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Boeing 747 LCF Achieves First Flight  
User currently offlineGreaser From Bahamas, joined Jan 2004, 1101 posts, RR: 4
Posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 10013 times:

Another milestone for the venerable 747



"TAIPEI, Sept. 09, 2006 -- The Boeing [NYSE: BA] 747-400 Large Cargo Freighter took to the skies for the first time at 10:38 a.m. (UTC/GMT +8 hours) today, initiating the flight test program that will culminate in U.S. Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) certification.
The two-hour, four-minute flight was the first of 250 expected flight test hours for the unique freighter, a specially modified 747-400 that will transport major composite structures of the all-new 787 Dreamliner.
The enormous jet -- with its enlarged upper fuselage that can accommodate three times the cargo by volume of a standard 747-400 freighter -- gracefully took off under rainy skies from Taiwan Taoyuan International Airport (formerly Chiang Kai-Shek International Airport). Boeing flight test pilots, Capts. Joe MacDonald and Randy Wyatt, took the airplane north, and then flew roughly 150 miles south following along the east side of the island before heading north again."





"After completing initial flight tests in Taiwan, during which the airplane's handling characteristics will be evaluated as well as ensuring the LCF is free from flutter and excessive vibration, the airplane will fly to Seattle's Boeing Field to complete the remainder of the flight test program. The ferry flight to Seattle is expected to occur mid-month. A fleet of three LCFs will ferry 787 assemblies between Nagoya, Japan; Grottaglie, Italy; Wichita, Kan. and Charleston, S.C., before flying them to the Boeing factory in Everett, Wash., for final assembly. The first two LCFs will enter service in early 2007; the third will follow later."

Images, text courtesy Boeing.com


Now you're really flying
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User currently offlineDangould2000 From UK - Scotland, joined Dec 2005, 172 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 10004 times:

wow, in those angles, the 744LCF actually looks quite nice,


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User currently offlineJrosa From Brazil, joined Jun 2005, 367 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 9992 times:

It is great to see that such an ugly aircraft is capable of flying!

Congrats Boeing and here comes the 787, the "Airbuster".


User currently offlineFriendlySkies From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 4108 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 9826 times:

"It's not a tuuuumor"

Haha good to see it flying, hope it gets some paint soon!


User currently offlineAvObserver From United States of America, joined Apr 2002, 2472 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 9743 times:

Quoting Dangould2000 (Reply 1):
wow, in those angles, the 744LCF actually looks quite nice

When did you last visit your eye doctor? There's no angle at which this airgoing pig would look good; it's almost amazing it even flies, albeit with an utter lack of grace. Still, it will be a major asset for BCA, like the Beluga is for Airbus, so I guess I shouldn't dwell on how horrendous its appearance is. It's almost shocking to remember this was once a gorgeous -400.


User currently offlineCalags From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 47 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 9710 times:

Quoting AvObserver (Reply 4):
When did you last visit your eye doctor? There's no angle at which this airgoing pig would look good; it's almost amazing it even flies, albeit with an utter lack of grace.

I'm not worried - I'm sure it'll grow on me. When I first saw the Beluga I thought it was the ugliest thing flying too but now it holds a special appeal to me.

I'm curious if the livery they finally select for it would make any special use of the double hump.


User currently offlinePPVRA From Brazil, joined Nov 2004, 8969 posts, RR: 39
Reply 6, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 9677 times:

Quoting Dangould2000 (Reply 1):
wow, in those angles, the 744LCF actually looks quite nice,

I agree. It looks better than I thoguht it would. Quite nice and interesting, IMHO.



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User currently offlineKeesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 9626 times:

Its ugly, but who cares

great to see it fly

happy landings hotdog


User currently offlineLeelaw From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 9532 times:

There's a link to a video clip at the bottom left of Boeing's News Release:

http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/2006/q3/060909a_nr.html


User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21544 posts, RR: 59
Reply 9, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 9488 times:

It's like a 747 wearing a big fur coat!

I bet you put it into a flattering livery, and it won't look that bad...



Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12158 posts, RR: 51
Reply 10, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 9309 times:

Quoting Greaser (Thread starter):
The first two LCFs will enter service in early 2007; the third will follow later."

Hmmmm.  banghead 

Congradulations to EVA and Boeing, and the B-747-400LCF


User currently offlineRyanairCRL From France, joined Dec 2005, 190 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 9164 times:

2 questions :

after looking at the video, why does the pilot keep the gears out that long ? don't pilots bring them up earlier usually ?

are the test pilots locals (Japanese) or from Boeing ?



