Warbonnet deliveries...I believe they used DuPont Imron p
44 Remcor : I think his point was that for that average person the paint is an indication of how well they maintain their aircraft. If you see a car with a crapp
45 CruzinAltitude : Yup, Still damn ugly
46 Post contains images KELPkid : It looked like you guys had "Silver Two" in the making...by the way, I've noticed Silver One (when I've been a pax on it) is painted sort of a greyis
47 OPNLguy : IIRC, it was discovered that the bare metallic finish was more costly to keep up, hence the change over to paint. Got to save $$$ where you can... BT
48 KELPkid : Were there MX issues with the aircraft as well? I wouldn't think a lack of paint would restrict you to non-pressurized altitudes...
49 Post contains images OPNLguy : Yes. They do more than paint jobs at PAE....
50 DAYflyer : Some people without much aviation knoweledge (read as the general flying public) see a bad paint job as a sign of shoddy mx.
51 Richierich : If I recall correctly, didn't JetBlue put a "green" airplane into commercial service for a short time? I believe it was typical of unpainted aircraft
52 EMBQA : So if someone had a dirty front yard, an unpainted house and a broken down car out front what do you think the chances are the inside of the house lo
53 Post contains links Flyusairways : Here's N530AU last week. http://myaviation.net/photos/small/1/2/4/00832421.jpg
54 Post contains images SlimChance : SO? S7 has lots of green airplanes, and they look pretty good.
55 Dan2002 : No, i'm pretty sure you couldn't, because the cabins are pressurized, but the cargo holds aren't (correct me if i'm wrong).
56 JFKLGANYC : "Quoting JFKLGANYC (Thread starter): As a passenger (assuming they don't know much about FAA standards for maintenance) the appearance of the aircraft
57 Jetdeltamsy : Does that mean the house is more prone to burning down from poor maintenance? Of course not.
58 N231YE : Which reminds me, I hate WN's new colors, simply because of the fact that the freshly painted shiny blue fades quickly, and when patched, looks like
59 DILF : I'm no great fan of USAirways, but in their defense, I have seen a number of other carriers with either fading/peeling paint . . . or, to me even wors
60 Antoniemey : On most planes I believe the bins are pressurized, but they AREN'T heated, except for whichever one is designated for live animals, when applicable.
61 Post contains images KELPkid : Kind of like the infamous Boeing 757 window shades installed in N665WN...if you ever sit in in Row 10 or thereabouts on this bird, look at the window
62 Bennett123 : Jetdeltamsy I would wonder about MX including wiring. So my answer is yes.
63 EMBQA : It's means if you take pride in what you do and who you are you show it. If you don't...the same happens the other way too.....
64 B757capt : I do have to agree Delta Tech Ops does a great job with the paint.
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