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YX, Who Else Is In The Running  
User currently offlineATWZW170 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 904 posts, RR: 3
Posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 3528 times:

Ok, so we know AWAC went onto the 2nd round of talks with YX...who is the other carrier?

Thanks.


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User currently offlineKnope2001 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2817 posts, RR: 30
Reply 1, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 3473 times:

Out of curiosity, how do we know this?

User currently offlineATWZW170 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 904 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 3461 times:

It was in a company email and announced to everyone in the crewroom - so, who in the world is the other company in the running?


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User currently offlineSideflare75 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 613 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 3422 times:

No word that I have heard around YX.

User currently offlineKnope2001 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2817 posts, RR: 30
Reply 4, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 3419 times:

Ahh, thanks for the info. Glad to hear that ZW is well in the running.

User currently offlineFutureFO From Ireland, joined Oct 2001, 3132 posts, RR: 22
Reply 5, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 3376 times:

Possibly XJT. They were the other ones that put in on it. And who knows maybe even YV.


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User currently offlineATWZW170 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 904 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 3281 times:

If it was either of those companies don't you think their employee's would not only know but tell everyone....it's odd that no one else is talking. And there is no way YV is in the running - YX wants reliable operations and good service - that's not YV.


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User currently offlineSwadispatcher From United States of America, joined May 2004, 427 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3149 times:

I've heard from pretty reliable sources that it's XJT...


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User currently offlineMariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 24635 posts, RR: 86
Reply 8, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3145 times:
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Quoting Knope2001 (Reply 4):
Glad to hear that ZW is well in the running.

In the running for - what?

Express service? I thought Midwest did that themselves with Midwest Connect.

???

mariner



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User currently offlineATWZW170 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 904 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3137 times:

What is your source? If it is XJT then fine - but is there any way to confirm?

Anyworking for XJT can say for sure.



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User currently offlineSwadispatcher From United States of America, joined May 2004, 427 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3130 times:

Quoting Mariner (Reply 8):
In the running for - what?
Express service? I thought Midwest did that themselves with Midwest Connect.

Yes.. using some or all of their 69 airplanes they are leasing from CO.

Quoting ATWZW170 (Reply 9):
What is your source? If it is XJT then fine - but is there any way to confirm?

I have several friends that fly over there.. and I heard it on their Employee infoline..



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User currently offlineATWZW170 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 904 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 3088 times:

So why aren't any of their employee's talking?


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User currently offlineBurnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7503 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 3086 times:

Quoting Swadispatcher (Reply 7):
I've heard from pretty reliable sources that it's XJT...

XJT, if your talking XJ, with what planes, NW ownes all their planes. Minus some saabs which are NW dedicated.



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User currently offlineGeg2rap From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 847 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 3075 times:

xjt- expressjet not mesaba
mesaba will have a hard time being taken serious with their labor problems


User currently offlineCheckraiser From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 3075 times:

What is XJT? An offshoot of Mesaba?

User currently offlineGeg2rap From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 847 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 3044 times:

xjt is an offshoot of co expressjet their call sign is jetlink I think

User currently offlineKnope2001 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2817 posts, RR: 30
Reply 16, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 3037 times:

Quoting Mariner (Reply 8):
Glad to hear that ZW is well in the running.

In the running for - what?

Express service? I thought Midwest did that themselves with Midwest Connect.

mariner

Midwest stated in a press release several weeks ago that they would add 50-seat RJ's to the YX* system. While they were considering acquiring them for the in-house Skyway operation, they were also put out an RFP to third parties to fly this for them.

I'm not positive they've ruled out flying the 50-seat RJ's themselves, but it's generally assumed that they will contract with someone else to provide it for several reasons:

--It will be much faster to get 50-seat RJ's into service by hiring someone like Air Wisconsin, ExpressJet, Mesa, etc, than acquring 50-seaters for Skyway. They can use more RJ's ASAP. Some FRJ markets can definitely use more seats, and as the last BE1 go those routes will largely be backfilled with FRJ's. And that's just Milwaukee. Kansas City has several potential markets ripe for RJs.

--Start-up costs would be much higher for them to acquire and support a whole new type within Skyway than outsourcing for the lift.

--Midwest's resources for acquring new aircraft are hardly unlimited, and they are probably better of focusing those resources on M80 replacements.

--Outsourcing allows more flexibility than buying, and with the evolving and potentially questionable economics of smaller RJ's, this might not be the right time to put all their eggs in this basket. If a few years down the road it's clear they really need 25 RJ's or 5 RJ's or 0 RJ's, that easier to do if it is outsourced.

It's believed a decision will come before year-end, perhaps well before year-end. It sounds like AWAC is down to the final round.

I wonder if the other airline here in the final round competing with Air Wisconsin for the 50-seat YX Rj's is perhaps Skyway? I personally think they're better off outsourcing this, but has this ever really been ruled out?


User currently offlineMariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 24635 posts, RR: 86
Reply 17, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 3029 times:
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Quoting Knope2001 (Reply 16):
Midwest stated in a press release several weeks ago that they would add 50-seat RJ's to the YX* system.

Thanks, Knope.  Smile

cheers

mariner



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