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User currently offlineDw747400 From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 1260 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 8951 times:

Quoting RyanairCRL (Reply 11):
after looking at the video, why does the pilot keep the gears out that long ? don't pilots bring them up earlier usually ?

This is fairly typical of early flight testing. Why worry about more ssytems at a critical moment than you need too?

Quoting RyanairCRL (Reply 11):
are the test pilots locals (Japanese) or from Boeing ?

The press release states: "Boeing flight test pilots, Capts. Joe MacDonald and Randy Wyatt"



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User currently offlineNRA-3B From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 167 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 8856 times:

Quoting RyanairCRL (Reply 11):
are the test pilots locals (Japanese) or from Boeing ?

Last time I checked, Taiwan hasn't been part of Japan since 1945.  Big grin


User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 60
Reply 14, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 8668 times:

Amazing video..but the guy taking the video (or whoever it was) needs to stop coughing... biggrin 


"Up the Irons!"
User currently offlineJoeCattoli From Italy, joined Aug 2005, 569 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 6 days ago) and read 8306 times:

In the video this aircraft looks uglier than on pictures... Exactly the opposite of the WhaleJet... Anyway congratulation to Evergreen Boeing and the 787 program.
Hope it'll look better once painted.

Ciao
Joe


User currently offlineMnik101 From United States of America, joined May 2006, 173 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 6 days ago) and read 8259 times:

Quoting Jrosa (Reply 2):
t is great to see that such an ugly aircraft is capable of flying!



Quoting FriendlySkies (Reply 3):
"It's not a tuuuumor"



Quoting AvObserver (Reply 4):

When did you last visit your eye doctor? There's no angle at which this airgoing pig would look good; it's almost amazing it even flies, albeit with an utter lack of grace.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.


User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5790 posts, RR: 47
Reply 17, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 6 days ago) and read 8259 times:

Congrats to Boeing but will someone PLEASE give it a coat of paint!!!! Even Euro-white will do!


That which does not kill me makes me stronger.
User currently offlineJewPilot From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 110 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 8115 times:

That thing's a beast!! Could use some paint though.


Go Sioux!
User currently offlineBaron95 From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1335 posts, RR: 8
Reply 19, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 7582 times:

I have a question, maybe someone can help.

It's often said that the overnight package carriers need volume much more than weight carrying capacity. So the UPS and FEDex have ordered 10 (I believe) A380Fs each.

My question is, Wouldn't something like the 747 LCF be the ticked for these guys?



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User currently offlineAloha717200 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4515 posts, RR: 15
Reply 20, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 7387 times:

Quoting Baron95 (Reply 19):
My question is, Wouldn't something like the 747 LCF be the ticked for these guys?

I dont believe Boeing is offering the LCF for sale.


User currently offlineLostmoon744 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 176 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 7292 times:

Quoting NRA-3B (Reply 13):
Last time I checked, Taiwan hasn't been part of Japan since 1945

OMG. LOL.

When the Airbus Beluga came out, people then were saying it was ugly. But, like the other poster said, beauty is in the eyes of the beholder, indeed. It's not a beauty contest afterall. As long as it flies and gets the job done, go for it.


User currently offlineFe727 From Canada, joined Sep 2006, 6 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 7256 times:

Almost as ugly as the A380. almost

User currently offlineMalmoaviation From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 385 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 6968 times:

It's a bit ugly, but still very cool. Get it in a nice color (Boeing house colors?) and you will have a great photo-object.  Smile

User currently offlineGeo772 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 519 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 6324 times:

Quoting Aloha717200 (Reply 20):
Quoting Baron95 (Reply 19):
My question is, Wouldn't something like the 747 LCF be the ticked for these guys?

I dont believe Boeing is offering the LCF for sale.

If any carrier asked Boeing for some of these I'm sure they would oblige. After all the design work and certification work will have been done. However I would have thought it highly unlikely that anyone would order some. It would be very expensive as well I reckon.



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25 Starlionblue : Note: I am just speculating below. As Geo772 says, Boeing would probably do it if the customer asked. However, there is the issue of no pressurized c
26 Post contains images OyKIE : IMHO Because of it's length it looks much better than the Beluga which I believe is to short and therefore seems fatter.
27 Post contains images Teixeim : If they put two or three flooring decks inside and loaded 'em with seats, its an instant Airbus A380-buster! That thing's gotta be capable of carrying
28 Starlionblue : I realize your comments are in jest. But realize that the cargo hold is unpressurized. Also, the aircraft would not be able to carry the weight of so
29 OldAeroGuy : Has the USA lost pride of place for "World's Worst Geography/History Education"?
30 Post contains images ER757 : Can't wait - I'll definitely be there. camera in hand. Hopefully it'll be painted by then
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